Questions about the story of the heist.

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Spoilers obviously so please don't read beyond.

Chain of events:

Yorinobu Arasaka stole the prototype improved biochip with the aid of Anders Hellman.

The Voodoo Boys hired Evelyn Parker to make a virtu of Yorinobus hotel room so that they could steal the biochip, they knew it had Johnny Silverhands engram on it and wanted to use him to contact Alt Cunningham.

Evelyn was aware they were after the biochip.

She doublecrossed them and went to Dexter Deshawn with a plan to sell it to NetWatch. She told him that was Yorinobus plan.

Edit: Something I only picked up in a later playthrough is that Saburo tells Yorinobu he knows of his plan to sell the biochip to Westerners and Hellman told him of this.

Questions this prompts:

What was Yorinobu doing with the biochip and why was Silverhands engram on it? Hellman its inventor did not know about this when V tells him at the Sunset Motel.

Was he planning to sell it to NetWatch as Evelyn claimed, and Saburo said he knew of this intention, and why because as an Arasaka he surely did not want for money?

How did the Voodoo Boys find out about the biochip and that it contained Silverhands engram?

How did Evelyn know about the biochip and that it was the reason for the Voodoo Boys hiring her?

Speculation:

If NetWatch did indeed know of the chip and were after it well then when V confronts the NetWatch agent at the GIM he did not know V had it.

On the other hand if they did know they would be interested in it either because they would consider whatever the Voodoo Boys want to be bad news or if they knew what was on it they might even consider the Silverhand engram to be a dangerous AI in addition to that.

Perhaps if NetWatch did know they also wanted to use it to contact Alt.

Could this have been Yorinobus plan as Alt did say Arasaka had black ICE with her literal name on it. But then why steal it and not inform Hellman.
 
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Spoilers obviously so please don't read beyond.

Chain of events:

Yorinobu Arasaka stole the prototype improved biochip with the aid of Anders Hellman.

The Voodoo Boys hired Evelyn Parker to make a virtu of Yorinobus hotel room so that they could steal the biochip, they knew it had Johnny Silverhands engram on it and wanted to use him to contact Alt Cunningham.

Evelyn was aware they were after the biochip.

She doublecrossed them and went to Dexter Deshawn with a plan to sell it to NetWatch. She told him that was Yorinobus plan.

Questions this prompts:

What was Yorinobu doing with the biochip and why was Silverhands engram on it? Hellman its inventor did not know about this when V tells him at the Sunset Motel.

Was he planning to sell it to NetWatch as Evelyn claimed and why because as an Arasaka he surely did not want for money?

How did the Voodoo Boys find out about the biochip and that it contained Silverhands engram?

How did Evelyn know about the biochip and that it was the reason for the Voodoo Boys hiring her?

Speculation:

If NetWatch did indeed know of the chip and were after it well then when V confronts the NetWatch agent at the GIM he did not know V had it.

On the other hand if they did know they would be interested in it either because they would consider whatever the Voodoo Boys want to be bad news or if they knew what was on it they might even consider the Silverhand engram to be a dangerous AI in addition to that.

Perhaps if NetWatch did know they also wanted to use it to contact Alt.

Could this have been Yorinobus plan as Alt did say Arasaka had black ICE with her literal name on it. But then why steal it and not inform Hellman.
more questions than answers. as i said before the game has a shit ton of plot holes and inconsistencies everywhere. don't even get me started about the poorly written endings that make ME3 cry...
 
The only sense I can make is, that Yorinobu deliberately chose Johnny's engram to lure his father out so he could murder him to get his position to then kick of a Corpo war to realize his rebellion from within.

I think most other engrams wouldn't be interesting to Saburo Arasaka.
 
Spoilers obviously so please don't read beyond.

Chain of events:

Yorinobu Arasaka stole the prototype improved biochip with the aid of Anders Hellman.

The Voodoo Boys hired Evelyn Parker to make a virtu of Yorinobus hotel room so that they could steal the biochip, they knew it had Johnny Silverhands engram on it and wanted to use him to contact Alt Cunningham.

Evelyn was aware they were after the biochip.

She doublecrossed them and went to Dexter Deshawn with a plan to sell it to NetWatch. She told him that was Yorinobus plan.

