Would you be happy if consoles got timed / exclusive content? Nope, so why demand the same on the PC?
This isn't "timed exclusive content." This is making your PC users suffer for literally not reason. I cannot continue playing the game until the patch hits because of game-breaking bugs. If I have to wait an extra week more than I need to because CDPR is making the anti-consumer practices of console parity, than they can lose my business in the future. The extra content in this pack is A.) Irrelevant, and B.) Miniscule. This is NOTHING like timed exclusive DLC. Not even a little, tiny bit.
If anything debugging for consoles is easier, 1 software setup 1 hardware setup, debugging for PC is a nightmare....
That has nothing to do with anything. Also, with this generation of consoles, it's patently false. Your XBONE or PS4 is basically just a crappy PC running a special, proprietary OS. There is nothing more complex about debugging a PC game vs a console game anymore.
When were they ever the best PC company? they had 1 PC exclusive that had to be redone and then patched for a year to be playable, and still most of the issues were fixed by mods.
Yes, CDPR USED to be good. Emphasis on USED to be. This patch, 1.07, has literally been the longest any AAA game in the last 10 years from any company on any platform has gone between patches when there were still game breaking bugs to fix. That's awful. (and if you disagree, proof please). And even the worst companies in the industry, EA and Ubisoft, have NEVER made PC users wait on patches because of console certification. NOT EVER.
W2 "whored" it self to consoles more than W3 did, what the hell is with this entitlement complex everyone is having on these forums....
I'm glad they sell the game on consoles. It means a bigger audience, more people get to play, and the company makes more money. All that means more games. What I am not okay with is a company that sells me a broken product and takes months and months to fix that product. It's not entitlement to ask the company not to sell me a broken product or tell them if they do sell me a broken product that they MUST fix it in a timely manner. I don't get the whole "entitlement" thing. YOU WOULD NOT ACCEPT A BROKEN PRODUCT FROM ANY OTHER BUSINESS ON EARTH! This is the ONLY industry that is allowed to sell broken products. But CDPR didn't JUST sell a broken product, they sold a broken product that they haven't even tried to fix in over a month now (the time between this patch and last patch). That's outrageous and is in now way even the slightest bit of entitlement.
Not a single patch was released on all platforms at the same time it depends on which day do the platforms publish content.
Patches can ALWAYS be published first on PC if they are cross platform patches, which this one is, because there is no approval process.
On that note why would you think the PC patch is easier or faster to push out? they got a billion software/hardware combinations to test on, including at least 4 operating systems (7, 8, 8.1, 10). You also have no statistics about platform specific bugs so the PC can have twice as many as the Xbox/PS4 or it can have half but which are 3-4 times more complex to trace and solve.
You're actual version of Windows has basically nothing to do with the software you run. This line shows your really don't know what you're talking about. It's the version of DirectX that matters. And since that's the same for all Windows PCs running Witcher 3, the version of Windows doesn't matter.
But beyond that, what you're missing is that this patch is cross platform. As in all the platforms are getting the same patch fixing the same bugs/adding the same features. That means that the patch is ready for all machines at the same time, basically. To put it simply, you're just wrong.
Nope. If this was a car or a TV or a movie or anything else, if you couldn't use the product because of factory defect, you'd be just as pissed as I am (maybe more). This is the only industry where "This is broken and they aren't fixing it" is met with "calm down" and that's insane.
I disagree with your position.
Which part?
Do you disagree that over 1 month to fix game breaking bugs is unacceptable? If so, please tell me how you would feel if LITERALLY anything but a video game had this sort of massive factory defect. What if you TV was unusable for over a month because of factory defect? How bout your car? Your ISP/cable? You'd be belligerent after a day, let alone a month.
Do you disagree that this is the worst patch delay to fix game breaking bugs on a AAA game in the last 10 years? If so, please list the AAA game with game breaking bugs that had a longer delay.
Do you disagree that a PC patch being held up because of console patches requiring verification is bullcrap? If so, please list another AAA studio that does this.
Seriously, what you said was, "You've made a lot of valid/factually true points, but I'm a giant fanboi of CDPR, and they can do no wrong in my eyes, so I disagree."
I should be surprised reading this but the internet is filled with hyperbole and self entitlement so it's nothing new.
I'm a PC only gamer and I don't want the patch delayed just for the consoles, but Jesus Christ calm down as you look ridiculous. It's just a patch.....
