1.07 PC patch delay due to console certification process

[PJ_01]

Man, haven't read posts like this since Mass Effect multiplayer RNG threads. lol

Although, if you take away all the angst and frustration and anger, they do have a point. I mean $60 doesn't come easy, at least not to people like me. That amount of money is just not something you can expect other people to be able to let go easily. But in situations like this, there's really nothing we can do except put this experience under buyer's remorse, learn your lesson, and then move on. Just refrain from purchasing anything from said company ever again now that you've learn that lesson(an expensive lesson, sure, but a lesson nonetheless) c'est la vie

 

[SigilFey]

Sorry that you seem to be having so much trouble with the game, DragoNDai, but it seems as if you are simply trying to vent your frustrations. If you are dissatisfied with the game, that is your opinion and your right. If you wish to keep playing it, then you must wait for the devs to do their work. If you wish to receive your money back for the title, you need to speak to the vendor you purchased it from or to the developers directly.

This is a tech forum, and people here can't help you with either of those things. What I can confirm is having played through the game once to conclusion (of the main quest) without encountering a single crash, relatively minor bugs, and no game-breaking issues whatsoever. Others I have spoken with cannot run the game for 15 minutes without terrible stuttering or crashes. This is the nature of gaming on PC. There is nothing inherently wrong with the game. If that were so, ALL of us would be experiencing the same issues. It's all hardware/system related at its core. Fortunately, CDPR is diligent enough to be looking into as many of these issues as possible. I would recommend patience.

If you wish a refund, then it will still require patience. Call, write, send e-mails, and don't relent. Your argument is sound. You are correct -- you should receive a working product, and you should not have to wait for repairs. A vendor will argue that the problem is on your end, that you've already used the product, or that the refund period has expired. Just keep sending in your argument until they give you the refund. It's the only way to get it.

 

[DragoNDai]

DragoNDai

Look up the meaning of Caveat emptor

You are much to verbose for me, so in summary, this is a user to user forum and NOBODY is going to fix your perceived problem, maybe some medication!, however you should direct what grievance you have to the developer, you can certainly grasp, I hope, how well you are doing with the users in this forum, ZERO comes to mind.

I play it PC, note I said 'play' it for entertainment when not doing other important things! my specs are here, not that we want to turn the forum into a tech site, so mabye the problem is not in the game but what you are playing it on.

I am now moving on:
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1 X 4Tb Synology NAS Raid 0

Yeah, sorry, as I said above, no one in their right minds thinks that Caveat Emptor applies to literally any other industry on the face of the earth. No one would use that line if you bought a brand new car that didn't work or if you bought a cheeseburger that didn't have any cheese. No one would be like "Oh no! You're 350 page book only had 200 pages in it! Caveat Emptor!" Nope, they would freak out and there'd be a massive backlash against the company that made the faulty product. But not in the video game industry. Because reasons. Which no one has ever given ever. Cause there aren't any.

And no, it's not my PC. I'm playing on a basically identical system, although I have a smaller power supply (750, which is still way too much for our systems) and only have 8 gigs of ram (12 is a really odd number though, so good on you for being different). But yeah, same graphics card (different manufacturer, I got MSI) and same processor...like identical.

Buuuuuuutttt...that doesn't matter...cause these aren't technical issues, they're gameplay issues. They are faulty coding, not faulty hardware. They are quests not progressing and other things that are 100%, obviously, and undeniably CDPR's fault. Unless you think the model of my graphics card could somehow make a quest not allow itself to be completed. Which, honestly, with the level of fanboi/gurlism on this forum, I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought that.

EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention. If I shouldn't be addressing these issues to the official forums, which the devs have proven they read, where, exactly, should I address these problems? Like, I realize that complaining isn't going to make CDPR change their have terrible, anti-consumer, awful, bad, no good business practices. But hopefully at least some people will see what a crap business CDPR is actually running and wise up and maybe not pre-order/buy their products anymore. I certainly know I won't buy "buying" anything from them again.

