Sex, Nudity, Discussion of Same - the Whole Ball of Wax.

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The best sex scene in game is..

  • A third person sex scene like in The Witcher, Dragon Age

    Votes: 136 26.9%
  • A third person sex scene with quick time event system like in Mass Effect series

    Votes: 19 3.8%
  • A sex scene as a mini game

    Votes: 13 2.6%
  • A first person perspective view (POV) sex scene where you see a close-up full frontal nudity

    Votes: 62 12.3%
  • PG 13 romance scene only

    Votes: 8 1.6%
  • Full XXX P0RN, censor nothing

    Votes: 172 34.1%
  • A mix of everything, depending on the parther you chooses or the situation you are in

    Votes: 71 14.1%
  • Fades to black

    Votes: 24 4.8%

  • Total voters
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I mean, they literally can't go there if they want to make enough money to justify the production costs. I really don't understand why they even included that as an option.

I'd assume that some people equate sex with intimacy. The more sex you see, the more intimate and sincere the relationship. Obviously that's not true, but some people will still follow the doctrine.

I wouldn't mind a sex scene like in Mass Effect 1 for a romantic scene. Since the Cyber-Punk theme has a backdrop of sex, I think one-night stands and prostitution would be in there. If that's the case, the scene should be more violent, lacking any sort of affection between the people involved and really shows that it's just a physical need being sated.
 
Yep, think the same. It's not about fighting, at least for me. I know maybe I don't explain me very well some times, but allways had intention to civil discuss. And Sardukhar is right, I don't know what is strawman :ROFLMAO:

yeah like, I don't think anyone's mad here, I feel like it's been quite civil between @Snowflakez and I and You and I are having a language barrier more than anything I feel.

I'm not trying to rile anyone up here.
 
I'd assume that some people equate sex with intimacy. The more sex you see, the more intimate and sincere the relationship. Obviously that's not true, but some people will still follow the doctrine.

I wouldn't mind a sex scene like in Mass Effect 1 for a romantic scene. Since the Cyber-Punk theme has a backdrop of sex, I think one-night stands and prostitution would be in there. If that's the case, the scene should be more violent, lacking any sort of affection between the people involved and really shows that it's just a physical need being sated.
I mean that's fair its just that, we know they can only go so far. We already know what the limitations are for the various rating systems around the world. We know we can have full nudity, we know we can have sex scenes, but we also know that we can't go full hardcore because then you get into AO territory and that just isn't going to reach the audience CD Projekt NEEDS to. It's like asking why a Hollywood movie can't have explicit penetration. They can go up to a certain point and maintain an R rating, which is commercially viable. But if they go beyond and release an unrated movie, most theatres (analogous to retailers here) will not carry the film so you're not going to make back however many millions you spent on it. and in a 40-50 million dollar game, that's just not something anyone's going to risk, ever.
 
I mean that's fair its just that, we know they can only go so far. We already know what the limitations are for the various rating systems around the world. We know we can have full nudity, we know we can have sex scenes, but we also know that we can't go full hardcore because then you get into AO territory and that just isn't going to reach the audience CD Projekt NEEDS to. It's like asking why a Hollywood movie can't have explicit penetration. They can go up to a certain point and maintain an R rating, which is commercially viable. But if they go beyond and release an unrated movie, most theatres (analogous to retailers here) will not carry the film so you're not going to make back however many millions you spent on it. and in a 40-50 million dollar game, that's just not something anyone's going to risk, ever.

I think we're arguing the same point. I don't want XXX-type sex scenes. I don't want sex scenes just so there can be sex scenes. What I'm saying is that if romantic scenes are similar to Mass Effect 1, then prostitution scenes would be like Jack's Renegade sex scene in Mass Effect 2, sans clothing. Nothing really shown below the waist, but still showing the violent and pleasure oriented sex.

I get the feeling full frontal nudity will be saved for strip clubs in the game, as I'm sure it'll have those.
 
I'm not telling you how to do your job, but this thread is far from a thread that has been derailed. There can be plenty of slack on the leash. You guys generally are proactive about when things go south.

