@PhreakyPharaoh @damo404 Are there AI levels? Meaning some guy from White Orchard is more stupid than, let's say, someone in Novigrad? Or the AI is universal - one for all? How does that work?
Every time I challange someone, I got my ass kicked. And then, I challange them again, so I can get my ass kicked again and again and again.... The AI allways have one or two cards better than my best ones for the last round.
Quite liking the Gwent game at the moment.
It seems quite basic but theres actually quite a bit of strategy involved.
I play the default deck, northern realms, but have aquired most of the cards for it so far.
I find weather cards are very useful in the begnning but as you play harder opponents they become less important (though still useful) due to the no effect on hero cards.
My leader is the first one, it lets me play a fog card from anywhere in my side deck, for this reason, when given the option to swap cards at the start you should always swap out a fog card if you draw one because you will be able to play this anyway. Also, for cards in my deck i try to stick to mostly siege and close, this means i can play the fog and reduce damage from ranged without affecting my own cards too much.
My deck focuses on more cards. The strategy goes like this. 2 spy cards (more if i can find them) which get placed on the opponents battlefield, effectively doing damage back at you. I then also have 2 medics and 2-3 decoys. This makes it so that you very often get a mix of those cards. ideally 1 spy, 1-2 decoy and both medics. I place the spy and receive two cards in return. sometimes they will place their own spy or will pick yours up and play, if this happens i use my decoy to play it back again, if not i keep my decoy for rounds 2 and 3. the first round i almost always lose and just use it to gain a card advantage. during my "spying" they are wasting cards on me while im gaining more, by round 2 i have card advantage.
To end round 1 i will use a couple of my big "common" cards (play as many big cards as you have medics, we will be bringing them back next round), that is not heros. This is just to draw more cards from the opponent, they will either use their big cards to keep up, or if you pass they willl then use a lot of their small-medium cards to take the win. on occasion they will just pass and give the round to you which gives you a full deck to just tear them apart on the next round. moving on...
To start round two I will play my medic cards which will then let me bring those big cards back from the discard pile. If i do have any decoys left I can then usse them on my medic and play them again to bring more cards back but i will sometimes leave his to replay my best cards in round 3.
Sometimes I will test the water with any small cards first just to get an idea of what tactics they may play, but usually ill just come staright out strong. This is where its good to have a clear weather card or two, if they do rain you out then you need to either clear it or change your play to a different line. Heroes are also really good for this as they are unaffected by weather. For this reason i will sometimes play a Niilfgarden deck with similar tactics as i have 5 hero cards for this deck now.
Quick note, when playing cards from the discard pile, try and stick to the same type, or limit it to two.
If you do have 2 medics, its a good idea to try and leave on in your hand... which brings us to round 3.
for round 3, if you do have a medic in your hand you can use it, bring back your other medic, then bring back another big card, effectively playing 3 cards in one go. You can then decoy these if you hve any left and bring more of your big cards. then just smash the rest of your cards out, always good to have a commanders horn saved for round 3 so dot use them all up in round 2 just in case the opponent has some tricks up their sleeve. Ive often had times where ive had to play a biting frost weather card just to drop the opponents damage, but also making all my cards near worthless, then playing a commanders horn on my single 6 powered ranged card to double it for the win.
As with any strategy game, everything is going to depend on what cards you draw and what cards the opponent plays. but this strategy works out pretty well 90% of the time, even before I had the hero cards Id gone straight to novrigard to start challenging everyone who had decks much better than mine and i still creamed them.
Quick tip, some great cards are the ones that double in power when placed together, (providing their base damage is 4 or more), coupled with a commanders horn. two 4 power cards become 32 power very quickly. Nilfgaarden has some weaker versions but can have up to 4 in a deck so more likely to get the coupling.
For the rest of my deck:
In my deck i will have one of each weather card, the 2 decoys, 2 clear weather cards and 3 commanders horns.
