So.... it's 2 weeks to E3...

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Nope, I didn't said that (nor even thought) :(
TW2, you talk about The Witcher 2 ?
yes, but I was joking. It's probably not gonna happen.

Anyway, did you see that battlefield trailer? It looks a bit cyberpunk-ish to me. I wonder if cdpr ever thought about some sort of symbiosis with other games, if that's even possible from a technical perspective. Probably as much as unrealistic as TW2 on unreal engine 5, but there are some places in CP2077 that are labeled with A and B, similar to Counterstrike, and I always have to think about it when I see it...
 
yes, but I was joking. It's probably not gonna happen.

Anyway, did you see that battlefield trailer? It looks a bit cyberpunk-ish to me. I wonder if cdpr ever thought about some sort of symbiosis with other games, if that's even possible from a technical perspective. Probably as much as unrealistic as TW2 on unreal engine 5, but there are some places in CP2077 that are labeled with A and B, similar to Counterstrike, and I always have to think about it when I see it...
Nope I didn't see it, I'm mostly a solo player... so this kind of games didn't interest me that much (even at all).

Now yes, I just watch it :D
So the city, the desert, the sand storm, the elevator, the rocket,... now you said that, absolutely I see what do you mean.
Night City could be a great environment for a game like this. If CDPR wanted it, they would already have a great map quite ready or almost. I might even be tempted by a general battle like this in Night City :)

Big battles with Basilisks, Arasaka and Militech Robots and in the middle of all that, hundreds of mercs who get dropped in AV and shoot each other happily. Just saying it, makes you want to :D
 
In the current state of cyberpunk 2077 on my pc with a 3070 the experience has been fantastic. I speak for myself, I do not know what experience you have had and I agree that the game needs much more, but with what it has right now it surpasses all the games that E3 has shown. They seem like games made for child players or who do not mind having a portion of the same food as always. Have you seen games that surprise you? XD
Stalker 2 looked decent. The only game i liked. Poor E3.

What so adult at Cyberpunk 2077? The gameplay is so not challenging at all(made for casuals, kids), the adults elements so censored(V showered dressed and strippers are more dressed then i was this summer on the streets lol) .
 
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I guess storyline, subjects which touch topics like soul, life after death, faith, mental problems, human trafficing, lost, grief, loneliness etc. I know it might not be for everyone but for me it was a fantastic journey where you wanna think a lot. Its much more important than V`s underwear.... which you might remove by mod anyway).
 
Stalker 2 looked decent. The only game i liked. Poor E3.

What so adult at Cyberpunk 2077? The gameplay is so not challenging at all(made for casuals, kids), the adults elements so censored(V showered dressed and strippers are more dressed then i was this summer on the streets lol) .
Stalker 2 is exactly the same as metro exodus (I liked it for its story, graphics, and character quality). But all Stalker games are the same: radiation zone with mutants to kill .... kill and clear the map with a mediocre story, nothing that surprises me either in story or in gameplay, you know in advance that you are going to play and which is the end.

There is nothing surprising, all the games shown could be at E3 2015 and you would not notice.

I do not need to see nipples in a game, only interesting stories, I am a gamer with 30 years of experience in games, tired of eating the same food all the time. Why is there no explicit sex or naked women offering their bodies, the game is not adult? I do not want a pornographic game, it seems vulgar to me and it seems perfect that the developers do not focus their effort on those things. A mod is sure to give the nude dancers you want.

Cyberpunk 2077 asks for more things to do in Night City, more AI and more stories to tell and we are in those.

I'm just saying that after seeing at E3 what the video game industry is working on, I reaffirm my commitment to the talented CDPR workers and their effort to remedy and heal Cyberpunk 2077.
 
I guess storyline, subjects which touch topics like soul, life after death, faith, mental problems, human trafficing, lost, grief, loneliness etc. I know it might not be for everyone but for me it was a fantastic journey where you wanna think a lot. Its much more important than V`s underwear.... which you might remove by mod anyway).
I would also add doing a story where the character doesn't get a "saves the world,gets the money,get the boy/girl" ending is more adult (for me) than "boobs and blood".
 