Yes, this is us being proactive. We've had multiple reports from this thread. Because you don't -see- something doesn't mean we didn't get to it.

I'm glad to see things are civilized. Everyone is friends here, fans of a game to be.
 
What I'm saying is that if romantic scenes are similar to Mass Effect 1, then prostitution scenes would be like Jack's Renegade sex scene in Mass Effect 2, sans clothing. Nothing really shown below the waist, but still showing the violent and pleasure oriented sex.
That's more in line with what I'm hoping for in CP2077 as well.
Causal Sex should be causal but real relationships should have the really steamy stuff.

The worry I have is that the casual one night stands becoming pointless or boring after the first 1 or 2 flings if their animations/scenes are just the same over and over.
In Witcher 2 when you go for the whores, their scenes are varied and pretty darn hot, in Witcher 3 they're exactly the same as the first girl.

In Cyberpunk I want the one night stand scenes to be more like Witcher 2 and they could have some aggressive stuff as well as some scenes in the bed, maybe some shower scenes and such, but none of them being as steamy as the real relatonships.

Something I also really dislike about relationships in most RPGs is once the relationship is done, that's it, it's over, you can't go back and spend time with your significant other, whether it be for some more sex or just hanging out with them, I hope CP2077 addresses that as well.

Not asking for full XXX porn or anything here, I just don't want Witcher 3's same scenes over and over again.
 
That's more in line with what I'm hoping for in CP2077 as well.
Causal Sex should be causal but real relationships should have the really steamy stuff.

The worry I have is that the casual one night stands becoming pointless or boring after the first 1 or 2 flings if their animations/scenes are just the same over and over.
In Witcher 2 when you go for the whores, their scenes are varied and pretty darn hot, in Witcher 3 they're exactly the same as the first girl.

(I can assure you that most casual encounters become stale in real life as well. In my honest opinion, I believe CDPR should spend their resources elsewhere rather than making several scenes that most people are only interested in seeing once or twice).

In Cyberpunk I want the one night stand scenes to be more like Witcher 2 and they could have some aggressive stuff as well as some scenes in the bed, maybe some shower scenes and such, but none of them being as steamy as the real relatonships.

(I can agree with this. Maybe cut the shower scene after casual encounters. Generally you want to get out of there as quick as possible after sex. Leave shower scenes for romance scenes).

Something I also really dislike about relationships in most RPGs is once the relationship is done, that's it, it's over, you can't go back and spend time with your significant other, whether it be for some more sex or just hanging out with them, I hope CP2077 addresses that as well.

(YES! Let us continue the relationship after the "ultimate" scene in the romance. Let us have sex with our partner. Let us continue conversations that won't lead to sex, but a deeper and more fulfilling relationship).

Not asking for full XXX porn or anything here, I just don't want Witcher 3's same scenes over and over again.
 
(I can assure you that most casual encounters become stale in real life as well. In my honest opinion, I believe CDPR should spend their resources elsewhere rather than making several scenes that most people are only interested in seeing once or twice).
Believe me I know, but if we're gonna be playing through the game as multiple V's and exploring the game's many branching narratives then the one night stand activity shouldn't be something that becomes stale and boring before you even get 10 hours into your first playthrough.
Otherwise what's the point of it even being there? Why not just make a whore house with 2 or 3 bangable girls/guys and be done with it?

If CDPR can spare resources to make a full side mission that's pretty much just marketing for GoG.com then they can make this new side activity worthy of multiple playthroughs just like Gwent was.
Hell they made Gwent, a simple card mini game activity into it's own freaking ga..........OH MY GOD, I just thought of something.....CDPR made a card mini game into something huge and they have shown they like sexy card collecting in Witcher 1!
So......


Could it be?
 
