Yennefer of Vengerberg (all spoilers)

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im sorry but her face got some tweaks too

Facial expressions + number of poligons

Just imagine a top model who is just awaked in the morning and the same top model after being in hand of maker-up artits and hairstylers.
 
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I think she knew , hence her usual "I know" response to Geralt saying that he loves her. It's something what games did, suddenly they made Yen not sure about the reality of the feelings between her and Geralt (which was pretty random imo).

The "Last Wish" quest in TW3 is a direct rebuttal of that opinion actually... ;)

We talk about the game here, so we talk about game lore. I agree with you when we only talk about the books. But for the games we have to take CDPR's take on the topic into account. My dialogues directly lead to the "romance" quests with both Yen and Triss and give "proper introduction and preparation" for them - in the way CDPR envisioned them for the game.
 
 
Ha-ha-ha, sorry I just can not ignore this hilarious one (I'm not looking for that stuff, really, just found it under the Priscilla's song, too lucky yeah).
Promise, this is the last one. :happy:

- This song. Too much shivers. Their love is a mountain.
- Oh come on, are you serious? Another canonzombie, she manipulates him like a puppet.
- Here we go pal.
"Geralt opened his eyes irritated by the play of light and shadow through his closed eyelids. He saw above him leaves, a kaleidoscope of leaves glistening in the sun. He also saw branches full of apples.
He felt the delicate touch of fingers on his temple and his cheek. Fingers he knew. He loved her so much that it hurt. His stomach, chest and ribs aches, and a corset of tight bandages convinced him completely that the pitchfork in the city of Rivia had not been a nightmare.
'Lay quietly, my love,' said Yennefer. 'Lay quietly. Do not move.'
'Where are we, Yen?'
'Does it matter? We are together. you and me.'
The birds sang. It smelled of herbs, rosemary flowers and apples.
'Where is Ciri?'
'She is gone.'
She shifted and gently freed her arm from under his head, and lay beside him on the grass so that she could look into his eyes. She looked eagerly, as if she would memorise his image, as if to save it for the future, for all eternity. He also looked at her as nostalgia gripped his throat.
'We were in a boat with Ciri,' Geralt recalled. 'On a lake. the on a river with a strong current. Among the fog.'
He fingers found his hand and squeezed hard.
'Lay still, my love. Lay still. I'm with you. It does not matter what happened, it does not matter where we were. Now I'm with you. I will never leave you. Never.'
'I love you, Yen.'
'I know.'
'Nevertheless,' he sighed. 'I'd like to know where we are.'
'Me too,' Yennefer said, quietly, after a while." © A.Sapkowski
- Pfff...stop posting fanfiction crap. I don't buy it.

:rofl:

What happened next?

This is like a part of a horror book!
 
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puuh thats damn much effort with Some good suggestions. Again, my respect for that.
But let's be honest, i dont think its worth all the effort from you. They will not change it ...sad i know

But :like:
 
Part 2: Dialogue between Geralt and Yen in Vizima at the end of the prologue

(--> Part 1: Dialogue between Geralt and Yen in White Orchard just before)


Yen: "Geralt...[pause] that tunic - you look positively smashing after all."

Geralt: "Ugh. Dying to take it off.

Yen: "I'd consider that a proposition under different circumstances...one I might even take upon you on. But we have matters to attend to. - Now, do you understand why I'm at Emhyr's court?

Geralt: "Mhm. And seems we're in the same boat now. - Ciri. She's really back? No chance she's mistaken?"

Yen: " Look [shows Geralt a sketch of Ciri]. That's more or less what she looks like now, so our agents claim. Our little witcheress' daughter's grown into a young lady."

(choice A -> So they're your agents now?)
Geralt: "Hm, so they're our agents now? My, my...you clearly settled in quick."

(Following passage: Which friends were killed? There is no context to that at all, so it also has no reason to exist. Instead Yen should instead mention his connection to Ciri because that's what she and Geralt really care about.)

Yen: "Geralt, don't twist my words. I know who Emhyr is. He started this war and its bloodshed. He had my friends killed. I don't know what he has in mind for Ciri but we can think about that later. But I hadn't any other choice, so please...let's not belabor the pros and cons and instead on finding Ciri. All right?"
(choice A path ends)

(choice B ->Yeah...all grown up.)
Geralt: "How about that...she's grown up."

(Following passage: I know that this should work as a connection to Geralt's dream at the beginning of the game - but the time at Kaer Morhen is certainly not the most impactful event in their past, and also not the last time they saw each other. On top of that Yen can't know that Geralt dreamt about Kaer Morhen. He didn't tell her so it makes no logical sense for her to specifically mention that moment she doesn't even experienced herself - opposite to those moments in which they both travelled around with Ciri or more striking evens, like on the stairs of Stygga castle or during Geralt's alleged death...)

