Could not be more clear...
OK so was poor continuity including scenes in the 6 months that your character did not actually take part in, and all the little things that don't make sense are just mistakes. HmmCould not be more clear...
That was not be changed and nor planned for been playable from the very beginning
so he took influence on the game - and this example might not be the only thing which changed for/with him.
That you don't believe him, it's not the same thing
Trailers... work in progress... try to not spoil the game...
Keanu did influence the game for sure. Like Jacky drives an Arc instead the Quattro Turbo V-Tec which was promoted in several trailers and would have made perfect sense if V got it after his death.
But since Keanu joined he drives the Arc - which is oh wonder Keanus RL motorcycle brand.
Keanu pretty sure is a testemonial in CP77. Things would have been different without him. Also after the marketing and launch I wouldnt believe everything they say now... but each for his own in this regard. Trust is hard to regain. At least for me.
Never said that - just said Keanu beeing a part of CP77 influenced the game nothing more nothing less - at that’s just an objective fact. No?
I agree.
Yes, but looking at a lot of things in TW3 compared to CP. They use the same basic idea right. I agree that you have the traffic system, which we obviously didn't have in TW3. But as far as I remember, they said one of the big challenges is to make the game in the vertical direction rather than a "flat" plane. But I don't really get this, because if I recall correctly, NPCs never uses elevators, they are always stuck to one plane anyway.And if you compare Assassin Creed license (I haven't play Valhalla, I wait for a low price... I like those games, but not for €60+).
So for me, Valhalla is an "upgraded" version of Odyssey, itself was an "upgraded" version of Origins. In my opinion, it's way more easy to start from a previous game than start from nothing. And speaking about horses, when like me, you came from RDR2 and after that you play Odyssey, you could wonder how it's possible to have worse horses than that... For me, they could hardly to be worst (at the point that I had never used them once in the whole game, better to just run)
Obviously management, they are the ones running the show, the marketing department as everything one else, do what they are being told. And again, its undoubtful to think that material like gameplay videos, trailers etc. released to the public is not approved before shown.
It does seem to be a huge issue in the industry, at least in the AAA studios. I know we say CDPR shouldn't be like that, but if I recall correctly, TW3 were also really bugged at launched. I first played it years later, so I don't know if that is true, only what people have said.
I don't think that is true, CDPR had a good or solid foundation. Even the TW3 sold quite good, with the TV show creating new hype and also CP creating attention for TW3 automatically as it is occasionally mentioned as a great game in that material.
That is one makes me wonder, the future setting if we are just talking the visual thing, its not really connected to the AI. Its still just 2 legged humans walking around. Even the TW3 you had creatures that you fly and land, and run around to the take flight again. You have nothing like that in CP. Driving could obviously require some time and is new for them, and even though the driving isn't perfect, I honestly think the biggest problem with it is not the driving itself, but rather the mini map not zooming and the lack of a guide on the ground. Which we know they can do, because they actually use it in the game already. I would say the same goes with the shooting, some might not think its the best, but I honestly think it works fine and is not one of the things I would point out as being broken, some of the weapon mechanics might, but as a shooter I think it does a fine job. The customizable protagonist, I don't think is considered a highly advanced feature in games today, even lots of smaller studios, including indie developers uses this. FP is obviously new for them, but still whether your character walk up to a trader in 3rd person and you click trade or if its in FP, a lot of these things are the same, so its mostly in regards to combat and moving around the city as I see it. Because you character still have a 3rd person representation in the game, we have seen that. And also people have made a mod where you can move around in 3rd person.
Do I recall incorrectly, then I remember that people would jump out of the way from you when on horse?
Yeah would agree, Johnny seems to play a huge role, its difficult to know if it was always intended or not. Very little information have been shared about this from what I could find out.
And others have said that they started to rework huge part of the story in 2018, but whether that was due to him or not, again not a lot of information regarding this is out there.
Why would it be that?
Its not a clickbait, its just a collection of what CDPR have said, compared to footages of the game. The creator of the video, doesn't say anything themselves, but rather have collected all sorts of material from other people, CDPR, from the game etc. And lets be honest, these are actual footage from stuff people have experienced, so its not exactly unfair
Because everything is totally different. The game is a 1-st person and the way of storytelling and quest are reflecting it. Crowd/different NPC behavior, verticality, cars, police, totally different combat system. The only thing in common is that both games are made by CDPR
I agree.
Yes, but looking at a lot of things in TW3 compared to CP. They use the same basic idea right. I agree that you have the traffic system, which we obviously didn't have in TW3. But as far as I remember, they said one of the big challenges is to make the game in the vertical direction rather than a "flat" plane. But I don't really get this, because if I recall correctly, NPCs never uses elevators, they are always stuck to one plane anyway.
I don't get why you think the horses in AC is bad? I remember that in Odyssey they increased in deep rather fast which could lead to some Grand theft horsy in the streets, but besides that. Besides that they seem improved in Valhalla in my opinion.
