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  • Dol blathanna swordmaster

    This card looks very unrestricted. From what i can see he can target golds and doesn't have any dmg limit like assassin or bekker. I see no reason why he couldn't kill things like unseen elder or tibor in single shot. Is he really such powerful as bronze or maybe I overlooked some kind of important detail?

  • #2
    Um no... the swordmaster damages an enemy by whatever the swordmaster's current power is. It won't kill Tibor unless it the swordmaster's strength was 25.

    "Up and at 'em, lazy mingers! Ye'll sleep when ye're dead!"

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    • #3
      The card (bronze) can, and does, provide a bigger swing than BTM (silver). Card design and balance at its finest.

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      • #4
        It is not that great as you suggest it is ( at least no deck so far makes good use of that card ).
        You need other cards to boost it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by quantum_number View Post
          The card (bronze) can, and does, provide a bigger swing than BTM (silver). Card design and balance at its finest.
          Came to check the patch out after taking a extended break from the game due to CDPR's awful balancing.

          Glad to see their still terrible at designing and balancing cards. Who doesnt love 1 strength spies and bronzes that outperform silvers?
          Last edited by Zjiin; 01-11-17, 02:16.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by quantum_number View Post
            The card (bronze) can, and does, provide a bigger swing than BTM (silver). Card design and balance at its finest.
            Not on its own. You need to buff the Swordsmaster first.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by quantum_number View Post
              The card (bronze) can, and does, provide a bigger swing than BTM (silver). Card design and balance at its finest.
              Unless you have a dozen cards that buffs it first, the swing it provides is 8.

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              • #8
                It is rather obvious that other cards need to be played, so I don't know why that is being pointed out. BTM needs cards as well. The Dun Banner Heavy Cavalry, a card that led to the nerfing of a bunch of other cards, provided a swing of 8 on its own, except no one played it on its own.

                In any case, the cards that boost the swordmaster provide bodies, with elf tags to boot. These cards don't just disappear after they've been played, they become parts of other combos.

                Time (or Swim) will tell if it's a great, good, bad or meh card. However it turns out, BTM, a silver, will still be worse. The devs said they wanted silvers reigned in, then made bronzes that outperform them. I find this ...weird, to say the least.
                Last edited by quantum_number; 01-11-17, 02:56.

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                • #9
                  With a buff from a Hawker Support it provides a 14 point swing with a proper target - with a removal not to forget. Against a neutral Silver providing up to 20(BTM), without having slow played cards before. A Swordmaster Buff slows you down heavily - especially in the current state of the game. The plays that lead into your BTM - mostlikely at least - are tempo plays themselves; An Ifrit, Woodlandspirit, for example. One can argue that Woodlandspirit got a lot slower with the Harpy nerf.
                  Last edited by TV_JayArr; 01-11-17, 16:47. Reason: Corrected a card confusion. Thanks to @HTMekkatorque .

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                  • #10
                    In my honest opinion, Dol Blathanna Swordmaster currently too powerful. Imagine combo with Hawker Support, Quen Sign. Yes, you have those low tempo plays to set it up but when you do, you have a bronze card having 20+ value almost everytime, in addition, it's a card removal.

                    At least limit its damage by 10 or only damage bronze and silver.

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                    • #11
                      It is quite powerful for a bronze, lets put hawker supporters aside, because I think thats what you were refering to rather than "Hawker Smuggler". But with the new buff to iorveth which seemed needed but also vrihedd dragoons and vrihedd vangards, I don't think you even need to make this a core part of your strategy, they'll simply get boosted without much effort. But... You probably might even want to use hawker supporters on hatori and in this case you can revive the swordmaster, lets assume its a 12-16 power swing at the given time, then you decoy your hatori for another 15-19 strength, yeah we are going to see some swordmaster decks for sure.

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                      • #12
                        KDean11

                        ​​​​​​​Quick to complain, are we? Anyhow, Swordmaster requires a few cards or a longer round to become strong. Same can be said for a lot of units, like Protectors. The handbuff archetype was non-existent before. Now they at least have a good bronze core card. Beyond that, they have little else to synergize with. So, all in all, the Swordmaster is a pretty fair card.
                        Last edited by 4RM3D; 01-11-17, 12:19.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zjiin View Post

                          Came to check the patch out after taking a extended break from the game due to CDPR's awful balancing.

                          Glad to see their still terrible at designing and balancing cards. Who doesnt love 1 strength spies and bronzes that outperform silvers?
                          The salt is strong in this one
                          Francesca says: "Squeez me ivelya".
                          Any chance that "ivelya" is the ancient elven word for "breasts"?!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 4RM3D View Post
                            KDean11

                            Quick to complain, are we? Anyhow, Swordmaster requires a few cards or a longer round to become strong. Same can be said for a lot of units, like Protectors. The handbuff archetype was non-existent before. Now they at least have a good bronze core card. Beyond that, they have little else to synergize with. So, all in all, the Swordmaster is a pretty fair card.
                            Well I guess you're right that handbuff archetype deck doesn't have a good bronze core and this solves it. Anyway it's not more of a complaint but my opinion on the new card. But i like the card addition in general. I will try to build a deck around it.

                            For what it's worth, i wrote that one after i lost to an opponent with 20 power DB swordmaster.

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                            • #15
                              DB Swordmaster buffed by Hawker Support is 20 points max (counting Hawker Support).
                              2x plain and simple Nilfgardiaan Knight is 22 points, + they have armor.
                              I can't really see how swordmasters are broken, you need to build the whole deck around them with a lot of low tempo plays.

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