Yen: "It's been years since you trained together at Kaer Morhen.we saw her fpr the last time - A great deal has changed."

Geralt: "You haven't. Not a bit."

Yen: "I misted those awkward compliments of yours. But let's focue on Ciri, all right?"
(choice B path ends)

(linear plot continues)
Geralt: "Right. Emhyr said the Wild Hunt's after her again. I'd find that hard to believe - before what happened yesterday. And after what happened yesterday I have no doubt about it. How did they track us down?"

Yen: "Because of me. You see...I've spent months searching for Ciri. Using location spells, haruspicy, geomancy, anything, really. I knew the Wild Hunt might sense it, perhaps even find me, but...I've thought I'd tricked them."

Geralt: "Well, guess you were wrong."

Yen: "Hm. I've sensed them on my trail, hunting me, for some time. If not for you and Emhyr's soldiers, they'd had gotten what they were after. - I can't risk another encounter like that. It's time to put away the maic, turn to more traditional methods...to the best tracker I know. - You're her father, Geralt, and she's your destiny. You must find her, Geralt. Before the Wild Hunt does."

optional choice -> What's the Wild Hunt want from Ciri?)
(following passage: Geralt talks about the Wild Hunt like he didn't even know anything about them at all expect rumors everybody knows. That completely ignores that Geralt rode with the Hunt himself for YEARS and that he should know pretty well about their goals and motivations know since he regained his full memory. This whole short dialogue here between Geralt and Yen seems like it's a bad substitute for a fleshed out flashback scene that would introduce the Wild Hunt in the prologue to Witcher 1, when they kidnapped Yennefer in order to find Ciri and when Geralt traded himself in in order to free Yennefer. But even as a substitute this dialogue makes no sense because Geralt's obvious knowledge about them searching for Ciri is just ignored. Yennefers answer to Geralt's question why they were after Ciri makes even less sense since she must know that Geralt knows more about the Hunt than herself. And the very cloudy "it must be about her blood" is ridiulous. Yennefer knows damn well what the Wild Hund wants from Ciri.

This optional dialogue choice makes no sense at all. It's inconsistent with the lore of the previous games. I'd prefer a non-optional flashback scene here that introduces the Wild Hund properly and gives context to their connection to Geralt and Ciri in particular. There is no reason to hide that at this point of the game, especially not by just making such bullshit and wrong optional dialogue line. So either non-voluntary flashback or just cut the whole thing...


Geralt: "The Wild Hunt, what could it want from Ciri?

Yen: "I've no clue, Geralt. Might've written them to ask but I don't have their address. - I know as much as you do. It must be about her blood, her gift. - I'd prefer not to think about it, really."

(optional dialogue choice ends)

(mandatory choice -> So where's Ciri been seen? -> linear plot continues)
Geralt: "So where's Ciri been seen exactly?"

Yen: "In two places - Velen and Novigrad. The trail in Velen is most promising. You should make that first stop. Ask for a merchant named Hendrik at the Inn of the Crossroads. One of the emperor's agents, he should get in touch with you."

Geralt: "That's it? No passwords, no secret handshakes?"

Yen: "None. Sorry to spoil your fun, your boyhood fantasies about the crafts of the trade. - All we have in Novigrad are unconfirmed reports, rumors. But there you will have the help of our...[pause]... there will perhaps be somebody who might agree to help us, our [really ironic] mutual acquantaince. - Triss Merigold. Apparently she's got a cozy flat on the main square. But I'm pretty sure you already know that.."

(At this occasion I'd bring up the amnesia issue and the respective dialogue between Geralt and Yen. It's one of the core consequences of TW2 that should be treated properly by giving it central space early on. Not only because it's something that is of great importance to Geralt himself (and this is supposed to be "Geralt's personal story") but because there is missing context for people who don't know the books or even the previous games that needs proper explanation. The game tackles that later during this dialogue with a short optional choice dialogue but that's imo two little context, especially since the game gives you no chance to express your feelings for Triss - if you have some - early on - which is a core and valid criticism of many Triss fans, especially since CDPR decided that Geralt and Triss had to split up at the beginning of TW3 no matter what. That's completely consistent with the plot but that doesn't mean that by giving the player a small choice here wouldn't improve the situation for everyone, giving back agency. So I suggest a choice here that can't be avoided. It should cover everyone who is is attracted to Yennefer (like bookf fans), everyone who is attracted to Triss (like fans of TW2, who want to continue their romance with Triss in a consistent, properly explained way) and everyone who has no preference at all (like perhaps complete newcomers). It's not like this choice is absolutely necessary to bring the plot forward, not at all. But it's a great opportunity to give the players agency and the feeling that their choices and their preferences in the games are properly acknowledged and respected. It's a typcial "Mass Effect" choice situation with no long term differing consequences (only short term like the kiss). It more of a "feeling" choice, for the pure sake of the moment - and to further explore one's one path in the game. At the same time I cut the kiss with Yen in all situations in which you don't clearly stand to her so early on. Everybody can of course still decide for Triss or Yen later on - or both or none of them with the respective consequences)

Geralt: "I'm sure she will be delighted to see me. What about you? What will you do?"