Obviously management, they are the ones running the show, the marketing department as everything one else, do what they are being told. And again, its undoubtful to think that material like gameplay videos, trailers etc. released to the public is not approved before shown.
It does seem to be a huge issue in the industry, at least in the AAA studios. I know we say CDPR shouldn't be like that, but if I recall correctly, TW3 were also really bugged at launched. I first played it years later, so I don't know if that is true, only what people have said.
I don't think that is true, CDPR had a good or solid foundation. Even the TW3 sold quite good, with the TV show creating new hype and also CP creating attention for TW3 automatically as it is occasionally mentioned as a great game in that material.
That is one makes me wonder, the future setting if we are just talking the visual thing, its not really connected to the AI. Its still just 2 legged humans walking around. Even the TW3 you had creatures that you fly and land, and run around to the take flight again. You have nothing like that in CP. Driving could obviously require some time and is new for them, and even though the driving isn't perfect, I honestly think the biggest problem with it is not the driving itself, but rather the mini map not zooming and the lack of a guide on the ground. Which we know they can do, because they actually use it in the game already. I would say the same goes with the shooting, some might not think its the best, but I honestly think it works fine and is not one of the things I would point out as being broken, some of the weapon mechanics might, but as a shooter I think it does a fine job. The customizable protagonist, I don't think is considered a highly advanced feature in games today, even lots of smaller studios, including indie developers uses this. FP is obviously new for them, but still whether your character walk up to a trader in 3rd person and you click trade or if its in FP, a lot of these things are the same, so its mostly in regards to combat and moving around the city as I see it. Because you character still have a 3rd person representation in the game, we have seen that. And also people have made a mod where you can move around in 3rd person.
The RPG mechanics are there, especially all the abilities, the stats themselves shouldn't cause a lot of issues, if a weapon does 5 damage or 5 + (Player strength) + (Weapon mod) ought to be much the same right.
Given that TW3 in my opinion is far more complexed than CP is in technical terms. Im starting to think that a lot of the issue might have been with the development of the new engine, rather than CP itself. Because it still to me, seems weird, how they haven't been able to make the NPC AI more advanced or the police system. Because if we really cut into the bones with the police, they are as basic as the can be, to the point where they don't really have much of an AI.
Do I recall incorrectly, then I remember that people would jump out of the way from you when on horse?
Yeah would agree, Johnny seems to play a huge role, its difficult to know if it was always intended or not. Very little information have been shared about this from what I could find out.
And others have said that they started to rework huge part of the story in 2018, but whether that was due to him or not, again not a lot of information regarding this is out there.
Why would it be that?
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Its not a clickbait, its just a collection of what CDPR have said, compared to footages of the game. The creator of the video, doesn't say anything themselves, but rather have collected all sorts of material from other people, CDPR, from the game etc. And lets be honest, these are actual footage from stuff people have experienced, so its not exactly unfair
For me a world doesn't really feel alive just because there is a lot of people in it, yes I agree if you just run around without interacting with anyone, then the illusion works. But for instance, as also shown in the video, the police doesn't react to enemies, even if they shoot them, they just stand there looking like zombies. They only react to the player or if they are scripted to attack a certain enemy. Another example also shown in the video, is how the police is just shooting you no matter what if you get a crime rate. Whereas in games from 2002, 2006 they will actually pull you out of the car or tackle you and arrest you. In CP they could use a stun gun or whatever. The police have two options, "Do nothing" or "Kill player". That is not believable, that people just sit there when you pull a gun at them or go sit next to the car.
And I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, but its also much older than CP is. But it not like you look at CP and say, "Damn that is so amazing NPC AI", because they are pretty much like zombies. Given how much newer CP is and them talking about how advanced this whole crowd system and believable it is, it just feels wrong. Because you would expect that they would be able to handle more NPCs, but also that they would behave more realistic compared to TW3.
Yes, but these are not loaded. Its no different than you can run from one end of AC: Valhalla to the other and there will be no loading screen. Yet, trees, plants, buildings, NPCs, animals, fish, birds and what other clutter is there is constantly being loaded. Also lots of the buildings in CP, are just "boxes" with textures on, there is nothing in them. But I do agree, that the world is dense in a lot of places and it looks cool. But they have ways of not loading everything at once.
Yes, I played it on Very hard.
It also means 10x more 2 legged humans walking around.
Highly advanced? No. However, making the story-driven RPG with customizable protagonist is still new for them (even if said protagonist is not a blank slate).
1st person perspective during conversations requires a lot more work on body and facial animations than classic 3rd person cutscene does.
There are skillchecks in conversations and exploration, builds having greater effect in gameplay as well as lethal vs non-lethal approaches.
Nope, they never register your movement until you collide with them:
...well maybe each npc should have an individual level, but that may be too much. But granting strength based on how big someone else is....especially in a CP77 world where there is so much cyberware...really?
Now I understand why are people complaining about the police AI. If it is indeed so, then that is a problem.