Questions this prompts:

What was Yorinobu doing with the biochip and why was Silverhands engram on it? Hellman its inventor did not know about this when V tells him at the Sunset Motel.

Was he planning to sell it to NetWatch as Evelyn claimed and why because as an Arasaka he surely did not want for money?

How did the Voodoo Boys find out about the biochip and that it contained Silverhands engram?

How did Evelyn know about the biochip and that it was the reason for the Voodoo Boys hiring her?

Speculation:

If NetWatch did indeed know of the chip and were after it well then when V confronts the NetWatch agent at the GIM he did not know V had it.

On the other hand if they did know they would be interested in it either because they would consider whatever the Voodoo Boys want to be bad news or if they knew what was on it they might even consider the Silverhand engram to be a dangerous AI in addition to that.

Perhaps if NetWatch did know they also wanted to use it to contact Alt.

Could this have been Yorinobus plan as Alt did say Arasaka had black ICE with her literal name on it. But then why steal it and not inform Hellman.

Well, what I took from the game was this chain of events:
Anders Hellman started to develop the prototype Biochip becaus Saburo ordered him to.
Yorinobu asked Anders about the Biochip, how to store it, and so on.
Yorinobu then put JS engram on the chip, stole it and moved to Night City.
Once there, he contacted NetWatch to sell them the Chip, after that he contacted his father, told him that he wanted to meet, if and Saburo continued to ignore him, he would sell the chip.
During this, Yori started using Clouds as an escort-service, with Evelyn as his regular visitor. This is when she overheard (or read about) the relic.
The VDB, constantly spying on NetWatch, learned about the JS engram and the relic, and hired Evelyn.

Evelyn then came up with the plan to betray everyone, steal from Yori, have NetWatch deal with VDB, use a fixer to hire Mercs and then use the Mercs to cut out the fixer. Leaving her with the money.

I think Yori wanted NetWatch to fix the chip, maybe to download JS into his body? It seems that he saw Johnny as a fellow enemy of Arasaka, one of the few who could actually bring it down. How he wanted to do that, I don't know.

NetWatch would have been interested in the Relic because it promises eternal life, whoever controls that technology is going to be very powerfull.
As to why the Agent didn't know that V had it, well, as far as they know, whoever stole it was killed, Evelyn was killed, and the relic is back with Arasaka.
Why we didn't have the chance to bring it up with the Agent is .... a plothole?

Anders Hellman wasn't important to Yori. Anders told Saburo about the theft and because of that feared that Yori would kill him as well.
 
I would have liked maybe some more interactions with the netwatch maybe slowly siding with them instead of vodoo boys.
Netwatch is just something in the background that get almost no info on.
 
Spoilers obviously so please don't read beyond.

Chain of events:

Yorinobu Arasaka stole the prototype improved biochip with the aid of Anders Hellman.

The Voodoo Boys hired Evelyn Parker to make a virtu of Yorinobus hotel room so that they could steal the biochip, they knew it had Johnny Silverhands engram on it and wanted to use him to contact Alt Cunningham.

Evelyn was aware they were after the biochip.

She doublecrossed them and went to Dexter Deshawn with a plan to sell it to NetWatch. She told him that was Yorinobus plan.

Questions this prompts:

What was Yorinobu doing with the biochip and why was Silverhands engram on it? Hellman its inventor did not know about this when V tells him at the Sunset Motel.

Was he planning to sell it to NetWatch as Evelyn claimed and why because as an Arasaka he surely did not want for money?

How did the Voodoo Boys find out about the biochip and that it contained Silverhands engram?

How did Evelyn know about the biochip and that it was the reason for the Voodoo Boys hiring her?

Speculation:

If NetWatch did indeed know of the chip and were after it well then when V confronts the NetWatch agent at the GIM he did not know V had it.

On the other hand if they did know they would be interested in it either because they would consider whatever the Voodoo Boys want to be bad news or if they knew what was on it they might even consider the Silverhand engram to be a dangerous AI in addition to that.

Perhaps if NetWatch did know they also wanted to use it to contact Alt.

Could this have been Yorinobus plan as Alt did say Arasaka had black ICE with her literal name on it. But then why steal it and not inform Hellman.