Take Two's in E3 was so weak that CDPR's stock skyrocketed 8% in just this morning.
Stock is having a very good period few days now. I guess its mostly because of rumors of game coming back to PS store soon, seond season of Witcher on Netflix, Monster slayer relase coming soon and probably also acceptance that the worst period for CDP is behind now.
 
There is nothing surprising, all the games shown could be at E3 2015 and you would not notice.

I do not need to see nipples in a game, only interesting stories, I am a gamer with 30 years of experience in games, tired of eating the same food all the time. Why is there no explicit sex or naked women offering their bodies, the game is not adult? I do not want a pornographic game, it seems vulgar to me and it seems perfect that the developers do not focus their effort on those things. A mod is sure to give the nude dancers you want.

Cyberpunk 2077 asks for more things to do in Night City, more AI and more stories to tell and we are in those.

I'm just saying that after seeing at E3 what the video game industry is working on, I reaffirm my commitment to the talented CDPR workers and their effort to remedy and heal Cyberpunk 2077.
Although I didn't check all games on E3, my overall feeling was similar. Nothing really shines there for me, nothing very interesting / fresh / unique. It's just my subjective impression, but to me the gaming industry seems to be somehow stuck in place for a couple of years now, at least for AAA productions. In that regard, CP2077 still stands out: a captivating way of telling a story, unique atmosphere and consistent art direction. Open world aspect though - visually wonderful, but gameplay-wise: meh, could use some "enrichment".

As for nudity and "adult" part, I actually had a feeling that there was even a bit too much of it in the game. Too many sex-oriented ads and billboards around the city, some of them a bit too vulgar. Almost as if the residents didn't do anything else in this world. But it's just me.
 
Stock is having a very good period few days now. I guess its mostly because of rumors of game coming back to PS store soon, seond season of Witcher on Netflix, Monster slayer relase coming soon and probably also acceptance that the worst period for CDP is behind now.
It definitely helps there's no real major competition in horizon for the next half a year to a year.

Only thing I'm currently still interested seeing is Universim and Settlers, and whatever DLC they manage to pack in the Katana Zero... and maybe I'll check on Survivalists whenever it goes on sale.

Maybe I'll buy Switch Pro - portable at some point if and whenever that comes out and try the new Zelda, but that's gonna be like year - two from now.
 
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It definitely helps there's no real major competition in horizon for the next half a year to a year.

Only thing I'm currently still interested seeing is Universim and Settlers, and whatever DLC they manage to pack in the Katana Zero... and maybe I'll check on Survivalists whenever it goes on sale.

Maybe I'll buy Switch Pro - portable at some point if and whenever that comes out and try the new Zelda, but that's gonna be like year - two from now.
No competition will help the stock, but is likely to hurt innovation.
 
Stalker 2 is exactly the same as metro exodus (I liked it for its story, graphics, and character quality). But all Stalker games are the same: radiation zone with mutants to kill .... kill and clear the map with a mediocre story, nothing that surprises me either in story or in gameplay, you know in advance that you are going to play and which is the end.

There is nothing surprising, all the games shown could be at E3 2015 and you would not notice.

I do not need to see nipples in a game, only interesting stories, I am a gamer with 30 years of experience in games, tired of eating the same food all the time. Why is there no explicit sex or naked women offering their bodies, the game is not adult? I do not want a pornographic game, it seems vulgar to me and it seems perfect that the developers do not focus their effort on those things. A mod is sure to give the nude dancers you want.

Cyberpunk 2077 asks for more things to do in Night City, more AI and more stories to tell and we are in those.

I'm just saying that after seeing at E3 what the video game industry is working on, I reaffirm my commitment to the talented CDPR workers and their effort to remedy and heal Cyberpunk 2077.
Stalker has more atmosphere then Cyberpunk 2077. The A-Life AI is superior to Cyberpunk 2077's AI. The freedom(can kill any NPC) and uniqueness surpasses Cyberpunk 2077. The story goes on without needing your implication. Playing on harder difficulty is very immersive(both u and enemies become very deadly no more bullet sponges, headshot is a kill). And so one.
What's so adult about it? It is censored. No challenge what so ever(made for casuals and kids). The AI is dumb. The combat is mediocre. There is no deep philosophy present.
What is so unique about Cyberpunk 2077. A mediocre looter shooter. Pathologic, Soma, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, The Witness, Cry of Fear are far more original, interesting and good, more philosophical.
What more things to do. LOL. Outside quests there is nothing to do.
What AI? The AI is braindead.

