AFAIK the 2013 trailer had the intention to attract developers.I am just curious, how was this game announced in 2013, and it's actual development started in 2018?
AFAIK the 2013 trailer had the intention to attract developers.I am just curious, how was this game announced in 2013, and it's actual development started in 2018?
This is a repost of a comment at yt about the game development:
Don't worry. There is a good chance that these mechanics appear during the year, because they were created, but they were cut out before the game premiere. After the premiere, a lot of facts and stories about the game's production started to be revealed. It seems to me that this information does not reach the English-speaking media, but there is a lot of it in the Polish language.
The most important ones are: The game has been developed since 2012. Originally, the game was supposed to resemble very much the Witcher 3 (we were supposed to play with a detective known from the first trailer, the game was supposed to have a first-person and third-person view, be dark, and the main storyline was supposed to talk about the conspiracy of the corporation with the government connected with the plague of cyberpsychois.
In 2016 the scriptwriter was changed and despite the advanced work on the game (which was to come out in 2017 at the latest) the whole game was deleted and started again. The new scenario was much more complex and soon it turned out that the used game engine is not able to work properly with such an advanced game. In 2016 the whole game was rewritten for the new engine. In 2018 the acting sessions for the game were already in progress. The game assumed that the scenario will look completely different depending on the choice of gender, character orgin, and the result of the mission with the chip. It was supposed to be 18 different games! Each scenario had its own missions, unique characters and locations. For example, the results of a mission with a stolen chip depended on whether Jackie dies and it is the V who will implant the chip, Jackie will survive and it is he who will implant the chip, or maybe we will tempt the corporation and give the chip back and Jackie will survive but be our enemy. Each of these three scenarios had its own narrator.
One of them was Johnny Silverhand. Keanu Reeves liked the script so much that he asked for a bigger role for his character. As a result, the whole story was rebuilt and the other two narrators were thrown out of the game. One of them was definitely supposed to be Hideo Kojima. The other one was probably Jackie. We also know that in one of the scenarios the character played a huge role of Lady Gaga (it is possible that she was to be the third narrator).
As a result of additional work (an important factor was the employment of people with no experience in managerial positions, who with their stupid ideas sabotaged the work of programmers) many advanced gameplay mechanics were neglected. In mid-2019 it became obvious that the game will not be ready by 2020. It was therefore decided to cut out further storyline elements such as: storyline threads regardless of gender, an advanced system of relations with gangs, characters about corporations, 8 hours of prologue, which was summarized into a film interlude, and which explained the rules of the world to the player, built a tower with characters, and taught the mechanic.
In early 2020, all versions of the game were full of bugs, plot inconsistencies and mechanics that were not working, and the game itself was unoptimized. The postponement of the first release was only to cut out more missions and mechanics such as: advanced AI of drivers, opponents and police, crowd AI, advanced model of environmental damage and vehicles. The following were thrown out of the game a year earlier: train driving, flying vehicles, floating vehicles, running on walls, and vehicle tuning mechanics were not even started.
Now we know that all forces have been directed to fix the bugs by stopping work on two role-playing additions. It is possible that CDPR will add removed mechanics and feature content as free DLC. Most of these things are partially done and need only be fine-tuned. It would be a shame to throw away so much work, especially since releasing the deleted content would restore CDPR's reputation among players.
I dont know if this is true, but if yes its acutally much more sad and dissapointing how this game turned out.... What do you think?
Which is normal. CDPR is located in Poland and the gossip is strongest there. In our time it is extremely hard to keep something secret and there will always be leaks.
Just believing what someone in a random youtube comment says?
Where's the post to the original comment? Did the youtube commenter link the Polish articles in his post?
I was that person. I only had saw a few minutes of the 2018 video. Than I stuck to reading articles from the news CD put out. What got me hooked was the setting, the "extensive" character creator, and gangs. All three things are nothing. There is not much to do in the setting. When you're not allowed to immerse yourself in the various aspect. Which goes with the character creator. Whatever they thought of being a good creator. Saints Row 3 and 4 did better. You could at least modify the actual body. It wasn't the best thing in the universe.But its not just "hype". There are players who bought this game without getting hyped, just to find out that something is off with the story and the game. They then proceed to use the internet to check out whats wrong and there you go. You found the problem and have the same feelings as the players that got "hyped".