In the first johnny flashback we saw Emperor Saburo say that the dead talk more than the living. He used soulkiller on johnny to try to interrogate him due to nuking night city / arasaka tower. Yorinobu more than likely knew about silverhand being an engram inside Mikoshi due to being one of the leading forces of the factions within Arasaka itself. Yorinobu wanted control of the company and stealing his old man's pet project of a version of the relic containing silverhand's engram would cause a reaction out of Dad, hence meeting at Konpeki Plaza. The core purpose of the relic from an advertising standpoint is to interact or talk with said engram. With Silverhand not only being a famous rockerboy, he was the man they caught on the way out who was involved with nuking in 2023. Now the version of the relic Yorinobu stole was an experimental version that he did not more than likely know the purpose of, but Hellman did since he designed it. When you meet him and track him down, he says that Arasaka's prized tech really is in the street. A version of the relic that reanimates the dead or its original purpose was just to take over the empty shell. We just happened to die to cause it to activate thanks to a bullet from Dex. But Hellman probably did not know what construct was supposed to be on it. And Silverhand is the worst possible person to be out in the wild because that is a direct threat to Arasaka. Really surprised there isn't a terrorist ending where you can nuke the tower a 2nd time instead of just going in gung ho from the front door in the Don't Fear The Reaper Ending.

VDB and Netwatch are at war with each other due to being that the VDB's run on their own version of the net that Netwatch can't touch or see meaning Netwatch is deprived of info that they very much want and need since they monitor the current form of the internet as a security agency. The VDB's know about the black wall and Mikoshi beforehand so once the Relic was advertised they probably did digging into the product and maybe they did some hacking to find files or documents about the experimental relic. Wouldn't surprise me since they are netrunners people don't want to mess with.

Evelyn knew about the biochip because she said that her and Yorinobu have a business relationship. (Not so subtly put she is his joytoy obviously from the BD she scrolled) Only when the VDB's asked for the the BD recording she revealed she knew too much. Hence why her neural processor got fried and was sent to Fingers pronounced MIA. Also since Evelyn wanted you to haze the fixer being Dex (a story branch you can not make happen) my guess is that she was going to sell it to netwatch because she said that you will have enough eddies for life. Netwatch having arasaka alpha tech of the relic would really be bad for Arasaka and that would essentially make Evelyn a middleman in some corporate sabotage. Also to tack on to the scarcity of the knowledge of this exact relic in V's head The VDB's own Placide didn't even know about the relic. Someone directly tied to Brigitte and this contract did not know about it. Only those who work in the crypt where their netrunning goes on which leaded you to the 2nd johnny cutscene seemed to know about the relic. Also not sure if Netwatch wanted to get beyond or set free the ai beyond the blackwall. I think they would want to keep the rouge ai off the net because it would wreak havoc on the net. If you haven't done the peralez side quest chain I suggest you do very good.

This is just my two cents. Not sure if it's completely right.
 
The answer is depend on if you believe the NPC in game have reason and intelligence and plan.
Any information need be check for facticity.

Yorinobu steal the chip, so what's his plan?

Bargain with Saburo like someone said above?
Do you really believe Saburo is someone who would bargain with Yorinobu?
No he won't.

So he try to lure Saburo and murder him?
Do you really believe Saburo would came to talk instead of catch Yorinobu back?
I know it happened, but think about the chance, Saburo have many choice to end this little rebel.
And If it's true, why Yorinobu looks so confused after murder Saburo?
No the murder is out of plan obviously.

That's means we can believe that he do want to sell it to Netwatch.
For what?
Yorinobu have endless money, what can Netwatch trade? He is finding something Arasaka can't give him.
If Netwatch is one of the Corp, they should know how far Saburo wants to go, that's means they know it's risk.
So what's the truth of this deal?

IMO, What Yorinobu want is the revive of Johnny and the straight conflict between Arasaka and Netwatch, which have a good chance to lead the CorpWar.
To Netwatch, they face the risk of war, the tech of biochip is not worth enough since the biochip is incompleted.
So Yorinobu give them a better price, the engram of Johnny, which could lead their way to find Alt.

At high level intelligence, the deal is an open conspiracy, they know it have risk but no one can refuse the price.

