[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Amethyst-056]

Why it wasn't an option to make a Biochip of V and plant it back with nanites to undo what Johnnys biochip done.

Because the only ones with the know-how to create the biochips is the Arasaka Corporation, and it's unlikely they'd want someone who's stolen from them in the past just running around.

Plus, the chipslot Johnny's biochip is inserted into is damaged (Thank you, Dex, you asshole...), leaving his 'chip likely both damaged and wedged, making it difficult at best to remove.

 

[AKANexus]

Also i dont its fair to compare mass effect 3 with cyberpunk. What me3 did was another level of travesty

Yet CP2077 is slowly walking towards that level...

 

[Simuxas]

Because the only ones with the know-how to create the biochips is the Arasaka Corporation, and it's unlikely they'd want someone who's stolen from them in the past just running around.

Plus, the chipslot Johnny's biochip is inserted into is damaged (Thank you, Dex, you asshole...), leaving his 'chip likely both damaged and wedged, making it difficult at best to remove.

Yes, but you go through that operation in Arasaka station that removes chip, could plant new one with V back, here, problem fixed, go back to earth.

If Johnnys Biochip can take over random persons Body, why V biochip can't do the same, kind of baffles me. Even on another random person that died.
It's just a big plot hole.

 

[Martynxas]

Funny how people with substandard arguments always end up with the "You wouldn't understand, it's an artistic thing" argument, rather than explaining themeslves? Everyone here asking for either a happy ending, closure, expanded endings and post-main mission open-world have presented valid arguments. Heck, even some of the people defending the current endings have presented valid arguments! But the rest is just...
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A lot of people here calling endings bad solely because they didnt get good one, how that makes any sense?

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Yet CP2077 is slowly walking towards that level...

Hell no, hard disagree. What me3 pulled in last 15mins is what you can call honestly garbage tier, you dont introduce such concepts at last 15mins

 

[MandyZGaming]

It feels very much like Panam is a key main character, not just a romance, same with Judy too I think. But then they skimped on River and Kerry. That kind of spoils their characters and points to how unfinished and poorly timed the romance system is, essentially giving us something meaningful that we don't have the time or means to really enjoy

Again the River story wasn´t bad. You got to know him really well, you get to help him rescue one of his nephews and later play with the other kids of his sister. And they all think of you as a happy couple there, because they both fell in love with another. And respect that he wants to live with me no matter of if I had to die soon. Probably most would backout there. He´s a great character and the game denies you that happy relationship is a crime. Counts for all relationships you guys want as well.

 

[Kikinho]

A lot of people here calling endings bad solely because they didnt get good one, how that makes any sense?

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Hell no, hard disagree. What me3 pulled in last 15mins is what you can call honestly garbage tier, you dont introduce such concepts at last 15mins

People are calling them bad because it doesn't follow basic story telling principles. Also I'm calling them bad because I got no closure and tey kill any drive for me to touch the game again.

 

[AKANexus]

Yes, but you go through that operation in Arasaka station that removes chip, could plant new one with V back, here, problem fixed, go back to earth.

As it was stated before, they had the technology to extract Saburo's consciousness from the cyberspace and implant it on a body with a similar phenotype... If they can send V's consciousness to the cyberspace as well, and cloning is trivial in 2077, how come they don't do that, rather leaving V to die?? Please note that Saburo's consciousness was extracted to the cyberspace after he died, while V is still alive - for all it matters it should be easier to do so...

plot. hole.

 

[BGM45]

Sounds like a dream. Would have been even harder to accept the rejection.
This is off topic here, but I personally like/don't mind that characters have prefered sexuality. It makes them believable.
I know this is too much to ask and probably a niche topic with noone outside the LGBT+ community caring about. But I would love to see an effect on the player character being rejected by a character because of sexuality.
Most often than not it is quite an emotional kick to be rejected by our crush. Especially if they are the same sex because the feeling of shame is even bigger imo. The hopelessness of no matter what you do, it won't change.

Alternatively, give us a better option than Kerry xD

totally agree with you. although when I found out Judy is gay, I got kind of offended on the part of my straight guy friends who wanted to romance her?

I think being honest about an experience is the best way to represent it, and the honest truth about being gay or bisexual is that oftentimes you get rejected not because they or you are a bad person, but simply because they have different preferences and that's okay.

I would prefer this over the "shy butchy lesbian and her indecisive bi pregnant girlfriend's adventures" shit TLOU2 tried to pull off any day every day.

 

[MeinChurro]

Yet CP2077 is slowly walking towards that level...

No, it's worse. Though it may be a different flavor of death, in most of ME3's endings, your death for one, meant something (to the galaxy), you were always prepared for it, and you had closure. You accomplished things in life.

 

[Martynxas]

As it was stated before, they had the technology to extract Saburo's consciousness from the cyberspace and implant it on a body with a similar phenotype... If they can send V's consciousness to the cyberspace as well, and cloning is trivial in 2077, how come they don't do that, rather leaving V to die?? Please note that Saburo's consciousness was extracted to the cyberspace after he died, while V is still alive - for all it matters it should be easier to do so...

plot. hole.

But youre talking about saburo, whos has pretty much infinite resources at his disposal

 

[MandyZGaming]

Sounds like a dream

He is. Truly.

 

[Draconifors]

A few posts deleted. Rudeness will not be tolerated; rule #1 is kindness and respect.

 

[Kikinho]

As it was stated before, they had the technology to extract Saburo's consciousness from the cyberspace and implant it on a body with a similar phenotype... If they can send V's consciousness to the cyberspace as well, and cloning is trivial in 2077, how come they don't do that, rather leaving V to die?? Please note that Saburo's consciousness was extracted to the cyberspace after he died, while V is still alive - for all it matters it should be easier to do so...

plot. hole.