Yes, the correct advertisement CDPR should have employed is: very short linear main story, short side quests, very basic character creation, linear adventure with minor choices.I was that person. I only had saw a few minutes of the 2018 video. Than I stuck to reading articles from the news CD put out. What got me hooked was the setting, the "extensive" character creator, and gangs. All three things are nothing. There is not much to do in the setting. When you're not allowed to immerse yourself in the various aspect. Which goes with the character creator. Whatever they thought of being a good creator. Saints Row 3 and 4 did better. You could at least modify the actual body. It wasn't the best thing in the universe.
But At least I had the choice to make a super hero looking character. In here, V is some character that can't use half the things the city shows me. And I'm beating up Razor. With some dinky looking Gorilla arms. While I would like to make my body look like his. We don't even have the option to have a voice filter. Like the Animals. Or the red eyes of the Maelstrom. Those pointy legs.
As for the Gangs. That was the thing I was wanting. Because the only thing I thought at minimum. Was the gang system in GTA San Andreas. This game doesn't even use the animals. In any real proper story element. Let alone have a rep gang system to use. Did I like what the game does have, yes. But I would have not bought this game on launch. They hyped up all the junk they kept saying about it. If they said the creator was going to be VERY BASIC. And the game is a linear story. With some choices. I'd be cool with it. I'll check it out when I can, later. Older games did things better. Which is one of the things that sours the game in peoples view.
I'm not believing it, I was just making somewhat of analysis on the article posted. Also it seems you never worked in corporate environment before - of course there is a gossip of those around and by their competitors. Of course some of the CDPR employees who worked on the game are probably very frustrated by the decisions taken. And of course some of them leaked info either during drinking beer/coffee with friends or with their colleagues from other companies around. This is a daily routine in such companies.
And that is a good thing? I mean they were hyping this game from almost 2013 and acutally started working on it in 2017? If players would know this I bet they never sold that much copies cause everyone must have figured out they cant make the game they are promising to make in only 3 years .. at least I know i would never buy it on day 1 if I had known it was only 2-3 years in makingThat write up lost me on "the game was in advanced stages of development in 2016 for a release in 2017"... Yeah, sure. Nice fanfic.
You want a proof? How about that YT comment is now deleted lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/koqav5
I even replied to that comment on YT and I cant even find my own reply so thats that.
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It was under this video, the very first comment
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1:36 CD Project Red fans after the games release.
Guy posting it was one of orkako the comment is now gone.
If this is all lies why would he delete it?
Proper marketing of the game started only in 2018. Before that we only saw couple of interviews and a CGI video. Hardly counts as hyping the game since 2013. People had high expectations because Witcher 3 ended up being a smash success. But only after 2015-2016. Almost nobody knew or cared about CP77 before that.And that is a good thing? I mean they were hyping this game from almost 2013 and acutally started working on it in 2017? If players would know this I bet they never sold that much copies cause everyone must have figured out they cant make the game they are promising to make in only 3 years .. at least I know i would never buy it on day 1 if I had known it was only 2-3 years in making
Yes except the post is deleted now little weird no?That reddit post is referencing this thread, it adds no validity since it is circular reference. So nobdy screencapped this either? I'm calling bull on the story till I see something more substantive.
If this is all lies why would he delete it?
Yeah I believe it, not all of it but there is definitely some truth in there, I have played the game for at least 60 hours and I can see that lot of the features, lot of the content what was supposed to be in the game is clearly missing, its popping at you at every corner in the game.If it was true, why would he delete it?
You don't have arguements except – as was pointed out already – circular "he said, she said" and now even this
"Look at this reddit thread about my thread! It confirms that what I said was said by me. Therefore it's true that someone said it!"
Great logic!
And judging by the leaked info from a confirmed dev, the game needed another half a year at least.