The romance options for straight Female and Male V is disappointing [Mild spoilers]

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I too was VERY dissapointed about the Romanceoptions. As a straight Male you are forced onto Panam, thats it. Didnt they promise a big variety for Everyone? And yeah, i agree with some of the other statements that they all just could have been bisexual. The Scenes that indicate some sexual stuff (Sorry but they are no sexscenes to me) would not have caused any problems due to their horrendous quality.
 
Actually, I don't want the romance options to have all been bisexual. I like that there is some life in the NPCs still, that they are choosey. They really could have added a few other bisexual options, though to expand the repertoire.

Its all just totally underwhelming, generally.
 
Straight people have only 1 choice, ok. You can meet Panam on the main quest. River? Side-quest.
I just beat the game with 0 romance.

As a female straight V, I totally avoided spoilers and ended up with 0 romance choices. Now I'm on a kind of a rant (along side all these experience breaking bugs, can't help it tbh).
So many main characters sharing a bond, Takemura, Jackie, Vik, Jenkins... disappointed.
 
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Dont get me wrong its nothing game breaking or anything but just.....disappointing ,im kind off baffled that they do all this marketing for judy and having fans fall in love with her just to have them cockblocked because she only prefers females ,the only option for straight male V is panam palmer dont get me wrong she is my favorite female character in the game ,but if Judy was an option i would have looked forward to it if i replayed as male V again ,same thing with the witcher 3 where you had triss and yenn and other rpgs with romance like Mass Effect and Persona looking forward to romances really helped while replaying these games.
As for Straight Female V i also feel that kerry could have also been a great romance option for her and takemura aswell but sadly none of them are.
except for judy all other romance options storyline feels so lacking and empty, for judy her questline was so great and immersive, you experience her happiness, her grief, her anger, and her redemption and even after her last mission she still calls you, text with you, or even add random events when you call her making you feel that this person cares for you and making you feel like there's really a relationship on the other hand the other romance options feels so bland and plain, so lacking in story and character development, it feels so rushed and forgetful, like panams story panam is a great woman but sadly her questline is so rushed and lack so much content and character development, it feel so quick and emotionless and when you two get on a relationship after the last mission you guys basically never talk, she never calls, text, or even worry that V is dying unlike judy so yea panam really needs more story to make you feel theres a relationship, and for river ward his questline is so forgetful I didnt even remembered him till the last mission that I still have to help him and some people also didnt know that his a romanceable character so yea apart from judy all romance option needs more story and character development and make it feel more emotional and that they are really in a relationship not just like a one night stand and then he/she is gone from you life until the ending choices, PLS CDPR add more content to the romance options panam, kerry, meredith, and river ward needs more story and character development cause it feels like you guys was way too focus on judys questline that you just rushed the other romance options to save time for release.
 
At least Panam comes with you in the ending, one of the endings at least and shows concerns about you romanced or not. Judy on the other hand... well just a call and that's all. Doesn't show much of a concern. :giveup: And recently found out you can't even tell others that you have a relationship if you ever form a rs with someone and do Panam's mission. In my case i had a rs with Judy and V didn't even say it was a serious relationship. I guess each romance has their ups and downs. Something went very wrong with the writing.

But yeah agreed, compared to those 2, the rest didn't get much content. Makes me think what was the point of the others if there isn't much continuation. Oh well, all we can hope is better content in the dlcs and for those who didn't get much. :cool:
 
God-damn you guys are thirsty. Not everyone has to be fuckable to make them an interesting character. Do not go bioware route please where fanguys and fangirls discuss what does the sweat of their LI tastes like. CDPR strength comes from writing amazing believable characters who are not just objects of your lust.
 
One option per orientation, rather disappointing. Not all of us like the same kind of person. Then again, we got precious little input to our V too, honestly...

For me, it was River. Luckily I kind of liked him, but, really, once 'romanced' (right...), there was nothing? A few lines, always the same... That's not romance, that's a one-night stand. 'That was nice, let's be a couple, but see you whenever' deal?

Combined with my ending (remaining days) I felt I would have been better off ignoring that whole part, because it annoyed me... And again, I had no say in how my V reacted in large.