When given the option to redraw at the start of the match i try to focus on only two main attackers (siege and close, close and ranged, ranged an siege etc) depending on what cards ive drawn, so if i have some good siege cards and good close cards then i will swap my lowest ranged cards in hope for my key cards (decoys, spies etc). rounds 2 and 3 I just hammer the opponent, I try to use one or the other of my attacking cards but always be weary of weather, i have gained some heroes so this lets me save rounds where i might otherwise be flooded out, and always save a clear weather card for when you need it if you can. Also dont play your weather cards against the opponent until your sure. you may be able to beat them by placing a commanders horn after theyve passed, it also lets them waste more cards in that position by placing it at the end, just be aware that they may hold clear weather cards aswell. oh, also if they play a weather card on you you can clear it and still place a weather card on them towards the end of the round. AI seems to often play their weather cards in earlier rounds so be prepared to change up your offence, by round 3 it wont matter as much just make sure your not going to cripple yourself by playing a weather card against them, though by using this strategy you will usually have extra cards to play at the end then they do.
Tips for certain players,
monster decks can be a pain, when im knowingly playing against a monster deck i will swap out all weather cards for just biting frost, they are usually very full of close quarters and can play cards from the side deck and very quickly become very overpowering, even with a biting frost, a monster deck with 10 cards down and a commanders horn will still do 2 damage per card and many of those cards will also bring a siege or ranged card to the table aswell.
Soi'catel (however its spelt) have cards that can choose between ranged or close, AI seems to favour the ranged slot in these cases though so wait for them to use them then smash a fog card to reduce them all to 1, playing the weather too early means they can just choose to play a different slot.
Niilfgarden and northern realms are pretty similar, can help to bring all 3 decoys against either of these decks as they will often play spies aswell, being able to pick them up and play them back can help keep the advantage.
It seems quite basic but theres actually quite a bit of strategy involved.
I play the default deck, northern realms, but have aquired most of the cards for it so far.
I find weather cards are very useful in the begnning but as you play harder opponents they become less important (though still useful) due to the no effect on hero cards.
My leader is the first one, it lets me play a fog card from anywhere in my side deck, for this reason, when given the option to swap cards at the start you should always swap out a fog card if you draw one because you will be able to play this anyway. Also, for cards in my deck i try to stick to mostly siege and close, this means i can play the fog and reduce damage from ranged without affecting my own cards too much.
My deck focuses on more cards. The strategy goes like this. 2 spy cards (more if i can find them) which get placed on the opponents battlefield, effectively doing damage back at you. I then also have 2 medics and 2-3 decoys. This makes it so that you very often get a mix of those cards. ideally 1 spy, 1-2 decoy and both medics. I place the spy and receive two cards in return. sometimes they will place their own spy or will pick yours up and play, if this happens i use my decoy to play it back again, if not i keep my decoy for rounds 2 and 3. the first round i almost always lose and just use it to gain a card advantage. during my "spying" they are wasting cards on me while im gaining more, by round 2 i have card advantage.
To end round 1 i will use a couple of my big "common" cards (play as many big cards as you have medics, we will be bringing them back next round), that is not heros. This is just to draw more cards from the opponent, they will either use their big cards to keep up, or if you pass they willl then use a lot of their small-medium cards to take the win. on occasion they will just pass and give the round to you which gives you a full deck to just tear them apart on the next round. moving on...
To start round two I will play my medic cards which will then let me bring those big cards back from the discard pile. If i do have any decoys left I can then usse them on my medic and play them again to bring more cards back but i will sometimes leave his to replay my best cards in round 3.
Sometimes I will test the water with any small cards first just to get an idea of what tactics they may play, but usually ill just come staright out strong. This is where its good to have a clear weather card or two, if they do rain you out then you need to either clear it or change your play to a different line. Heroes are also really good for this as they are unaffected by weather. For this reason i will sometimes play a Niilfgarden deck with similar tactics as i have 5 hero cards for this deck now.
Quick note, when playing cards from the discard pile, try and stick to the same type, or limit it to two.
