I do feel the show fell a bit flat in some key areas, but I didn't dislike it. It had some really great moments and was enjoyable to watch.
I simply hope the tighten up the story structure, drop the exposition, and maybe follow more of a chronology this time. It's one thing to jump around in a time line here and there for some dramatic effect...it's another altogether to try to introduce a fantasy setting and plotline this complex while utterly ignoring all unity of time and place -- especially if there are not going to be even clear, visual clues to identify the different periods.
I simply hope the tighten up the story structure, drop the exposition, and maybe follow more of a chronology this time. It's one thing to jump around in a time line here and there for some dramatic effect...it's another altogether to try to introduce a fantasy setting and plotline this complex while utterly ignoring all unity of time and place -- especially if there are not going to be even clear, visual clues to identify the different periods.
Its coming out tomorrow!
As a huge fan of the books and games, i personally didnt like the 1st season at all, with the exception of a few characters and aspects.
But im still quite excited for this 2nd season, i have high hopes for huge improvements, and the reception it got so far (by critics who got early access) has supported these expectations.
The 2nd season will focus more on Geralt and Ciri, and will introduce our beloved other wolf school witcher trio: Lambert, Eskel and Papa Vesemir.
And on the Gwent side, to mark the occasion, (shameless plug time
) i will make a special deck featuring all these characters and theme, coming out tomorrow too:
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As a huge fan of the books and games, i personally didnt like the 1st season at all, with the exception of a few characters and aspects.
But im still quite excited for this 2nd season, i have high hopes for huge improvements, and the reception it got so far (by critics who got early access) has supported these expectations.
The 2nd season will focus more on Geralt and Ciri, and will introduce our beloved other wolf school witcher trio: Lambert, Eskel and Papa Vesemir.
And on the Gwent side, to mark the occasion, (shameless plug time
) i will make a special deck featuring all these characters and theme, coming out tomorrow too:
Deck of the Day
It includes all 3 versions of Saskia, because why not? Saesenthessis: Blaze cries in shame.
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I strongly disliked and even laughed at (quite hard) Season 1. That being said, I'm looking forward to S2 and the witcher lore finally making a proper appearance
To be honest, although I am quite fond of the games, and enjoy many parts of the books, all the previews and fragments I have caught from the Netflix adaptation have failed to pique my interest. Something about the style and aesthetic doesn't quite 'click' with my vision of the Witcher's world. I may watch it, some day, out of mere curiosity, but it remains rather a low priority.
The aesthetics are indeed horrid (looks like Geralt is wearing the carnival costume version of the Kaer Morhen armor, he's clearly wearing a wig and DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING CONTACT LENSES IN THIS SHOW
). Many of the actors chosen look nothing like their game AND book counterparts (looking at you Triss and Yen). The show is just too colorful when the World of The Witcher is anything but. Hell, the show is even unintentionally campy lol. And after watching The Tudors, now I'm convinced Henry Cavill would've actually made a great Geralt if he acted like his character in that showNot gonna watch it, don't even have the Netflix account and everything I've seen and heard about the series makes my skin crawl, but I hope that those who found enjoyment in first season enjoy the one even more.
So yeah, hard pass, but you do you.
So yeah, hard pass, but you do you.
Even if the first season 1 was not the "greatest" show that I ever watched, but I watched some worse ones for sure... So I'll watch the second season, no doubt
Same here.
I wouldn't be interested in giving it a chance even if I had a Netflix account, because everything I've seen or heard about it seems to clash with what I think the universe is or what it should be like.
Even the very premise of a TV series doesn't really sit right with me, not that I really know why. Possibly because there already exist excellent games based on the novels, and that fills the "visual" role that otherwise could "belong to" the series (not that it would exist if the games didn't).
I really enjoy the TV series. I actually like how fun and light it is. Plus Henry Cavill's absolute nerdiness about the show is appreciated; you can tell he cares and takes ownership of the role on a level that's really rare in the industry.
