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What is CDPR's Stance on Discard Abuse by Letting the Timer Run Out?

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  • What is CDPR's Stance on Discard Abuse by Letting the Timer Run Out?

    I would like to see a clear answer on the matter. Is this a part of the game and an acceptable strategy? And if it isn't, how are the devs planning to address this issue?

    In Gwent, roping is waiting until you almost timed out and then playing a card (and slow-rolling is playing all the cards after the opponent passed).

    EDIT.
    I am talking about not playing a card on your turn.
    Last edited by HenryGrosmont; 25-07-17, 19:17.
    Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I still get to kill something.

  • #2
    No idea. I did hear never playing Dagon or Dwarf decks makes the issue vanish though. From a reliable source, of course.

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    • #3
      It is part of the game I would say, I mean time on your turn is yours and you can do what ever you want with it. Morally it is unacceptable but there is no way
      to address this issue.

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      • #4
        It's part of the game. More importantly, how would you be able to fix this? There is a reason for having a timer in the first place. If you would implement some magical anti-roping mechanic, then you are just undermining your own set of rules.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Restlessdingo32 View Post
          No idea. I did hear never playing Dagon or Dwarf decks makes the issue vanish though. From a reliable source, of course.
          Originally posted by lomvicmarko View Post
          It is part of the game I would say, I mean time on your turn is yours and you can do what ever you want with it. Morally it is unacceptable but there is no way
          to address this issue.
          Originally posted by 4RM3D View Post
          It's part of the game. More importantly, how would you be able to fix this? There is a reason for having a timer in the first place. If you would implement some magical anti-roping mechanic, then you are just undermining your own set of rules.
          If I recall it right, Rethas or other dev once said that it isn't a part of the game. Maybe it has changed since then, who knows...

          The solution is simple - pass.
          Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I still get to kill something.

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          • #6
            The timer is way to long in my opinion, you shouldnt have more than 15 seconds overall to play your turn, never understood people take a long time to play, and honestly its enraging.

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            • #7
              Timer is fine, when match is good i really need that bit of extra time to do my turn.

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              • #8
                It might not seem relevant in the current meta, since it's just rather easy tempo plays , but the timer seems fine to me. I've only had one roping game today and i'm pretty sure it was because of the bad connection the other guy had or something.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mau_91 View Post
                  The timer is way to long in my opinion, you shouldnt have more than 15 seconds overall to play your turn, never understood people take a long time to play, and honestly its enraging.
                  Originally posted by lomvicmarko View Post
                  Timer is fine, when match is good i really need that bit of extra time to do my turn.
                  Originally posted by rctboy95 View Post
                  It might not seem relevant in the current meta, since it's just rather easy tempo plays , but the timer seems fine to me. I've only had one roping game today and i'm pretty sure it was because of the bad connection the other guy had or something.
                  Timer is fine. I am not talking about using the time to the fullest. I am talking about deliberately not playing a card on your turn.
                  Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I still get to kill something.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HenryGrosmont View Post
                    Timer is fine. I am not talking about using the time to the fullest. I am talking about deliberately not playing a card on your turn.
                    Wait, are you talking about the mechanic that when you don't play a card, one is discarded at random from your hand? Because if you are, then that really has nothing to do with roping. Roping is just to way to get to discarding a random card.

                    If you aren't talking about that, then how can you tell the difference between players who wait the whole time on purpose and those that really need all the time to think about the best move?

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                    • #11
                      Match chat would make it more acceptable if I get no reply on why person is roping then I can at least provoke and have some fun while waiting for timer lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HenryGrosmont View Post




                        Timer is fine. I am not talking about using the time to the fullest. I am talking about deliberately not playing a card on your turn.
                        Eventually the game will play a random card for you so i don't see why someone would do that unless they aren't there or just want to annoy the opponent ( for whatever reason ).

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                        • #13
                          two patches ago when weather was still oppressive I was in a situation where my last card was scorch an the opponent already passed. the problem was that i just needed to get some more points from my ongoing weather to win the game but my scorch would hit my own unit since it was the highest one.

                          so the only way to win the match would be to not play scorch till the rope goes off to get some points off the enemy from the weather.

                          imo
                          as long as we can not choose to not play a card to make the round go on this kind of roping is a valid strategy

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                          • #14
                            Lately I am meeting a bunch of those f#k%rs. It is really annoying and time wasting.

                            Or guys that I KNOW they have, like, Bloody Baron to play and wait for at least 30 seconds to do so or a 2 STR card and they are behind with like 20 points behind.

                            Or guys that "lose connection" just before they get obliterated.


                            No GG is ever given to such individuals.

                            I would give them BG and punish them with -5 something.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rctboy95 View Post

                              Eventually the game will play a random card for you so i don't see why someone would do that unless they aren't there or just want to annoy the opponent ( for whatever reason ).
                              That would be probably the best solution. That or pass.
                              Originally posted by Staluev View Post
                              two patches ago when weather was still oppressive I was in a situation where my last card was scorch an the opponent already passed. the problem was that i just needed to get some more points from my ongoing weather to win the game but my scorch would hit my own unit since it was the highest one.

                              so the only way to win the match would be to not play scorch till the rope goes off to get some points off the enemy from the weather.

                              imo
                              as long as we can not choose to not play a card to make the round go on this kind of roping is a valid strategy
                              The game is: both players play a card on their turn or pass. There isn't an option to "skip".
                              If you decide to pass instead of playing your last card, it's fine. If you're roping just to skip your turn and be able to play after that in the same round, it's abusing a flaw in the game.
                              Also, Skellige can directly benefit form it twice. First by abusing, second by discarding. And given its res abilities, the faction could benefit from it three times.
                              Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I still get to kill something.

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