Hmmm maybe make a huge DLC or another game? It'd be nice lol even thought W3 is the end of Geralts story
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Hmmm maybe make a huge DLC or another game? It'd be nice lol even thought W3 is the end of Geralts story
I know which side you're on. You were one of the supporters in the old thread long before I even joined it. That's why I was trying to explain the situation from my point of view about the Rose (I had to mix both responses due to a double post) so you got a part of a response that was meant to someone else, my apologize.
Cool down DaWitcher, i always like to read your post, but you said Yen is ingame for fan service is too much. Also, as i remember, dev said no new content, that doesn't mean no new cutscene. Hope you will return soon
Cool down DaWitcher, i always like to read your post, but you said Yen is ingame for fan service is too much. Also, as i remember, dev said no new content, that doesn't mean no new cutscene. Hope you will return soon
Yeah Yen is important to the storyline (so is Ciri and her relationship to Geralt) but in terms of romance, we are trying to get 'equality' or 'parity' to at least make the choice of Triss a valid one (and that is done by fixing the inconsistenices), both characters are awesome and i know CDPR will do good in making the best immersive experience for the players (including us Triss fans). No new content like you said doesn't exactly mean no more cutscenes and we are sure the changes will mostly (if not all) be involved in the dialogue.....still leaves room for content in the expansions however (if not in the main game)......
I agree that there is an issue once you have chosen Triss but I don't believe that the entire game needs an overhaul to shoehorn Triss in at every turn. Some things should be left open to player interpretation and it adds a bit of subtlety to the relationship. I just disagree that we need a full explanation as to why Triss isn't with Geralt at the start. This is something we can draw our own conclusions from and by the conversation with Triss when you meet her in Novigrad it seems clear that she would not be able to handle watching Geralt and Yen reunite. Sure the player, may be dead set on Triss but Geralt is his own character.
Triss and Geralt do talk about Kovir. You get two conversations about it. Do we really need a full blown step by step Kovir planner? Or a contrived 'Rose of Remembrance' quest? Does it matter if some silly elven legend is proven true? I barely believe the Djinn spell crap. I can only speak for myself and the Geralt I was playing when I say that he doesn't need magic to prove his love for someone.
I just disagree that we need a full explanation as to why Triss isn't with Geralt at the start: most of the Triss fan have figure this one out already, and in the quote DaWitcher agree about this
Triss and Geralt do talk about Kovir. You get two conversations about it. Do we really need a full blown step by step Kovir planner? Or a contrived 'Rose of Remembrance' quest? Does it matter if some silly elven legend is proven true? I barely believe the Djinn spell crap: It is the suggestion; and Kovir plann, 'Rose of Remembrance' can be a conversation in the boat or before the battle
Amen!
My Geralt just gave the okay for getting a Djinn spell released based on the theme of not needing magic to keep your love together. Now he should trek either back to the site of the first rose, suddenly go looking for one nearby (which would be contrived and silly), or trying to revive the dead rose in some vain attempt to have a magical item represent his feelings for Triss? :blink:
No thanks. My Geralt is too busying trying to save his daughter's life. I'm all for more Triss content too and I can't wait to see how CDPR will implement it. But if its cat fights with Yen, hunting down lame flowers, and talking about Kovir for the third time then no thanks. I'd rather romance Yen or nobody at all.
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I know, and I wasn't arguing the beginning scene with Da Witcher. Just stating that I disagree with those who mentioned wanting an explanation about the six months.
I wouldn't mind talking about the rose or handling it to her before the battle. However, I have read other suggestions for actually hunting down another one or having the dead one bloom again. I just don't think any of that is needed.
I have seen the future already
As soon as the fix come out, we will divide into two teams. One is satisfies, one is not, some are neutral but when the war begin, they are forced to take side. Any deserter will face the "ignore" punishment. The red-hair soccessses try to calm both team, her effort is in vain, eventhough they all love her but the the disagreement is too strong. Feeling depress, she go into hiding and nobody ever see her again.
We never know how the war end, the one most believable tale is: in the sky of the battlefield there always one thing look like a dragon or ... a bird ? we not sure, so i will call it/he/she Dragonbird. She usually fly peacefully atop the battle, sometime take one people away, solider doesn't mind much cause they have enemys to worry for. Then one day, the Dragonbird descend and turn the battlefield to the river of fire, both side take heavy casualty. A peace treaty soon sign afterward.
Still the war has left many sorrow, regret and affect to this day, many people remember like it happen yesterday: "Triss Merigold civil war"
As soon as the fix come out, we will divide into two teams. One is satisfies, one is not, some are neutral but when the war begin, they are forced to take side. Any deserter will face the "ignore" punishment. The red-hair soccessses try to calm both team, her effort is in vain, eventhough they all love her but the the disagreement is too strong. Feeling depress, she go into hiding and nobody ever see her again.