Base on this theory, VDB know the chips because of Netwatch. They are fighting. It's nothing strange that VDB steal the information about Yorinobu's deal, then try to intercept and capture Johnney. That's also the reason of why didn't VDB just connect Yorinobu and give a better price, because they can't, it's not about money or tech.

Evelyn, involve this as the agent of VDB. I believe she was setted greater but cut to lesser person since they simplified the war between VDB and Netwatch.
 
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In the Arasaka ending, Suburo takes over Yorinobu's body using the Soulkiller tech. It is possible that Yorinobu knew of his father's quest for immortality and stole the Relic in an effort to stop that plan and to ensure his own move up the corporate ladder(Kill Suburo and take over Arasaka). While Suburu's original intent may not have been to take over his son's body, the opportunity presented itself with his son's betrayal. Sons rising to power by helping their fathers into early retirement through violence is not an uncommon event throughout history. That Johnny and Suburo had a personal history is likely why that particular engram was stolen, as bait to get Suburo's attention.

Evelyn's part seems smaller. The VDB knew she was a favorite joytoy of Yorinobu and used her as a way to get inside. Evelyn got greedy (and stupid) and got killed for her troubles. She was a bit player in something well beyond her and got in over her head. It doesn't matter if she got an offer from Netwatch, her greed is what's at play once she gets some idea of the value of the Relic. She could have been planning on holding out to the VBD for a higher price, or seeking another buyer. She dies before we can find out much about her real motivations.

Just like with us. We jumped into a game without seeing the full board, without even knowing who all the players were. Our aspirations for fame get us involved in the affairs of the really BIG players, and we get squashed under foot.
 
Why we didn't have the chance to bring it up with the Agent is .... a plothole?

You also never get to tell them what they did to Evelyn Parker or saying anything about payback. I think that is because as soon as you finish talking to Judy at Lizzy Wizzy you are contacted by Mr Hands and can immediately go to Pacifica without dealing with Judy and finding Evelyn and they didn't bother making different scenes for whether you did that before the Voodoo Boys.

I cant see Yorinobu downloading Silverhand into him, the only thing I can think of is that like the Voodoo Boys he wanted to use it to contact Alt.
 
Spoilers, obviously.

Very old thread but my take was that Yorinobu intends to destroy Arasaka and that that was always his intention. That he sees it as fundamentally evil. I'm not quite sure what we're seeing on the screens in the Arasaka tower at the end in the Arasaka ending, but at the very least it's clear he's disconnecting the various Arasaka outposts around the world. He may actually be destroying them.

As to what he wanted with the relic, specifically, my reading (I don't think it's explicitly stated so I may be inferring) was that Netwatch wanted Alt and so the motive for their wanting the chip was the same as the Voodoo Boys, and Yorinobu intends to use Netwatch (and possibly alt) finally to destroy Arasaka.

Not all of that is clearly stated. But the Arasaka ending makes borderline explicit from the moment you confront Yorinobu that in siding against him you've actually made a fundamental mistake, and that he was one of the good guys. It is Hanako and Saburo who are the villains, emperor from Star Wars style, and Yorinobu was trying to make sure they could not succeed.
 
Spoilers, obviously.

Very old thread but my take was that Yorinobu intends to destroy Arasaka and that that was always his intention. That he sees it as fundamentally evil. I'm not quite sure what we're seeing on the screens in the Arasaka tower at the end in the Arasaka ending, but at the very least it's clear he's disconnecting the various Arasaka outposts around the world. He may actually be destroying them.

As to what he wanted with the relic, specifically, my reading (I don't think it's explicitly stated so I may be inferring) was that Netwatch wanted Alt and so the motive for their wanting the chip was the same as the Voodoo Boys, and Yorinobu intends to use Netwatch (and possibly alt) finally to destroy Arasaka.

Not all of that is clearly stated. But the Arasaka ending makes borderline explicit from the moment you confront Yorinobu that in siding against him you've actually made a fundamental mistake, and that he was one of the good guys. It is Hanako and Saburo who are the villains, emperor from Star Wars style, and Yorinobu was trying to make sure they could not succeed.
Yep, I agree, it's absolutly what I'm thinking :)
When He said you :
"When even a nuclear bomb didn't work, the only solution is to become the bomb".
He want the same thing as Johnny, with different method, but it's to end his father madness :)
 
Spoilers obviously so please don't read beyond.