Believe me I know, but if we're gonna be playing through the game as multiple V's and exploring the game's many branching narratives then the one night stand activity shouldn't be something that becomes stale and boring before you even get 10 hours into your first playthrough.
Otherwise what's the point of it even being there? Why not just make a whore house with 2 or 3 bangable girls/guys and be done with it?
i mean the main point of the game isnt to bang 24/7. You know it would be a TON of work to create tha tmany unique animations just to up the sex scene count for people. Seems like diminishing returns, like they could be spending that time on like....the game itself?

like how many unique scenes do you think they need?

Hell they made Gwent, a simple card mini game activity into it's own freaking ga..........OH MY GOD, I just thought of something.....CDPR made a card mini game into something huge and they have shown they like sexy card collecting in Witcher 1!
?
i know you're joking but man that is like the cringiest shit CD Projekt ever did, can we forget that? lolol.
 
i mean the main point of the game isnt to bang 24/7. You know it would be a TON of work to create tha tmany unique animations just to up the sex scene count for people. Seems like diminishing returns, like they could be spending that time on like....the game itself?

like how many unique scenes do you think they need?
It likely took a TON of work to create a full high quality side quest that served no purpose other than to praise GoG.com and bash DRM as well, yet they did it and it was great, they didn't have to, but they did.
Likely took a TON of work to create Gwent as well.
Wonder how much more could have been done to Witcher 3 itself if they skipped Gwent. But they didn't, they worked hard and gave us something great on top of something legendary.
That's CD Projekt RED for ya.

If they're gonna give us the ability to bang everything that moves then they should make sure the quality is there as CDPR always does, there are likely thousands of NPCs in CP2077 and if they all have the same scene then the One Night Stand Activity is gonna become pointless in record time.
But to answer your question I'd say the amount should be close to Witcher 2, if not a few more.

A great idea would be to link it to the so called "Street Cred", the better your Street Cred, the better the scenes are, wouldn't make one night stands such a throw away feature then.
 
It likely took a TON of work to create a full high quality side quest that served no purpose other than to praise GoG.com and bash DRM as well, yet they did it and it was great, they didn't have to, but they did.
probably less work than all those animations though, tbh.

Likely took a TON of work to create Gwent as well.
Wonder how much more could have been done to Witcher 3 itself if they skipped Gwent. But they didn't, they worked hard and gave us something great on top of something legendary.
That's CD Projekt RED for ya.
gwent was gameplay though, and they'd been putting minigames in since the Witcher 1, it was a part of the series from day 1. honestly cant see them even remotely on the same level as "adding tons of animations so cutscenes dont get stale".

If they're gonna give us the ability to bang everything that moves

are they though?

we know nothing yet about the game lets remember
 
probably less work than all those animations though, tbh.
Who knows? I'm not a game dev, but CDPR have proven that they are not afraid to put in the extra effort for unnecessary things.
But if they're gonna add in this mechanic and then have it become stale in record time cause they didn't add any variety to the flings then what's the point in it even being there?
gwent was gameplay though, and they'd been putting minigames in since the Witcher 1, it was a part of the series from day 1. honestly cant see them even remotely on the same level as "adding tons of animations so cutscenes dont get stale".
They've been putting sex in their games since the beginning too, they don't have to add tons, just enough so the activity doesn't get stale, closer to Witcher 2 like I said.
I mean if a player goes around whoring themselves out at the beginning of the game then yeah, it's gonna get stale real fast no matter how many extra scenes there are.
But if there's just the one like Witcher 3, then it doesn't matter how many times you do it. It'll be just as stale 60 hours down the line as it was at the beginning.
are they though?

we know nothing yet about the game lets remember
It was brought up by nearly everyone who saw the demo and it's been confirmed that you can have One Night Stands, whether or not you can bang every NPC in the game or a select amount remains to be seen, but that doesn't matter if there is just one same scene over and over again. Same scene 1000 times or 10 times, they'll all be the same stale crap, rendering the activity pointless.
 
It's been confirmed that you can't. Your gender matters and not everybody will swing your way.
That doesn't mean all aren't doable, it just means you have to play as a different gender or orientation to do them.