...and why are the the ladies part of the main story and not the two guys?
 
Romances in general are disappointing. The stories that lead up to them are alright. Intriguing, interesting and overall good.. but once you complete the romance.. in example, Judy becomes a default npc with extremely limited dialogue after you begin dating her. She gives you access to her apartment, but that literally means nothing.. You can go in, investigate stuff like it's lore.. but ultimately results in next to nothing content once her missions are done.

I figured the dating was just beginning and you'd progress further with some nice nights hanging out with your new girlfriend/boyfriend and go deep into the character progression of them.. But nope. A big fat nope in fact.

The stories leading up to that are alright. But lackluster after the "money" shots. I hope more development is coming.
 
I think I could manage with having only 2 options and accept that my V has to be bi to even have a choice, if both romances are very different and they have a different personality, so that there is any choice involved at all. Right now choice between River and Judy seems just to be choice of prefered sexual organ, because they are the exact same character.

I play a hard ass Street Samura / Solo, who enjoys city life, synthetic clothes, chrome and neon light. If Iam not the stylished bitch in the room, someone needs to die, so that I can take her clothes. :p

Now lets see what my options are, regardless of gender:

- Judy. She is a netrunner composing BD porn. Hell yeah. But she doesn't like doing that and wants to help others and then move to the country to live out her farmgirl fantasy. Wouldn't even help me survive my last 6 months searching for a cure before moving to greener fields. Meh.

-River. He is one of the good cops left in this big bad City that no one else seems to survive morally unchallenged. Hell yeah. As soon as we bond he decides to move to the country side, to help his broken trailer trash family and invites me to do the same. Urgh, meh. One grilling is ok, but I will never set my foot again in this trash heap until drunked out of my mind.

- Panam. She is a hard ass mercenary and smuggler. Hell yeah. But she is constantly bickering about her trashy family and friends who wouldn't stick their neck out for her when it counts. I tried to convince her to leave them behing but no. In the end, she just wants to live the low life in the countryside aka badlands, among the trashiest people who besides being adults, need her constant babysitting. Yeah, very inviting.

See that? 3 out of romances dream about being trailer trash and living the dirty hobo life together with emotionally scarred and effed up people who you must constantly babysit. Wow, that was surely my fantasy entering a game set in 2077 named Cyberpunk.

- Kerry. He just wants to fuck and then sell out to some female N-Sync Band to gethis name on the newsfeed again, sucking corporate cock all the way.

I just want to be the most basic character in the setting of cyberpunk. A full blown solo, a merc, who enjoys being on the edge all the time and lives a "devil may care" life. That is like being the lawfull-good warrior in a fantasy game like Neverwinter Nights or Dragon Age. It is THE MOST iconic lifepath for the setting. There is NO ROMANCE for such a character in this game.
Your lover wants to live like a coward with crying hobos or he wants to sell out to little girls for fame and money. V is called a mercenary all the time. Where is the romance that wants to live this live WITH her. I don't even care if gay or not, if the romance is crafted well.

Look at the Mass Effect 2 romances. If I played a do good standard Shepherd I could have a romance with Miranda, Tali, Jack, Jacob, Garrus and Thane. Yeah, thats right. Playing as the regular hero allows you to romance EVERYONE.
if you play an asshole you can have sex with Jack, but not romance her, because she test you with her first try to get sexual. If you hate powermongering and means-to-an-ende morales you won't get near Miranda. If you don't like soldier life, Garrus isn't for you. But if you play some upright guy, a soldier doing his best and not something very specific, all these romances can add a little personal touch to your story. They may have gender preferences, but that is ok if you have so many alternatives.

I want a romance option from someone with Jackies goals. To be a legend, to live fast, hard and with style. Because that is what Cyberpunk is about. Cyberpunk isn't about romanticing living on a trash heap with emotional children in poverty. 75% of romances in this game want to do exactly this. The other one prefers his career and fame over anything else. Wow.
If I played a Netrunner (another extreme iconic role), I have basically no romance options, because netrunner Judy doesn't want to do that anymore. Everyone just wants to live like gypsies. It may be fitting vor Panem, but it fells totally out of character for River and Judy. I fell in love with cop/porn editor - now they just want to be something else. Something simple and boring.
They all want to live like you could today. They all hate the setting they are in. Well I don't, else I wouldn't have bought a game named CYBERPUNK 2077 - it isn't called Badlands Simulator 2020.
 