I personally assumed they copied Saburo's consciousness before he died. Like as if he had a recent backup. A quicksave of him if you will lol. Which brings up a whole new can of wurms about the story tbh.

 

[AKANexus]

A lot of people here calling endings bad solely because they didnt get good one, how that makes any sense?

Read that sentence once again, but slowly this time.

Hell no, hard disagree. What me3 pulled in last 15mins is what you can call honestly garbage tier, you dont introduce such concepts at last 15mins

Yeah, I mean, playing through an absorbing story with believable characters, picking choices, and who dies and who lives in suicide missions, romancing this or that crewmate, allying with your enemy to turn against them right after, to just reduce your ending choices to a simple four-way dialogue was totally Cyberpunk's 2077 worst point. I mean, Mass Effect's.

 

[tRYSIS3]

Guess i'm one of the only 13 ppl happy with the current endings.. I've read through most comments in here and a lot of people argue that in the end no matter what you do, V dies so everything to that point is meaningless.
I disagree, first of all the premise of the story is that "there are no live legends", you have to die "possibly in a spectacular way, best if on a job" to get a drink named after you in the afterlife, that's one thing that might drive some people.
But after thinking for a while, didn't V die in the heist? (i might be mistaken here but from what i understood, V died due to Dex shooting us in the head and Viktor says the chip repaired our brain and started "overwriting", thus bringing us back) so technically V being an engram copy or not, doesn't change the fact that V died in the beginning and might already have lost his/her "soul". Also some might argue 6 months are a lot of time to come to terms with the fact that V is gonna die, plenty of time to do w/e. In the ending with Panam it's also hinted that they could travel and find some specialist to help V together.
Altho i prefer it that way because to me, it makes sense there's no happy ending in night city.
Personally i liked it and i can understand it might not be to everyone's taste, but that's no reason to hate so much on the devs.

Dying after trying to survive is not becoming a legend it is just pathetic, might as well have spent the game partying and going on stunts if at the end you die anyway.

 

[Ramzah]

We are not specificly hating on devs, we feel lied and decieved, because our choice do not matter in the end. And out all the endings, V ends up the same, dead. Out of all 6 or 7, couldn't have one been a nice one, where V lives, would that hurt anyone? You could choose your V's destiny yourself, on how the story is gonna end, but we felt forced into single option, death.

As i said, personal preference, i think that an ending where V lives "happily ever after" doesn't make much sense in the game world, not after all that happened to him. Feeling sad because you can't have a "happy ending" doesn't mean you've been lied to, in fact i stated already it makes sense and it's been hinted since the beginning that's how it was gonna end.

 

[Martynxas]

People are calling them bad because it doesn't follow basic story telling principles. Also I'm calling them bad because I got no closure and tey kill any drive for me to touch the game again.

What are those basic story principles? Plot was fairly consistent. Closure definately depends on ending, so do have it some do t, idk why is that. Though its your choice to not play it, its understandable

 

[Retro-_-]

Guess i'm one of the only 13 ppl happy with the current endings.. I've read through most comments in here and a lot of people argue that in the end no matter what you do, V dies so everything to that point is meaningless.
I disagree, first of all the premise of the story is that "there are no live legends", you have to die "possibly in a spectacular way, best if on a job" to get a drink named after you in the afterlife, that's one thing that might drive some people.
But after thinking for a while, didn't V die in the heist? (i might be mistaken here but from what i understood, V died due to Dex shooting us in the head and Viktor says the chip repaired our brain and started "overwriting", thus bringing us back) so technically V being an engram copy or not, doesn't change the fact that V died in the beginning and might already have lost his/her "soul". Also some might argue 6 months are a lot of time to come to terms with the fact that V is gonna die, plenty of time to do w/e. In the ending with Panam it's also hinted that they could travel and find some specialist to help V together.
Altho i prefer it that way because to me, it makes sense there's no happy ending in night city.
Personally i liked it and i can understand it might not be to everyone's taste, but that's no reason to hate so much on the devs.

Respect that. I think the issue isn't the endings out of context of the game, as mentioned if this were a one time instance such as a movie it would be fine. But this is a massive, RPG game with no replayability now. The story and endings are without a doubt very short for the magnitude of the game, but its more the way they go against every aspect of RPG in general and how CDPR sold us this game. From there on, we got immersed and connected wonderfully as expected from an RPG, and this game really does a remarkable job of that. Only to throw in that our decisions didn't really change anything much of the outcome and our experiences and emotional connection along wthe way were somewhat meaningless in the end.

And as the game progresses there is a shift from V chasing legend status to just wanting to live and be somebody, not a legend, not an icon, just not a fresh meal for NC to chew up and spit out.

Glad you enjoyed the endings though

 

[AKANexus]

As i said, personal preference, i think that an ending where V lives "happily ever after" doesn't make much sense in the game world, not after all that happened to him. Feeling sad because you can't have a "happy ending" doesn't mean you've been lied to, in fact i stated already it makes sense and it's been hinted since the beginning that's how it was gonna end.

It has also been said at the beginning:

 

[MeinChurro]

totally agree with you. although when I found out Judy is gay, I got kind of offended on the part of my straight guy friends who wanted to romance her?

I think being honest about an experience is the best way to represent it, and the honest truth about being gay or bisexual is that oftentimes you get rejected not because they or you are a bad person, but simply because they have different preferences and that's okay.

I would prefer this over the "shy butchy lesbian and her indecisive bi pregnant girlfriend's adventures" shit TLOU2 tried to pull off any day every day.

I heard that game is game of the year, maybe cdpr should take notes?