Chain of events:

Yorinobu Arasaka stole the prototype improved biochip with the aid of Anders Hellman.

The Voodoo Boys hired Evelyn Parker to make a virtu of Yorinobus hotel room so that they could steal the biochip, they knew it had Johnny Silverhands engram on it and wanted to use him to contact Alt Cunningham.

Evelyn was aware they were after the biochip.

She doublecrossed them and went to Dexter Deshawn with a plan to sell it to NetWatch. She told him that was Yorinobus plan.

Edit: Something I only picked up in a later playthrough is that Saburo tells Yorinobu he knows of his plan to sell the biochip to Westerners and Hellman told him of this.

Questions this prompts:

What was Yorinobu doing with the biochip and why was Silverhands engram on it? Hellman its inventor did not know about this when V tells him at the Sunset Motel.

Was he planning to sell it to NetWatch as Evelyn claimed, and Saburo said he knew of this intention, and why because as an Arasaka he surely did not want for money?

How did the Voodoo Boys find out about the biochip and that it contained Silverhands engram?

How did Evelyn know about the biochip and that it was the reason for the Voodoo Boys hiring her?

Speculation:

If NetWatch did indeed know of the chip and were after it well then when V confronts the NetWatch agent at the GIM he did not know V had it.

On the other hand if they did know they would be interested in it either because they would consider whatever the Voodoo Boys want to be bad news or if they knew what was on it they might even consider the Silverhand engram to be a dangerous AI in addition to that.

Perhaps if NetWatch did know they also wanted to use it to contact Alt.

Could this have been Yorinobus plan as Alt did say Arasaka had black ICE with her literal name on it. But then why steal it and not inform Hellman.
Hellman knew about the theft at the point of the braindance, but I'm not sure he helped him. In the call he seemed to be trying to get him to return it. Yorinobu is part of a major faction within Arasaka, so hellman probably would follow him as long as it doesn't directly go against saburo.

there is an email with yorinobu talking to netwatch. So this was his plan, probably. He wanted specific information from netwatch, but likely he probably also wanted to deal a blow to Arasaka. As for Johnny Silverhand, Yorinobu appreciated his existence. Yorinobu is not motivated by money, his entire adult life he has been trying to limit or eliminate saburo power over the world, and doesn't believe superpowerful multinational corporations should be free from government influence. Putting JS on the relic was an FU to saburo, but also had the potential to ressurect what yorinobu felt was a hero in the war against What his father stood for.

Netwatch would not be aware of what happened to the relic deal, most likely. The VDBs are a genius netrunning crew whose only known equals are netwatch themselves, but they enjoy and actively try to hack and exploit major corporations. They have an anti corporate culture. They likely found clues about what yorinobu was planning and hoped to intervene. However, it is of note that they never had formed a plan to get the relic. Evelyn was supposed to provide info, nothing more.
 
Hellman knew about the theft at the point of the braindance, but I'm not sure he helped him. In the call he seemed to be trying to get him to return it. Yorinobu is part of a major faction within Arasaka, so hellman probably would follow him as long as it doesn't directly go against saburo.

there is an email with yorinobu talking to netwatch. So this was his plan, probably. He wanted specific information from netwatch, but likely he probably also wanted to deal a blow to Arasaka. As for Johnny Silverhand, Yorinobu appreciated his existence. Yorinobu is not motivated by money, his entire adult life he has been trying to limit or eliminate saburo power over the world, and doesn't believe superpowerful multinational corporations should be free from government influence. Putting JS on the relic was an FU to saburo, but also had the potential to ressurect what yorinobu felt was a hero in the war against What his father stood for.

Netwatch would not be aware of what happened to the relic deal, most likely. The VDBs are a genius netrunning crew whose only known equals are netwatch themselves, but they enjoy and actively try to hack and exploit major corporations. They have an anti corporate culture. They likely found clues about what yorinobu was planning and hoped to intervene.
Yep, I agree for all :)
For Hellman, I could add, like we said in french :
"he had his ass between two chairs"
On one side Saburo and on the other Yorinobu... delicate situation indeed :D
However, it is of note that they never had formed a plan to get the relic. Evelyn was supposed to provide info, nothing more.
I think VDB will certainly plan to do their own "Heist", with the BD informations. Information they obviously never got :)
No infos > no plan > no heist.
 