If you do have 2 medics, its a good idea to try and leave on in your hand... which brings us to round 3.
for round 3, if you do have a medic in your hand you can use it, bring back your other medic, then bring back another big card, effectively playing 3 cards in one go. You can then decoy these if you hve any left and bring more of your big cards. then just smash the rest of your cards out, always good to have a commanders horn saved for round 3 so dot use them all up in round 2 just in case the opponent has some tricks up their sleeve. Ive often had times where ive had to play a biting frost weather card just to drop the opponents damage, but also making all my cards near worthless, then playing a commanders horn on my single 6 powered ranged card to double it for the win.
As with any strategy game, everything is going to depend on what cards you draw and what cards the opponent plays. but this strategy works out pretty well 90% of the time, even before I had the hero cards Id gone straight to novrigard to start challenging everyone who had decks much better than mine and i still creamed them.
Quick tip, some great cards are the ones that double in power when placed together, (providing their base damage is 4 or more), coupled with a commanders horn. two 4 power cards become 32 power very quickly. Nilfgaarden has some weaker versions but can have up to 4 in a deck so more likely to get the coupling.
For the rest of my deck:
In my deck i will have one of each weather card, the 2 decoys, 2 clear weather cards and 3 commanders horns.
When given the option to redraw at the start of the match i try to focus on only two main attackers (siege and close, close and ranged, ranged an siege etc) depending on what cards ive drawn, so if i have some good siege cards and good close cards then i will swap my lowest ranged cards in hope for my key cards (decoys, spies etc). rounds 2 and 3 I just hammer the opponent, I try to use one or the other of my attacking cards but always be weary of weather, i have gained some heroes so this lets me save rounds where i might otherwise be flooded out, and always save a clear weather card for when you need it if you can. Also dont play your weather cards against the opponent until your sure. you may be able to beat them by placing a commanders horn after theyve passed, it also lets them waste more cards in that position by placing it at the end, just be aware that they may hold clear weather cards aswell. oh, also if they play a weather card on you you can clear it and still place a weather card on them towards the end of the round. AI seems to often play their weather cards in earlier rounds so be prepared to change up your offence, by round 3 it wont matter as much just make sure your not going to cripple yourself by playing a weather card against them, though by using this strategy you will usually have extra cards to play at the end then they do.
Tips for certain players,
monster decks can be a pain, when im knowingly playing against a monster deck i will swap out all weather cards for just biting frost, they are usually very full of close quarters and can play cards from the side deck and very quickly become very overpowering, even with a biting frost, a monster deck with 10 cards down and a commanders horn will still do 2 damage per card and many of those cards will also bring a siege or ranged card to the table aswell.
Soi'catel (however its spelt) have cards that can choose between ranged or close, AI seems to favour the ranged slot in these cases though so wait for them to use them then smash a fog card to reduce them all to 1, playing the weather too early means they can just choose to play a different slot.
Niilfgarden and northern realms are pretty similar, can help to bring all 3 decoys against either of these decks as they will often play spies aswell, being able to pick them up and play them back can help keep the advantage.
@Thermalcake @rafaelmendes
Without spoiling too much - you will find Velen (No Man's Land) players/merchants usually much easier than those in Novigraad and those in Novigraad a bit easier from the ones in Skellige. There might be exceptions to that rule, but generally speaking it's good to look for merchants / Gwent players in Velen and boost your deck by winning with them.
@Senteria
If you are speaking of Gwent player from Vizima - it's a bug. Most Gwent players like merchants/innkeeps don't have quest signs above their heads (in their case Gwent is not quest related - but still - first game won with them grants you new card), Vizima's player is exception because he has really nice prize for you.
Without spoiling too much - you will find Velen (No Man's Land) players/merchants usually much easier than those in Novigraad and those in Novigraad a bit easier from the ones in Skellige. There might be exceptions to that rule, but generally speaking it's good to look for merchants / Gwent players in Velen and boost your deck by winning with them.
@Senteria
If you are speaking of Gwent player from Vizima - it's a bug. Most Gwent players like merchants/innkeeps don't have quest signs above their heads (in their case Gwent is not quest related - but still - first game won with them grants you new card), Vizima's player is exception because he has really nice prize for you.