In my case i was disappointed that Panam would only romance a male guy. Judy isn't my type, sadly. And a guy is not a choice for me personally, sorry.
The whole romance thing, if done right, makes an RPG a bit more enjoyable for me.
Not to f* one, as someone said. That has nothing to do with that.
It just feels nice that your "lonely" hero/ine has someone in the story line who cares about.

And why not building up to that. Like let your romance join your apartment as well, when in it calling them and whatnot.
But seems the story behind all the romances is also a bit lacking as well.
Sad to see Cyberpunk in such an unfinished state, after all that telling from CDPR.
It doesn't feel like a RPG that had such a long dev time behind itself. How long was it? 6 years?

Don't get me wrong entirely, it is still fun. And even the bugs bring up some funny moments. And for me on the PC the bugs are very minor issues, if at all.
But it could have been so much more in my eyes. Maybe not 2020 as release target, not as much hype from the PR area...
Who knows.
Like that it feels a bit like KotoR II, the game that was half finished because the studio closed shortly after.
The City feels closed off very harsh. So many areas, so less to explore. And the areas who are quite unique are lacking. Why can you buy sextoys at Jig-Jig Street for example? I mean, why can you buy stuff from a shop like BDs but can't use them at all? They just glutter your inventory for the rest of the gametime. It just adds to the feel that the game isn't finished at all.
Where are the customisation options for your body? Why can't a ripperdoc change your looks, when you can hear on every corner that this isn't a big thing at all in 2077?
Chromskin? Goldskin?
Well, maybe i complain to much... but it's just my feeling on that otherwise nice game. It feels like pommes without cetchup/majo.

And right done romance options would have been a great addition.
Right now, it's like... eat or die. In this case, no romance for me. My heroine goes a lonely live. Feels bad.
 
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Personally I think 1 additional option for each set sexuality (male het, female het, lesbian and gay), and two additional bisexual characters - one of each gender, maybe Takemura and Evelyn - would be an excellent idea for full romances. I also think there should be a number of one-night stands you can have with characters like Sasquatch, Placide, Dum-Dum, that manager of Lizzie's bar, etc etc. They can have their preferences, too.

I 100% agree about quality over quantity, but there DOES need to be a basic choice between two for each sexuality at the very least, because it's not really fair to say, 'This person's looks or personality not to your taste? Tough! Don't romance anyone' in a game where they've constantly emphasized choice.

And existing romances really need to be built upon. Maybe 3 or 4 additional 'quests' (dates) or opportunities to spend time on them, getting to know them more, and being able to sleep with them whenever you go to their apartment, and actually interact with their place and them. V pretty much lost her family when she lost a certain brother, so give the player the opportunity to find that again, and the place to 'belong' anew with their chosen LI. I mean, isn't that the least V deserves in the time she/he has left?

Additionally, 2077 is a world filled with and desensitized to sex, and it should really hammer that home in more ways then just offering a crap-ton of advertising around the city, and 4 joy toys. Put prostitutes in poorer districts like Heywood, more in Jig-jig street, more joy toys in that establishment, brain-dances you can find/hire/buy (and actually watch) revolving around sex, make those dildos useable when at V's apartment, more stumbling across people in compromising sexual positions, or using sex to get what they want, or even characters that try it on with V because they want a favor, want to lower V's guard and exploit her/him, or because they're turned on by V's dangerous reputation or whatever.
I found two joy toys at the jig-jig street only. Where are the others?
 
True that, I tried to flirt with Panam just for the fun, and when she rejected me and then this warm friendship emerges out of the story, it just felt good.
That doesn't excuse the lack of options, really. The friendship could be there with the option given to the player to pursue this relationship further. It COULD have been done. And, look, then there'd be some of those consequences CDPR's been taunting in the game ads!

But, nope. Can't have that, can we?
 