What I'm getting at is that if you can do them all whether they be straight or gay, then there should be some varied cutscenes for them and not just 1 same cutscene over and over like in Witcher 3.
 
What is it with the poll options?

You wanna play a porn game? Go for any thrixxx game is my advice.
You want quicktimes and minisexgames? Go for Leisure Suit Larry.

For the rest of us... me included.... neat uncencored cutscenes is just fine
even with full frontal view, As far as interaction goes... *shrugs* it shouldn t
be more than .... lets say a "request" to the partner via dialog option.
(if even needed)

By all means, this will definitly not the most important thing to do in CP2077
But it ll give the opportunity for some nice banthering *smirk*

So long
 
On the topic of sex in game, if you are familiar with the classic Fallout 2, sex is a big part in that game, it could impact lots of outcome, I remember that I choose my female character to becomes a porn star just to see what's going to happen and the results is pretty funny, your opposite gender will adores you while the same gender will hates you and the prostitutes in town would throw nasty insults your way (praise if you are a male porn star) but overall you would becomes more famous, later in game there was this Yakuza boss or something, and you kind of have to gain his trust, there's an option to introduce yourself using your porn name (this is also very funny) and it turns out he's a fan of your movie, thus you can can progress through his quest more smoothly. I guess it's just like in real life, attractiveness or sexiness matters. It's not just about graphic sex, but the explicit narrative of sex that is also something very interesting to pursue. It's dark, it's funny and a very good role playing choice. I hope Cyberpunk 2077 have some of this elements in game. That would be super cool.
 
because if it serves no actual purpose, its just fluff. This is literally how you get bad games, movies and books. More isn't better. Better is better.

If you write a book and a plotline goes nowhere, it shouldn't be in the book.

A game isn't a book though. Take Gwent as an example, it's part of the game, has nothing to do with the plot but is simply a fun side activity. That's the great thing about games, you can chose what you invest in and that means that not everything in the game needs to support a plot. Even in movies or books that isn't always necessary. It's actually annoying for me if everything that happens is just a plot point. That's why I loved Solo so much, because it had fluff. The "bad guy" does things that doesn't further the plot at all but instead just help characterize him and show something of the world, like the moment where he offers his guests Colo Claw Fish (which looked damn delicious), just stuff people do, eating, drinking, not being concerned every second of their existince with some meaningful story. Of course that is minor compared to an activity in a game but games naturally allow for much more. While movies or books most often need extra books for the fluff like an Atlas, a Guide and things like that a game can integrate that very well into itself, because you can chose what you want to do and if someone wants to fuck around, do minor non-storyrelated stuff, just interacting and experiencing the world without following some important plot, well why not? You can always chose to ignore that, which you can't in a book or movie, where you need to watch the unnecessary part and where it costs precious time but even there I would say it depends. Something like Last Jedis Canto Bight Plot Line wasn't just bad because it led nowhere but mostly because it didn't worked in the world building department, it wasn't neither fun nor enhancing, just a chore.

And fun is also the point with side activities here. So what if it's just porn? Why not? As long as it's a fun experience and fits into the game it has a place there.
Personally I just want to have everything make sense, so not everyone should be bangable (and I am glad it's already confirmed that won't be the case) and I would want to see variety, not just meaning that the sex scenes feature different poses and environment but that it has a different meaning as well - speaking of enhancing the plot. A one-night stand might be just a short video, while other sex should or could have a deeper meaning be it in a relationship or be it something like "you let yourself be used as a horse for Arasaka's sadist chief of neuro-weapon research" which could open a door into Arasaka but could have other repercussions like "it was filmed and if you don't pay a good sum it will be put online and kills your street cred" or something like this and the scenes being explicit instead of just a fade to black make you way more invested in what is happening.
 

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Full XXX P0RN, censor nothing, because nothing speaks "mature game for mature audience" like full penetration.
 
I will be happy as long as there is the option to have each sex scene instead be a sensual montage of V and their partner feeding each other strawberries, caressing each other's hair and making pottery whilst On the Wings of Love by Jeffrey Osborne plays.
 
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