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@Evilweed so he is not supposed to have a quest above his head or he is supposed to but the quest that should be there is not triggered?
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Also can you get cards for the other decks too or are you forced to stick with the northern kingdoms?
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Also can you get cards for the other decks too or are you forced to stick with the northern kingdoms?
Are any cards missable (besides at the inn during the prologue)? I'm the kind of person who doesn't move on until I know I have everything, but I really want to get through the story and it would put me at ease knowing I can always get certain cards later. Oh, and yes, count me among the people who would GREATLY appreciate the physical cards being put up on the store for us to buy.
Really fun card game, guys! I'm pleasantly surprised after I felt a bit down over the lack of dice poker. Thank you for making this.
Oh, and yes, count me among the people who would GREATLY appreciate the physical cards being put up on the store for us to buy.Really fun card game, guys! I'm pleasantly surprised after I felt a bit down over the lack of dice poker. Thank you for making this.
Haha, I hear you.
Yeah, he just pulled out so many high powered cards.....and then doubled them
Even when I drew one round he won anyway because of the faction bonus.Anyway, I'm really enjoying Gwent so far and I like the deck-building factor. Reminds me a bit of FFVIII which I also loved.
Ah, yes. I assumed so. Good thing I did the Velen card quest first.
Thank you!Once you get some Hero cards like Roche and Yennefer, you will start to steamroll people. Not sure if difficulty settings play a role in the computer AI ability also, maybe one of the creators could chime in on that.
I'm pretty far along in the story (just beat the Madame in Novigrad last night) and I noticed someone saying that if you didn't beat the Gwent tutorial guy you will miss out on a card. Does this mean that I won't be able to complete the Side Quest that requires you collect all the Gwent cards? If anyone has any insight that would be great, would hate to think I will miss out on a quest completion because I didn't beat that guy. Thanks.
I'm pretty far along in the story (just beat the Madame in Novigrad last night) and I noticed someone saying that if you didn't beat the Gwent tutorial guy you will miss out on a card. Does this mean that I won't be able to complete the Side Quest that requires you collect all the Gwent cards? If anyone has any insight that would be great, would hate to think I will miss out on a quest completion because I didn't beat that guy. Thanks.
@Senteria - he is exception to merchants/random gwent players not having quest sign above their heads. We wanted to make sure players will notice him and either try hard to beat him with base deck or return later to Vizima with stronger deck. Card you can win from him can boost NR deck significantly. And as for the bug - after diealogue he shouldn't have quest mark anymore.
And by the way - good job on beating him first try!
Of course you can get cards from other factions! First win with each innkeep, merchant or quest player grants you with card. Apart from that some merchants and innkeeps sell cards - so even if you are equipped with enough of chicken sandwiches for your adventure go to that inkeep and check if he sells interesting cards. Actually it is good to buy all cards from other factions (even weak ones) - this makes you get this minimum 22 unit cards faster.
@mindw0rk2 - I personally would love that too.
And by the way - good job on beating him first try!
Of course you can get cards from other factions! First win with each innkeep, merchant or quest player grants you with card. Apart from that some merchants and innkeeps sell cards - so even if you are equipped with enough of chicken sandwiches for your adventure go to that inkeep and check if he sells interesting cards. Actually it is good to buy all cards from other factions (even weak ones) - this makes you get this minimum 22 unit cards faster.
@mindw0rk2 - I personally would love that too.
Ask away. the team and I will do our best to help you if you are stuck or just have questions general questions about Gwent.
I have started doing a daily thing on twitter where I give tips from basic to more advanced stuff ( @Bacon _is_life ) within the character limitation...
Here you can find a full list of cards and where to find them: http://www.primagames.com/games/witcher-3/tips/where-find-every-gwent-card-witcher-3-wild-hunt
The team is glad that people are digging it. We put a lot of effort into it so that it would be more than just a "mini game"*
*It's a pay 2 win mini game
As of now there are no plans to bring it to iOS and other platforms, but only you have the power to make it happen.
Where can i start Gwent Games? I've only did the tutorial game so far... Don't find any markers in the wolrd map about it.
Thank you in advance