No, it wasn't. I can find a thread about it from June 2019.This was an extremely late change
No, it wasn't. I can find a thread about it from June 2019.This was an extremely late change
This was less than a year before it's first release date.No, it wasn't. I can find a thread about it from June 2019.
"Extremely late" implies less than 10 months, unless your definition of 'extremely' is rather unusual. But whatever.This was less than a year before it's first release date.
[...]I feel like it's unfair to be told that I want a "dating sim" for wanting a little bit of what Panam fans got.[...]
So you want top change the character of River, Kerry and/or Judy, because you envy male Vs that romanced Panam? Why don't you accept e.g. Judy as the person she is? What's wrong with Judy not being a tank girl, but rather being a skillful nerdy person she is?
Well, Panam's got a whole ending about her. Can't deny the obvious! And it's not about "character change".
And correct me if I'm wrong, but she's the only LI who has her questline carried on after the one night stand (I mean, with the other LIs it's just one-minute sex at the end of the questline; done, forget about them).
And yes, she's stealing Judy's spot on the top of the tank
Bob and Ted.
So Judy should have learned to drive a tank then. Or have to steal her own tank from Militech.
Jokes aside, who are those? Did V even meet them or have a quest with them before deciding on the rooftop?
I only remember the nomad netrunners and some guy in a cowboy hat...
I mean, if those are just some two nomads that were given names so that they can die, they don't equal "Rogue dying", or "Panam dying".
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No. V can drive Judy around in a tank. It's not as if they need to shoot. Does it matter?
No, the romance scene is in the last quest of her questline.And correct me if I'm wrong, but she's the only LI who has her questline carried on after the one night stand
Bob, Teddy, Carol, and Cassidy are the only side characters throughout Panam's questline. You should pay attention more.Jokes aside, who are those? Did V even meet them or have a quest with them before deciding on the rooftop?
I only remember the nomad netrunners and some guy in a cowboy hat...
I mean, if those are just some two nomads that were given names so that they can die, they don't equal "Rogue dying", or "Panam dying".
Jokes aside, who are those? Did V even meet them or have a quest with them before deciding on the rooftop?
I only remember the nomad netrunners and some guy in a cowboy hat...
I mean, if those are just some two nomads that were given names so that they can die, they don't equal "Rogue dying", or "Panam dying".
upd. NO, still don't know who these guys are.
So you want to change the characters of River, Kerry and/or Judy, because you envy male Vs that romanced Panam? Why don't you accept e.g. Judy as the person she is? What's wrong with Judy not being a tank girl, but rather being a skillful nerdy tech-person she is?
Very much, it's the nomad's tank. It's their tank because of Panam's idea, plan and leadership. Judy could have come up with something of her own. But she didn't. Because her characteristics were not needed with the ending pathes presented to us.
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They're minor characters in Panam's clique. Bobby's got the soulful voice and Teddy's the one that calls V Sleeping Beauty after they move camp.
OK. To everyone their own.
You do understand though that "Judy's spot on the tank" means "a sunset love scene with the love interest", not literally a spot on the tank?[...]
I am fine with Judy not driving a Basilisk, I am not fine with being forced to cuddle with Panam in the last scene of the game.[...]
No, the romance scene is in the last quest of her questline.
My bitterness/saltiness about the LIs: It's definitely a different issue, I was referring to Balmung79 saying that what some people want is a dating sim; maybe I'm not the one they're talking about, but yeah, I wanted to cuddle with Judy in the final scene of the Star ending. I wanted to at least try to assuage River's worries in the Sun ending instead of acting like I had a death wish. And yeah, it would have been nice if we could have seen V get back to their LI in the Devil ending if they go back to Earth (although that one may be asking too much). I feel like it's unfair to be told that I want a "dating sim" for wanting a little bit of what Panam fans got.
I also prefer the Sun ending currently, but I don't expect much for the River romance in future content. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they don't give him the Jacob Taylor from Mass Effect treatment, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Half of those 48 minutes are in the Star ending and happen no matter if you romanced her or not.OK. Here's where the impression comes from: opened a "full romance" video (76 min, just scenes, not gameplay), and you sleep with Panam 28 min into talking to her, but then you have 48 more min of dialogue.
Not comparable to the rest still.
She has quite a nice holo in the credits. So there is something.
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There is not even a cuddle in that scene, just a slight touch of Panam's hand to Vs arm. You even get that as male V who didn't romance Panam. It's a platonic, friendship, neutral scene and gesture. Only If you romanced Panam you could read more into it. Or If you are envious.
I also made the Jacob comparison to a friend yesterday, joking we'll start up the DLC and it will be River stating V was gone for a few weeks and he forgot she existed entirely oooops.
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I just dug into my screenshots, because I knew I wasn't dreaming, it's very, very dark, of course, but these two character models are definitely cuddling in my opinion. My nomad is basically in Panam's lap:
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LOL, V comes back from the Crystal Palace heist and finds that River now has a pregnant girlfriend who wants to name the baby V.
Half of those 48 minutes are in the Star ending and happen no matter if you romanced her or not.