Don't see the point of retconning the characters. Judy was designed as lesbian, we should respect that.
How is she designed as lesbian? What exactly would be different in her quest and personality, if she would be bi?
I can understand that statement regrading DA:I Dorian, for example, since all his personality, his relations with his family, his entire story is based on his homosexuality, but there is no such character in Cyberpunk.
Plus, we are talking about year 2077, where body itself is just plastic you shape as you wish, there are tons of shemales, crossdressers, some fucking cyborgs and intelligent AI, I wonder such thing as sexual orientation still exists in this world

Ok let them be gay/straight, but then give us more options! That is not ok for RPG to have this limited choice. Especially considering the fact most of romanceable characters are just side-quest NPC which will not follow you in through the story anyway.
 
How is she designed as lesbian? What exactly would be different in her quest and personality, if she would be bi?
I can understand that statement regrading DA:I Dorian, for example, since all his personality, his relations with his family, his entire story is based on his homosexuality, but there is no such character in Cyberpunk.
Plus, we are talking about year 2077, where body itself is just plastic you shape as you wish, there are tons of shemales, crossdressers, some fucking cyborgs and intelligent AI, I wonder such thing as sexual orientation still exists in this world

Ok let them be gay/straight, but then give us more options! That is not ok for RPG to have this limited choice. Especially considering the fact most of romanceable characters are just side-quest NPC which will not follow you in through the story anyway.
Why does a lesbian have to have a background in first place for her to be a lesbian? Why do hets exist? Why do bi ppl exist? Must a lesbian have a "history" of her sexuality in order to be lesbian? Also some ppl dont have their "entire story based on their homosexuality". Some ppl are gay bc they are. It's what it is. She's lesbian.
 
except for judy all other romance options storyline feels so lacking and empty, for judy her questline was so great and immersive, you experience her happiness, her grief, her anger, and her redemption and even after her last mission she still calls you, text with you, or even add random events when you call her making you feel that this person cares for you and making you feel like there's really a relationship on the other hand the other romance options feels so bland and plain, so lacking in story and character development, it feels so rushed and forgetful, like panams story panam is a great woman but sadly her questline is so rushed and lack so much content and character development, it feel so quick and emotionless and when you two get on a relationship after the last mission you guys basically never talk, she never calls, text, or even worry that V is dying unlike judy so yea panam really needs more story to make you feel theres a relationship, and for river ward his questline is so forgetful I didnt even remembered him till the last mission that I still have to help him and some people also didnt know that his a romanceable character so yea apart from judy all romance option needs more story and character development and make it feel more emotional and that they are really in a relationship not just like a one night stand and then he/she is gone from you life until the ending choices, PLS CDPR add more content to the romance options panam, kerry, meredith, and river ward needs more story and character development cause it feels like you guys was way too focus on judys questline that you just rushed the other romance options to save time for release.
 
How is she designed as lesbian? What exactly would be different in her quest and personality, if she would be bi?
I can understand that statement regrading DA:I Dorian, for example, since all his personality, his relations with his family, his entire story is based on his homosexuality, but there is no such character in Cyberpunk.
Plus, we are talking about year 2077, where body itself is just plastic you shape as you wish, there are tons of shemales, crossdressers, some fucking cyborgs and intelligent AI, I wonder such thing as sexual orientation still exists in this world
Your entire life is based around your sexual orientation? Mine isn't. Do you also believe that your sexual orientation will change in the future based on tech progress? Mine won't.

In conclusion: Judy is a lesbian and it's time to get over it.
 
Why does a lesbian have to have a background in first place for her to be a lesbian?
Than why she must be locked as lesbian, considering the lack of options for romance in this game? What is the point? She is not a real person, she is NPC in the videogame, so-called "sexuality" doesn't make this (or any) character any deeper in case there is no story related, in case of Cyberpunk straight/gay is just a tag. Besides, Judy triggers on body type only, and this lesbian it pretty fine with tits + dick combo, which makes her locked sexuality even more questionable.

Still don't see why every romanceable character can't be bisexual, there are only 4 of them for fuck sake. It will not ruin roleplay, moreover, it will improve it. In playthrough of one player she can be sweet to female, in playthrough of another - to male. I don't understand how in can ruin the game experience of the first player.
 
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