We never know how the war end, the one most believable tale is: in the sky of the battlefield there always one thing look like a dragon or ... a bird ? we not sure, so i will call it/he/she Dragonbird. She usually fly peacefully atop the battle, sometime take one people away, solider doesn't mind much cause they have enemys to worry for. Then one day, the Dragonbird descend and turn the battlefield to the river of fire, both side take heavy casualty. A peace treaty soon sign afterward.
Still the war has left many sorrow, regret and affect to this day, many people remember like it happen yesterday: "Triss Merigold civil war"
Yeah Yen is important to the storyline (so is Ciri and her relationship to Geralt) but in terms of romance, we are trying to get 'equality' or 'parity' to at least make the choice of Triss a valid one (and that is done by fixing the inconsistenices), both characters are awesome and i know CDPR will do good in making the best immersive experience for the players (including us Triss fans). No new content like you said doesn't exactly mean no more cutscenes and we are sure the changes will mostly (if not all) be involved in the dialogue.....still leaves room for content in the expansions however (if not in the main game)......
You just took what i had in my head and put on here im glad cause I didn't know how to put it. But i totally agree with you.
Right now, you are showing a stong ability to foresee the future. So I really, really hope that the aggression on the last few pages has ended.
I do too Jamesjford77, i think it would only be fair. Even if you decide to do two play throughs, like one with Yenn and one with Triss. The Triss play through would make much better sense. Because you would have a better relationship with Triss and not how they have it in the first place when you pick Triss. I think it would satisfy Triss Fans.
Very well put Pryce68!!
yup... triss been going through a lot after tw2 events... she lost almost everything after foltest murder and geralt leaving her between tw2 & tw3 left her with nothing, if anything, she deserves a break
Yeah i see what you mean and i agree, the issues with the Triss content are more prevalent after Act one, having some things left up to interpretation is fine as long as it isn't a constant issue, for example the breakup has been discussed a lot on this thread and sometimes even a codex entry with a sentence explaining why can be enough for some people, other people would take issue with it and expect a better explanation or even the ability to remain with Triss at the start, personally i don't see much issue with how it played out but others might, although i agree with you in that we can fill in some gaps ourselves.
I think in regards to the rose, it would play out similar to giving Triss the earring back, in that the dialogue option would appear (on the boat or at the tent), and then a few lines would happen, i don't think we would get a new rose of remembrance quest (again what the devs said doesn't suggest it unless it is saved for an expansion), these things would add to the immersion of choosing Triss if implemented (emphasis on the if) but like you said Geralt's relationship with Triss isn't based on that rose but it can be considered symbolic of their relationship to the player......still it is up to CDPR to decide on these things, these are suggestions and like you said this game doesn't need an overhaul to include Triss every chance they get, it is more about making that choice validated.
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She's been through a lot in TW2: Assassin of Kings.
1. She lost her position as The Royal Advisor to King Foltest.
2. She lost her home in Vizima, her money and pretty much everything else she had in Temeria.
3. She was on the run and she was considered a fugitive for aiding Geralt of Rivia who was accused of slaying Foltest.
4. She was kidnapped by Letho just to get turned into figurine by Cynthia after, obviously The Lodge was trying to get rid of her at that point too.
5. She was decompressed and tortured after by the Nilfgaardians.
Depend on the player's choice, just stating mine down here.
6. She was rescued by Geralt of Rivia in Loc Muinne
7. She revealed the Lodge's plans during the Summit of Loc Muinne and that made her position even worse.
8. She departed with Geralt of Rivia (We know the decision wasn't hers) she told him that she was willing to go to the end of the world to help him find Yennefer.
9. She had to start a new with the war, Witch Hunt and after losing the thing that mattered to her the most (Geralt of Rivia).
10. She went to Novigrad just to be pursed by The Witch Hunters and lost her house in the process.
11. She started rescuing mages and taking them to an underground hideout where she had to look after and provide for them.
12. She went from being rich and living a luxurious life to living in poverty - in the pits of Novigrad and hanging around The Putrid Grove.
13. Breaking up with Geralt left her weak, vulnerable, insecure and she lost everything for someone who left her to purse their own agenda.
People keep wondering why she's so sad and gloomy in TW3. Because this wasn't the first time she was rejected by Geralt, it happened before in the books twice. So, those old feelings of depression, being alone, looking behind your shoulder and having no-one to depend on came back and they were worse than ever, because this time, she had nothing, only thing she had was 30 other people to look after and provide for.
The plot holes and romance inconsistencies in TW3 made her situation more sad and depressing.
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Man that really is depressing, some changes are definitely needed.
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