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  1. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Again, like we're going in circles. I brought up the themes of transhumanism. What makes a consciousness is the meat. You ARE your meat. With the body/mind separate you lose that connection. Johnny to live in V's body has to change V's body to accommodate him. This is showing the...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,881
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  2. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Of course there is a reason to question Alt, one of the main reasons why someone might go with another ending is to avoid her.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,874
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  3. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Ok, that's an opinion and one CDPR might not share. If so, vote with your wallet, don't buy DLC. I will not buy anything unless it deals with saving Vs life.. whatever version of that life it is. 1609262207 Also there is no war here, I liked some of the rebukes to my own view, I've even...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,869
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  4. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I don't know, maybe the writers are asking the player to think for themselves, at least for a little bit.. or at least until any DLC states otherwise? Or maybe this is it and we're being asked to just think for ourselves and reflect on the game and discuss it like we're doing now? I get...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,866
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  5. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Firstly, V is one of a kind, the first to go through what they went through. As for your commentary on themes and leaps, that's on you. You're entitled to your views but you're not an authority. Also, for your consumption of fiction is there really no room for your to think about the...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,858
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  6. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Lack of fulfilling writing is the real culprit here lol
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,852
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  7. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I mean, I agree? She is speaking of what she knows and what she knows is what it is like to be a digitized psyche with no humanity for 50 years. Remember, at first V engram didn't even realize they were separated from Johnny, or an engram. Alt after their soukilling contacted Johnny, the...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,846
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  8. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    It isn't just headcanon. Alt has never, ever, been in a body after being SK'd. This isn't speculation, this is a fact. It is an objective truth her knowledge when it pertains to V's situation is limited.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,842
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  9. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    More like: well you've chosen this and now that you're here "join" me beyond the Blackwall. The warnings could have been sincere, due to her perspective and her own personal experiences. But once it is done she has every reason to try to convince you to stay as an engram only and to join her...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,836
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  10. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    She gobbles up A.I and wants to make you one too, for her collective. She freaks me the fuck out honestly. EDIT: Didn't even answer your question, sorry. Idk, it seemed challengable enough to me since we've already had one unreliable narrator in Johnny.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,824
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  11. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    "You can't save the world, only yourself" - Mike Pondsmith, creator of Cyberpunk PnP. That is what people are wanting, not a hero that saves the world and creates utopia. They just want to be able to do what Pondsmith says.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,817
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  12. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    The one thing I think everyone can agree on.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,815
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  13. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Because she lacks perspective. She has been disembodied for 50 years. She hasn't been back in a body, let alone her body literally milliseconds after she got slurped up into the internet. (I'm assuming the engrams communicating were talking at light speed, cuz ya know, robots) EDIT: It just...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,808
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  14. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Well if you look at my kill count...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,801
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  15. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I want to preface by saying I like the counter argument. The crux of my view is that the body determines consciousness. The body is important and dissociation is caused by replacing parts and potentially causing cyberpsychosis, that is what I was getting at with the Transhumanism angle. V has...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,782
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  16. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    If we don't get post main story DLC I'm gonna flail my arms around loudly and bitch for awhile. And also not buy the dlc they do release.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,765
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  17. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I mean that's why there are multiple endings. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,750
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  18. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    Because she is an A.I that wants to gobble up all other A.I in Mikoshi? She has her own agenda and I felt that bad omen feeling around her as well from the start. 1609254087 I mean the body is special, that's why I bring up the critique of Transhumanism in the game... it is playing off a theme.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,748
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  19. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I mean I don't even disagree, I wish the writing was different and more dialogue choices were given but to me, there is information enough there to draw different conclusions. There is a thing called 'unreliable narrators' in fiction. Hell Johnny was one of them.
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,740
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
  20. Kashola_

    [Spoiler Alert] About the endings

    I mean you're right, it isn't a great technology. Arasaka is evil AF IMO. But keep in mind SK's intended use: Neurally wipe the body and dispose of it keeping the digitized psyche of the person "soul killed". They are never put back into a body, let alone their own body. It goes back to my...
    • Kashola_
    • Post #7,737
    • Dec 29, 2020
    • Forum: STORY
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