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Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

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M4xw0lf said:
I don't think they will run much warmer. But I do think they'll be freakin expensive. 2x16 GB should also be faster than 4x8 GB at the same timings (due to the dual rank topology).
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That's what I was wondering. Is 2x16GB really faster than 4x8GB even in dual rank mode? The downside is that 2x16 have higher latency too. Only 4x8 come in CL14-15-15-35.

Prices wise yeah, they aren't getting cheaper. I've heard also Samsung discontinued B-die RAM now.
 
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M4xw0lf

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Gilrond-i-Virdan said:
That's what I was wondering. Is 2x16 really faster than 4x8 even in dual rank mode? The downside is that 2x16 have higher latency too. Only 4x8 come in CL14-15-15-35.
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As always, it depends on the workload. I recall a few Ryzen 2000 test where dual rank modules had a significant advantage over single rank; however, a timing advantage of 3600 14-15-15-35 to, say, 3600 16-16-16-39 will probably give similar or sometimes better performance. It mainly comes down to price in the end.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

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I'm also concerned about those cheesy LEDs. Software to control them is Windows only, and I'd rather prefer a simple heatsink without any lights. Having always glowing RAM is not something I'd like.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

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I think I'd actually prefer 1.35V for cooler operation. The difference in timings is not that huge and that RAM is already quite fast. The main problem is now to find that kit. It's out of stock everywhere.
 
Triffid77

Triffid77

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Gilrond-i-Virdan said:
That's what I was wondering. Is 2x16GB really faster than 4x8GB even in dual rank mode? The downside is that 2x16 have higher latency too. Only 4x8 come in CL14-15-15-35.

Prices wise yeah, they aren't getting cheaper. I've heard also Samsung discontinued B-die RAM now.
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Cant remember the reasons but for dual channel mode 2 sticks is faster than 4.

Gskill has the fastest RAM that i know of. For 3600 1.35V the fastest is C15-35 - Its faster than the RGB ones. Doesnt appear to come in black but dont worry about colour. The RAM i got a few years ago was Corsairs 3733 at C17. Wanted low profile ram for heatsink clearance and it only came in red. It sits in the case, its not out on a pride parade.
- https://www.gskill.com/product/165/...ZDDR4-3600MHz-CL15-15-15-35-1.35V16GB-(2x8GB)

For 4000 the lowest latency is C17-37. Only available in the RBG
 
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imitenotbecrazy

imitenotbecrazy

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Nurul08 said:
Would it not have been better to wait till December time for potential offers etc... nevertheless I wish I still had time for gaming PC for cyberpunk.
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Given that Nvidia kind of sprung the Super line on us short notice, I'd have waited myself as well. I plan on building a new PC in March
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

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I'm waiting for custom Sapphire models for 5700 XT.

On a side note, Ryzen 9 3900X is completely sold out for weeks everywhere. What's going on with it?
 
Triffid77

Triffid77

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Gilrond-i-Virdan said:
Why is it so hard to find good cases with 200mm fans?
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Where do you want to use a 200? As for case, go with a Fractal R6. No better case on the market.

Go for front to back air flow. 3x A12x25 noctuas at front. 1x 140mm at rear. Mount PSU fan side up and seal every grille/hole (even the holes in the PCI slot covers) so air exits only via rear fan, PSU and GPU vent.
The PSU and GPU will always be passively cooled with a ton of positive pressure. Enough to nearly blow out a lighter, and its silent.

See my build from last year: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/TKkdnQ
(I've upped to a 2080ti, 970 evo 1tb to 2tb and replaced the 3tb HDD with a 4tb 860 qvo)
 
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M4xw0lf

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High quality fans bring noise down effectively, and there are much more offerings in the 120-140 mm range than above that.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

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Yep, I plan to use Noctua 200mm on the front intake, and 140mm on back exhaust. Looks like top fan in Cosmos II AE can't fit Noctua, so I'll use Cooler Master Megaflow (200mm) there.
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Found an article, which mentions, what happened to 200mm fan based cases:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3161-noctua-nf-a20-200mm-fan-review-vs-cooler-masterfan-mf200r
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If this is useful for anyone (finding a decent case with 200mm fans support that's still in stock and also allows easy usage of custom dust filters is hard):

* https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/full-tower/cosmos-2-25th-anniversary-edition/
* https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/megaflow-200-silent-fan/
* https://noctua.at/en/products/fan/nf-a20-pwm
* https://noctua.at/en/products/fan/nf-a14-pwm
 
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Restlessdingo32

Restlessdingo32

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Gilrond-i-Virdan said:
Just got Asrock X570 Taichi, and I see it has an extra power connector for the CPU - ATX 12V2. Is it needed or it only for some special cases?
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If you're referring to the extra 4 pin CPU power connector on the board I believe it's for special use cases where the processor power draw exceeds what you can get out of the single 8 pin connector. At least this is how it used to be. I'd think the board manual would explain it (it might not because.... manuals...). If memory serves, my old board had a similar setup and the manual said something to the effect of the additional connector is only necessary for extreme OC's (aka, they need moar powah).

Unless there is something weird with x570 I'd think this would still hold true. Assuming you have the right PSU/cables I wouldn't think populating both connections would hurt anything. Beyond being inconvenienced with needing to throw an extra cable in there.
 

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