Well, what I took from the game was this chain of events:
Anders Hellman started to develop the prototype Biochip becaus Saburo ordered him to.
Yorinobu asked Anders about the Biochip, how to store it, and so on.
Yorinobu then put JS engram on the chip, stole it and moved to Night City.
Once there, he contacted NetWatch to sell them the Chip, after that he contacted his father, told him that he wanted to meet, if and Saburo continued to ignore him, he would sell the chip.
During this, Yori started using Clouds as an escort-service, with Evelyn as his regular visitor. This is when she overheard (or read about) the relic.
The VDB, constantly spying on NetWatch, learned about the JS engram and the relic, and hired Evelyn.

Evelyn then came up with the plan to betray everyone, steal from Yori, have NetWatch deal with VDB, use a fixer to hire Mercs and then use the Mercs to cut out the fixer. Leaving her with the money.

I think Yori wanted NetWatch to fix the chip, maybe to download JS into his body? It seems that he saw Johnny as a fellow enemy of Arasaka, one of the few who could actually bring it down. How he wanted to do that, I don't know.

NetWatch would have been interested in the Relic because it promises eternal life, whoever controls that technology is going to be very powerfull.
As to why the Agent didn't know that V had it, well, as far as they know, whoever stole it was killed, Evelyn was killed, and the relic is back with Arasaka.
Why we didn't have the chance to bring it up with the Agent is .... a plothole?

Anders Hellman wasn't important to Yori. Anders told Saburo about the theft and because of that feared that Yori would kill him as well.

Yori didnt want saburo to know yet, hellman told saburo, hellman is a saburo faction loyalist it seems. saburo's diary mentions his trip. Saburo would be extremely concerned about this prototype getting out no matter who was on it, this according to hellman, was designed for only one person, Saburo. Netwatch was a surprise for V, and to be honest I don't know that V would trust them, also most of the info on Evelyn's deal with them comes after you investigate the netwatch guy's computer, so most V's would not know that netwatch is involved with the chip. There is a reference on yorinobu's computer if you are really investigating, but I think it was vague, until you know more about whats going on.

Evelyn was hired by VDBs before she was supposed to know about the relic. She figured out that's what the VDBs were probably after. Brigitte notes that Evelyn was too swift. I wonder if the VDBs altered Evelyn's chip so she would retain memories, and have control over her doll recordings, normally she should not retain knowledge. Either that or yorinobu had a specific relationship with EV, not as a doll. Its also possible that Judy hacked her doll chip, but giving Ev memories of every experience would be a double edged sword, not sure she would do it.
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You also never get to tell them what they did to Evelyn Parker or saying anything about payback. I think that is because as soon as you finish talking to Judy at Lizzy Wizzy you are contacted by Mr Hands and can immediately go to Pacifica without dealing with Judy and finding Evelyn and they didn't bother making different scenes for whether you did that before the Voodoo Boys.

I cant see Yorinobu downloading Silverhand into him, the only thing I can think of is that like the Voodoo Boys he wanted to use it to contact Alt.

as far as I know, you can't do VDB stuff in Pacifica until you finish Evelyn's quest. Evelyn's quest is what makes you ask for VDBs from Mr hand. The info that ev was likely double crossing VDBs and had a deal with netwatch comes from the netwatch guys computer.
 
My thoughts on the plot are:
Yorinobu discovered his father had hired Helleman to find away to take over his body using the Relic due to his Bio Compatibility. Saburo wanted to become immortal like in the Devil ending.
Yorinobu decided to make the 1st move by arranging a deal with Netwatch who want Johnny to somehow how contact Alt. This will increase their control of the blackwall to stop Rogue AI's from breaking through this would also increase netwatch's chances of stopping groups like the Voodoo boys . Voodoo boys get wind of this and hire Evelyn Parker to scope out the location and security for the Relic with johnny's Engram. So Evelyn gets Dex a washed up Fixer to get it. Dex hires V and Jackie.

The VDB's and Evelyn are just trying to move in on somebodyelses deal.