CDPR has, in the last month, has done 1 thing and possibly done a second thing that no other AAA studio has ever done. How is that not them becoming the worst. Ubisoft and EA, widely regarded as the worst, have NEVER gone more than a month between patches while their game still had game breaking bugs. And they have NEVER held back PC patches because of console patch verification process. NEVER. So if the two very worst companies don't do a bad thing, and CDPR DOES do a bad thing, how is that not CDPR being worse than EA and Ubi? Please, explain...I'm waiting.
And it isn't JUST a patch. I haven't been able to continue playing a game I paid for in over 30 days. If my cable stopped working for 30 days or my car stopped working for 30 days or my TV stopped working for 30 days and it was the manufacturers fault, I'd be livid, and you'd be livid too if it happened to you. Why do video games get a pass? Why is the video game industry special? Explain that one too, cause right now you and everyone else using this line of defense just looks like a giant hypocrite.
Your post paints a picture for me of a person who has little activity in his life, awakes late and immediately starts playing video games until it is time to once again sleep.
GET A LIFE! it is only a video game........... fiction not reality the world will not change due to the game or a patch Sheesh!
David
Holy crap. What a giant jerk. I PAYED 60 DOLLARS. I SHOULD OWN A WORKING VIDEO GAME. I DO NOT. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. If that doesn't make sense to you, I'm sorry I can't explain it any better. This is the last time I'll respond to the "it's just a video game, of course it has bugs" argument. It's a bad argument, it doesn't work in LITERALLY any other aspect of life, at all, stop using it. It makes you look really dumb.
EDIT: I decided I was being unfair. Maybe the people saying "It's a video game, of course it has bugs." have never been exposed to just how silly and ridiculous that argument is. So I'm gana give you some examples to help illustrate:
Software: You buy new software at full price. You start using software. Some parts of the software don't work properly, but they are small things, so you start using the software and just avoid the small, side parts that don't work. Eventually, however, you get to a problem that you can't work around. You haven't finished using the piece of software, but now you can no longer use it. You were sold a broken, defective product and should be entitled to a quick fix or a full refund.
Burger: You buy a new burger for full price. You start eating it, but you notice that it has ketchup. You hate ketchup. But you realize it's only a little ketchup, so you just keep eating it anyway. Sadly, after a couple of bites, you notice that the burger's patty is just a ring, and there is no meat in the middle of the burger. You were sold a broken, defective product and should be entitled to a quick fix or a full refund.
Car: You buy a new car for full price. You start driving the car. You notice that the passenger side window doesn't roll down and the speakers in the back seat don't work. But you bought this car almost exclusively for your commute to work, so it really doesn't matter much. You're in the drivers seat and those things affect you little if at all. But a couple miles down the road, your car stops running. After a tow to a mechanics, he tells you that the gas tank is filled with holes and that your 15 gallon gas tank is likely only going to get you about 1 gallon's worth of driving before all the gas leaks out of the tank. You were sold a broken, defective product and should be entitled to a quick fix or a full refund.
Cable TV service: You buy new cable TV service. You sit down and start flipping thru the channels. For some reason, none of the movie channels you bought are working. And all the spanish language channels don't work either. But that's okay, cause you weren't gana watch a movie right now and you don't speak Spanish. Than, after a couple hours of watching TV, the channel you were watching goes out...and then another and another and another until all you're left with is the Lifetime original movie channel and QVC. You were sold a broken, defective product and should be entitled to a quick fix or a full refund.
I hope this explains the position a little better. When you say "video games are buggy, calm down, a month's not a long time to wait for a fix" or crap like that, you're effectively saying "cable TV service is prone to massive blackouts of the vast majority of their channels, a month's not a long time to wait for a fix." When you say "Asking that the video game you bought work well out of the box is entitlement" or crap like that, you're effectively saying "Asking that your beef cheeseburger have a patty is entitlement."
This argument that is repeated ad nauseum in the video game industry is bad. It wouldn't work anywhere else. You wouldn't use it anywhere else. Video Games aren't some sort of special industry that deserves special protections just because they make video games. Are video games gana have bugs? Yes, they are. Should they be fixed promptly or should I be able to get a full refund? Yes, I should. Is over a month "promptly?" No, not by anyone's standards. Not in any context. Not even a little. So just stop. Please. You're only making yourself look foolish.