Yen: "I shall sail for Skellige. There was a magic explosion recently, blew half of the forest down. I believe this had something to do with Ciri. I'll be in Kaer Trolde. Join me there once you've learnt something."

Geralt: "Yen...I'd lost my memory...I know you're hurt but...about Triss...she helped me to find the kingslayer and she helped me to finally regain my memory."

Yen: "So that's your excuse? I've heard you and Triss made a great couple."

(choice A -> It was failure and I'm sorry about it.)
Geralt: "If I hadn't lost my memory nothing would have ever happened. As soon as I've recovered by memory I left Triss and tried to find you...you know what I feel for you."

Yen: [calm] "Do you? That you'd forget about me that quickly...maybe it was that genie alone, after all..."

Geralt: "Yen...I..."

[Yennefer kisses him.]

Yen: "I know, Geralt. But we don't have time for that now. I shall sail to Skellige. There was a magic explosion recently, blew half of the forest down. I believe this had something to do with Ciri. I'll be in Kaer Trolde. Join me there once you've learnt something. I will wait for you there."

(choice A path ends)

(choice B -> I still have feelings for Triss.)
Geralt: "When Triss helped me we came closer, really close to be honest...it's complicated...Once I found out about you...and Ciri...I had to split up with Triss, thinking it all over. But now I feel bad about it..."

Yen: [really angry] "Oh, you feel bad. How do you think I felt when I heard about you two? I should turn you into a frog or something..."

Geralt: "I didn't...want to hurt you, Yen. It's just that I have feelings for both of you."

Yen [sad, calmed down]: [pause] "You once told me that I had to decide between you...and Istredd. You remember? And I did. Now I expect the same from you. [pause] I shall sail to Skellige. There was a magic explosion recently, blew half of the forest down. I believe this had something to do with Ciri. I'll be in Kaer Trolde. Join me there once you've learnt something. I expect you've made your decision up until then."

(choice B path ends)

(choice C -> ...silence...)
Geralt: "..."

Yen: [angry] "So you don't have to say anything at all about that? [pause, calmed down] Ah, let's drop it, all right? "It's not what you think" or "it helped me understand how much I love you". I don't wish to hear it, any of it, anyway. [pause] I shall sail to Skellige. There was a magic explosion recently, blew half of the forest down. I believe this had something to do with Ciri. I'll be in Kaer Trolde. Join me there once you've learnt something"

(choice C path ends)

(linear plot continues with mandatory choice -> Time to get going)
-->(optional choice "Before we part..." is completely cut but almost all of its parts are implemented in the choice situation above)

Geralt: "Guess this means we need to split up agiain. Not my preference but I understand. Clock's ticking."

Yen: "It is indeed. So why don't I teleport you to Velen, get you there at once?"

Geralt: "Not gonna happen. I'll go on horseback. Soon as I get changed."

Yen: "Have it your way. Oh, and,... you really look quite dashing in black velvet."

Geralt: "Think so? Maybe I can have some of my armor lined up with it. Hm. Good luck, Yen."

Yen: "Same to you. And if you wish to learn what's happened in the world while you and Vesemir roamed in the wilderness, talk to Ambassador var Attre. That's him, over there. - And Geralt, I know it's wartime, but try not to be a hero, all right? Just check those leads and come back to me - in one piece. For Ciri."

[Yen kisses Geralt.]

Yen: "I shall be waiting."




(Note: Every suggestion of mine shouldn't be seen literally. It's more about the general idea. Fighting over single terms or words is not the point of my posts.)

Really great. I like a line about Istredd and amesia at all. It's way more better than the original.
But the sad part is I really feel default Vizima YG conversation empty after yours.
 
so whats the point saying they only changed her hairstyle?

I don't know... I'm a Yen's fan so I don't understand anything...

Do you really think that in this Forum Threads are privates and posts cannot be read by all the rest of users? When some of you come here to povoque our rage with innocents questions and you run quickly to mock of us in YOUR thread. That's nothing had been seen begore in this forum. We we're always can discute and arguyin freely without feelinglike intruders or profanaters... But this forum is free so, write what you want. Thanks for wasting your times with me.
 
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