To me the main reason that Johnny is on the relic in the 1st place is Netwatch and Rogue AI's .
The Rogue Ai's get busy once you steal the Relic
Mayor Weldon Holt killed by someone who appears to be under some form of mind control.
Evelyn Parker goes mad and her brain gets fried we know this is not the VoodooBoys as we've already killed them.
Then Mayor Holt gets his brain fried .
The Peralez for Mayor thing starts as the AI's make a play knowing that Alt is off the board .

just a few theories probably wrong
 
Mayor Weldon Holt killed by someone who appears to be under some form of mind control.
Evelyn Parker goes mad and her brain gets fried we know this is not the VoodooBoys as we've already killed them.
Then Mayor Holt gets his brain fried .
Some precisions if you had miss them in the story ;)
- Evy wanted from the start to betray the VDBs and sell the biochip to Netwatch to leave Night City with Judy (message in Netwatch's computer).
- Evy was "toasted" in the Clouds way before you find the Voodoo boys (so you can't have kill them before). It's them who fried Evy chip in the Clouds via the Clouds Network. They had used probably the same "malware" that they use to toaste Netwatch guy (Bryce Mostley) and obviously you ("the one who swallows the light").
- It's not Weldon Holt who was murdered, It's Lucius Rhyne. He's Dead by a brain dance in the club "Red Queen's Race". Weldon Holt is "simply" Lucius Rhyne Bulldog before, and just a candidate to be mayor (facing Jefferson Peralez).

And more important, Johnny would never have helped Yorinobu, it's totally unthinkable :)

Don't worry, it's seems to be obvious when I said that, but it's not. It's (really) easy to miss some clues, evidences and other details. I could said, it's a good opportunity to replay Cyberpunk ;)
 
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Some precisions if you had miss them in the story ;)
- Evy wanted from the start to betray the VDBs and sell the biochip to Netwatch to leave Night City with Judy (message in Netwatch's computer).
- Evy was "toasted" in the Clouds way before you find the Voodoo boys (so you can't have kill them before). It's them who fried Evy chip in the Clouds via the Clouds Network. They had used probably the same "malware" that they use to toaste Netwatch guy (Bryce Mostley) and obviously you ("the one who swallows the light").
- It's not Weldon Holt who was murdered, It's Lucius Rhyne. He's Dead by a brain dance in the club "Red Queen's Race". Weldon Holt is "simply" Lucius Rhyne Bulldog before, and just a candidate to be mayor (facing Jefferson Peralez).

And more important, Johnny would never have helped Yorinobu, it's totally unthinkable :)

Don't worry, it's seems to be obvious when I said that, but it's not. It's (really) easy to miss some clues, evidences and other details. I could said, it's a good opportunity to replay Cyberpunk ;)
Sorry bout the rhyne holt mixup. Did you see them striking up a deal with the tigerclaws on the cctv in one of the rooms at Konpeki during the .

With the VDB's were they not out of action as Netwatch had captured Brigitte inside their network.

I know Johnny wouldn't deal with yorinobu thats why Yorinobu was being offloaded there may even be another Johnny backup inside Mikoshi as his engram is only data
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Also whoever was after Sandra Dorsett fits in somewhere too. Maybe manipulating you to do the Heist.
 
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Sorry bout the rhyne holt mixup. Did you see them striking up a deal with the tigerclaws on the cctv in one of the rooms at Konpeki during the .
I see them, but it's with Arasaka and not Tygers claw ;)
With the VDB's were they not out of action as Netwatch had captured Brigitte inside their network.
Evy was fried between V's arrival at Vick's and then leaving the apartment for the first time. Also way before Netwatch had captured Brigitte and T-Neptune.

Anyway, it sounds easy, but I've been playing it since day one and I have a few (maybe too many) hours of play behind me ;)
I have no merit to know a lot of history :D
 
I have more questions about the crew.

Did Dex know that the heist was going to go wrong anyway and that's why he hired two novice mercs? I assume it is, but this leads me to other questions:
  • Did Dex know that Evelyn was a puppet and the payment wouldn't come from her -this is quite obvious even when you have not seen TVB-? What was he planning to do with the Relic if everything had gone well?
  • What were the T-Bug intentions? Did she was aligned with Dex?
  • Why Evelyn chose Dex to find the crew? Why not another fixer with a better reputation? Was she planning to frame all the crew?
 
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