I'm not sure if I'd be too into the books though. Heard there's a big discrepancy between the way women are described compared with men. Like, objectified to an unnecessarily creepy degree*. So from that point of view I'm glad to have a version of the story run by a female writer.
*Interesting thread about it on Reddit
I'm not sure if I'd be too into the books though. Heard there's a big discrepancy between the way women are described compared with men. Like, objectified to an unnecessarily creepy degree*. So from that point of view I'm glad to have a version of the story run by a female writer.
*Interesting thread about it on Reddit
There are worse shows to be sure... at least I'm getting a kind of enjoyment from this one, it is entertaining and unintentionally funny, which is more than what can be said about others I could mentionEven if the first season 1 was not the "greatest" show that I ever watched, but I watched some worse ones for sure... So I'll watch the second season, no doubt
I watched the first 4 episodes of season one when it came out and stopped. Another IP completely ruined, it's worthless.
Why do you people have to vandalize existing art instead of making your own?
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Why do you people have to vandalize existing art instead of making your own?
Good to hear. Maybe I'll do some binge watching tonight, since I'm taking a couple of days off.
To the Witcher folks who like the books / games, but are troubled by the deviations in the Netflix series: I understand completely. The departures are odd, and don't add anything positive, or even reduce confusion regarding missing background material, as far as I can figure. I'm the same way about Tolkien's work. I despise the Peter Jackson LoTR movies more than I can put into words without getting banned. I watched each of them once, and never will again, even if I'm at a friend's house and that's what they have on.
However, last year's episodes are somewhat entertaining as a stand alone loose derivative. Not great, but enough that it's worth watching, at least for me. I just think of it as a DC or Marvel Comics sort of thing: every character has at least a dozen different and conflicting story lines, which each have to be treated as a separate reality.
To the Witcher folks who like the books / games, but are troubled by the deviations in the Netflix series: I understand completely. The departures are odd, and don't add anything positive, or even reduce confusion regarding missing background material, as far as I can figure. I'm the same way about Tolkien's work. I despise the Peter Jackson LoTR movies more than I can put into words without getting banned. I watched each of them once, and never will again, even if I'm at a friend's house and that's what they have on.
However, last year's episodes are somewhat entertaining as a stand alone loose derivative. Not great, but enough that it's worth watching, at least for me. I just think of it as a DC or Marvel Comics sort of thing: every character has at least a dozen different and conflicting story lines, which each have to be treated as a separate reality.
I recall he spoke about his relationship with the character, the games, and the world during the recent WitcherCon. I was not unfavorably impressed by his remarks, as he appears to have some regard for the material. Also, apparently, he plays Gwent.
Same here. The less said about them, the better, I say.
What do you mean "you people"? I'm not involved in the Witcher TV series (though I'd love to be).
And since when was bringing up a valid criticism the same as vandalism? Sheesh, you've just made a criticism of your own in the same post. It's not an act of vandalism to criticise a book or make a TV adaptation
You can still buy the books. In fact, haven't book sales gone up because of this show?? That's hardly vandalism.
I get what you're saying but good artists copy, great artists steal
What do you mean "you people"? I'm not involved in the Witcher TV series (though I'd love to be).
And since when was bringing up a valid criticism the same as vandalism? Sheesh, you've just made a criticism of your own in the same post. It's not an act of vandalism to criticise a book or make a TV adaptation
You can criticize a realistic depiction of the late middle-ages all you want, but don't then market your fan-fiction as an adaptation. The only thing adapted from the books was character names to trick people into watching that garbage.
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The only thing they stole was character names. There's a great video about the episode "lesser evil" that perfectly illustrates how the people writing that trash COMPLETELY missed the point. They don't even understand what they are adapting.
In fact, here it is.
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I disagree but I will say Return of the King should have NEVER won the Oscar for Best Movie in a year that saw films such as Monster and Mystic River
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I should have clarified: the Picasso quote applies ONLY if you make something better than the original, which this show has obviously failed to do