The games are getting more dumb, casual, action, full of aids to help u finish game, online-battle royal, micro transactions garbage.
E3s are become less interesting as years go by.
 
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What AI? The AI is braindead.
That's unfortunately true, especially for the pedestrians (at least from my experience with the game). Recently I had this situation:
Stopped at a crosswalk for a minute and noticed that most of the ncps who crossed the street with me stopped on the other side, turned around and started waiting for the green light to show again. It appeared that there was a whole group of pedestrians who existed only around this cross walk and kept crossing it back and forth each time the green light showed. A small happy crosswalk society ;)
This isn't an exceptional situation in the game unfortunately. I noticed a lot of such things: npcs going towards a certain opening in a building, a bridge or even stairs and instead of moving on that way, they turn around and walk back from where they came. Looped artificial activity. Sure, it's nothing new in a game, but here it's somehow very noticeable. CP2077 keeps the illusion intact around you when you don't pay much attention to the "city life". Once you happen to do that, this illusion falls apart.
 
No competition will help the stock, but is likely to hurt innovation.
Sure it does.

Tesla would never have become so valuable if there was serious competition in the market for electric cars.
Competition often brings prices down.

If there was serious competitor to Facebook for example, it would have been more catastrophic for them to have that data breach couple months ago that leaked like 500 million peoples contact information, but because they're practically a monopoly, the stock didn't even flinch.

If there was 100 similar games like Cyberpunk, it would of course hurt the sales of Cyberpunk 2077 due to people having to choose which game to buy.

Heroes of the Storm was Blizzard MOBA which could be argued improved a lot on what MOBA games did wrong, creating less snowball, and having objective play with 5v5 fights. The reason why that game didn't turn out financial success was because of the competition. DotA, League of Legends, Smite, Battlerite, Infinite Crisis, Strife, Paragon, Arena of Valor...

If Blizzard had took note when the game was just WC3 mod and started seriously working on Heroes of the Storm, and release it same time with League of Legends, it would likely be most viewed game in Twitch today.
 
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Stalker has more atmosphere then Cyberpunk 2077. The A-Life AI is superior to Cyberpunk 2077's AI. The freedom(can kill any NPC) and uniqueness surpasses Cyberpunk 2077. The story goes on without needing your implication. Playing on harder difficulty is very immersive(both u and enemies become very deadly no more bullet sponges, headshot is a kill). And so one.
What's so adult about it? It is censored. No challenge what so ever(made for casuals and kids). The AI is dumb. The combat is mediocre. There is no deep philosophy present.
What is so unique about Cyberpunk 2077. A mediocre looter shooter. Pathologic, Soma, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, The Witness, Cry of Fear are far more original, interesting and good, more philosophical.
What more things to do. LOL. Outside quests there is nothing to do.
What AI? The AI is braindead.

The games are getting more dumb, casual, action, full of aids to help u finish game, online-battle royal, micro transactions garbage.
E3s are become less interesting as years go by.
I think that many of the differences in our opinions are also based on the fact that we have different tastes for games.

Radioactive atmospheres do not tell me anything, killing an NPC while talking to me does not give me anything.

I agree with you that artificial intelligence and difficulty need to be improved in Cyberpunk. It was his first game in the first person and there will surely be a progression in future works.

I have seen few such good games in their history as this one, Metro exodus also seemed like a very good job, the immersion in it was very good also because the characters and the story were very good.

I admit that I have very positive feelings with Cyberpunk, it admits improvement and progression, but the starting point is good and CDPR is going to work hard on it. Maybe in a couple of years we will be closer in our opinions, only CDPR has the capacity to make it possible.

What innovation does the games at this E3 bring to the players? I would say nothing. And I'm glad CDPR's stock are up.
 
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