PvE griefers will just kite enemies your way lol or block off the area you need to go for a quest. Killing you themselves is simple. There's lots of ways they can be a nuisance
Oh I agree private servers would be great in that you could have private run pvp or non pvp servers. My point however is more about "official" servers or the official game itself because as far as I know it not certain at all private servers will be a thing. Hell I think we don't even know what shape or form multiplayer will take.
My point is also that I don't agree with your opinion that, "you can make an online environment shared by many players" work if they force open world PVP on people that are not interested in such. If they force such a thing in open world on official servers it has been proven again and again that safeguards just don't work and even leads into developers coding in "rewards" for to try and force or entice you into gameplay you dislike that turn you into meta content for others.
My point is that I don't care what so and so does on their private server.. all the more power to that/them but I will not hold my breath on there being private servers tbh thus my post in this regard.
Pvp in private servers or non pvp private is basically a non factor, it's what happens in the official server or official game that matters.
Frankly right now I don't think there will be servers period. I just hope they do give us some form of hosting method so we can play the game with others...the things is they need to make it work better than say how Grim Dawn does it to avoid syncing issues and broken quests/missions etc etc
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Yup, just look to Red Dead Redemption Online as an example. Sure, you can stop someone from shooting you and killing you by activating Defensive mode, but griefers can still lasso you and drag you, horse-jack you, etc...never underestimate the lengths a griefer will go to just to aggravate people.
I like the idea of being able to create factions that police/moderate themselves as much as they can. I would really like to experience a game where people there get to know the players around them like they were actually citizens of NC. Where the die hard fans could set up factions that shun the griefer types, focus on problem solving, and allow a supportive social experience. I would love to be surrounded by people who were as into the game as I know I'm going to be.
It would be amazing to see the same players throughout the city as if you were running into them in a IRL city. Or, to see people you have seen hanging out around bars, or somewhere, suddenly show up in missions.
To watch the growth and progression of your friends, trade stuff, hang out, die together, live together...it seems like a reasonable way to have an MP for the Cyberpunk world.
I would also be a good thing for CDPR, because I know they want superfans to congregate, it's the best thing they can do for the "public image" of 2077. Setting up something like that would also provide a new form of immersion that CDPR is shooting for with the single player, it would just be a worthy continuation of it into the MP. Which will be one of the biggest challenges.
I like to think of playing the MP would be like streaming, where consistency is rewarded by being able to play with people who are also going to be consistent anti griefers/serious players, they will be the ones who will make the world truly immersive. If players also decide to actually stream gameplay, then there is a really interesting dynamic of the Cyberpunk world melding with the real world. That form of networking is, at least, one of my own personal goals. I really think this is an important subject and could even be something that helps people feel involved, or a part of something, just like streaming channel communities end up doing.
I wouldn't mind paying for some things as well. I don't like subscription based things, but I would make an exception for an MP I cared about. I would completely expect a free to play option for everyone, but would gladly pay for something priced reasonably if it was my #1 social experience. I would see it as a form of donation to CDPR for being badazz mofos.
Badazzmofodonoz, I am ok with this.
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True story, but it's still far off and I hope CDPR reads and dissects the thread as much as they need to for inspiration or insight.
Even if it helps a dev just a little with a obstacle or idea then we have done something meaningful.
Making this MP is going to be hard AF. Godspeed CDPR.
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I am not exactly a fan of multiplayer for several reasons. Do we know what kind of MP are they thinking about? Group vs environment as in Mass Effect 3 (pretty good aside from horrible lags) or PvP (I avoid those like plague)?
ghost recon is what I see as a perfect example of what a good mp option to be added in where 2-3 friends can join in and assist you
I haven't played it, but it looks amazing. To have an stealthy option for the Splinter Cell fans would be amazing, because (hopefully), if set up correctly, a badass Cyberpunk team could consist of the sneaky types with straight up slayer types. That juxtaposition would be so much fun...especially if there was a timing and place crucial aspect. Like one team on one side of the city doing work, while other team(s) make sure they are able to do so...
I like to think of controlled chaotic situations happening throughout the city and the consequences rippling through the various groups of people who inhabit NC. It would be awesome to be able to somehow hear about how other cyberpunks are accomplishing crazy things through rumors and "scuttlebutt".
so if they said that they're not working on MP, basically this thread is ruined XD
They've said it repeatedly. There will be no MP at launch, but it could possibly come later.
they have said the mp feature is what one of side teams is working on and that it wont be ready at launch it will be one of dlc adons post launch if at all
well does anyone knows if they pay attention to this thread???
or is this thread just some brainstorm to throw away to the garbage??
I really hope they have a side campaign for co-op. and side campaign for pvp. wich will influence factions control in nightcity and inlfuence on streets creds or eddies for belonging to a faction....of course (and there's no running away from it) Multiplayer becomes a loop wich gets to be pretty much the same everytime....therefore releasing vehicles, appartments, clothes, weapons, tattoos, high-tech, new air style, new body mods is pretty importante to give variety to a rpg multiplayer game wich in my opinion its what makes a good rpg game in multiplayer aspects..... but just storming the place with this idea.
or is this thread just some brainstorm to throw away to the garbage??
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I really hope they have a side campaign for co-op. and side campaign for pvp. wich will influence factions control in nightcity and inlfuence on streets creds or eddies for belonging to a faction....of course (and there's no running away from it) Multiplayer becomes a loop wich gets to be pretty much the same everytime....therefore releasing vehicles, appartments, clothes, weapons, tattoos, high-tech, new air style, new body mods is pretty importante to give variety to a rpg multiplayer game wich in my opinion its what makes a good rpg game in multiplayer aspects..... but just storming the place with this idea.
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The REDs definitely keep an eye on the forums, and do post here from time to time. As to this specific thread, I don't think they posted here, and don't have any knowledge of how much it's "under observation."
... I Still very addicted to this game just by looking at gameplay and listen the developers of the game in interviews...just pitty that they putting multiplayer on the corner
CDPR definitely pays attention to these forums.
But with the game, and more importantly specific gameplay details, not yet made public they rarely comment except in very general terms. And that only rarely.
I can only hope that CDPR is taking some things from this thread into consideration.
We're just trying to help because we care, at least, I do.
Wasn't even until recently that we found out some team members are working on it. I think most would agree that we'd rather them come out with a more fleshed out single player game first and then work on MP. If they split the team off too much during the single player development, that takes resources and possibly quality away from that. The game should first and foremost be a single player game. MP is just going to be an add on later
And just what sort of multi-player functionality do you want/expect?
CP2077 is not an MMO. There's thousands, if not millions, of lines of code needed for an MMO that don't exist in CP2077 and adding them would take a year or so.