The biggest issue here is that CDPR could have pushed a bug fix only patch sooner. They didn't. This shows, to me, that they couldn't give a crap about their customers who are having game-breaking bugs. Now there is talk that they will be artificially delaying the PC version of the patch even longer, for literally not good reason. That's even worse. That's the salt in the wound (which they caused in the first place). Not acceptable. Not here, not anywhere.

EDIT 2 (so I don't double post):

This is a tech forum, and people here can't help you with either of those things. What I can confirm is having played through the game once to conclusion (of the main quest) without encountering a single crash, relatively minor bugs, and no game-breaking issues whatsoever. Others I have spoken with cannot run the game for 15 minutes without terrible stuttering or crashes. This is the nature of gaming on PC. There is nothing inherently wrong with the game. If that were so, ALL of us would be experiencing the same issues. It's all hardware/system related at its core. Fortunately, CDPR is diligent enough to be looking into as many of these issues as possible. I would recommend patience.

I had patience for 3 weeks. That's plenty of patience. Again, you say that "This is the nature of gaming on PC." And I say, "Bullcrap." It is the nature of gaming on PC because we, the consumer, let it be. It wouldn't fly in any other industry on the planet. I've said that about a dozen times today, it's been true all dozen times, and nobody reads it/comprehends.

To put it simply, if you ever find your argument in defence of a piece of software relies on that software being software and not a car or a burger or a book or a movie or literally any other product, you have a bad argument. Stop using it. Stop thinking it. It's faulty, it is bad, and it's not valid. It just isn't. So before you defend a product or a company that makes video games in the future replace the word "video game" with literally any other product and if the defence now feels hallow and dumb, than it was a hallow and dumb defence to begin with.

If you wish a refund, then it will still require patience. Call, write, send e-mails, and don't relent. Your argument is sound. You are correct -- you should receive a working product, and you should not have to wait for repairs. A vendor will argue that the problem is on your end, that you've already used the product, or that the refund period has expired. Just keep sending in your argument until they give you the refund. It's the only way to get it.

Sadly, Steam won't ever give in. All I can do is never "buy" CDPR's software ever again and urge others to do the same (which is what all the rantings about). I get that I might not make a huge impact. A sizable portion of the userbase has a working product and couldn't care that CDPR is practicing anti-consumer business strategies, because it doesn't affect them. But hopefully some people will see, will care, and CDPR will feel the effects of their bad decisions the next time they release a game.

And I shouldn't have to add this last bit, but apparently the average user on this forum has no idea what politeness is, so I will add, thanks for not being a total jerk like a lot of the other people in here.

EDIT 3: Man, all the responses are the same. Some variation on one of the following:

1.) Too bad

2.) Caveat Emptor

3.) Be patient

4.) It's somehow your fault

Seriously, none of those are even remotely good arguments. None of them are even remotely reasonable, by an definition of the word. If you want to say I'm wrong, prove it. I've given ample ways to do so, even spelled it out for you. If you can't do that, admit that your defence of CDPR is either blind fanaticism or a case of you giving unwarranted special treatment to video game developers for literally no good reason. And realize that neither of those two options are going to lead to you making yourself look like anything but a rabid fanboi/gurl. And if you can't disprove my arguments, stop and think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, CDPR might be engaged in some really crappy business practices that we should be calling out, not defending.

 

[SigilFey]

Beginning at the end, with the Steam thing:

Steam does give refunds, they are just very frugal about it. First, Steam does not sell software, they sell "User-End Licenses". You are receiving permission to use their software, according to their terms. This is also how they get around refunds -- not possible to pay customers back for a "qualification" or an "approval".

It can happen, however. Batman: Arkham Knight was recalled, and anyone who purchased or pre-purchased the game was given a full refund (not Steam points or some such nonsense -- actual cash returned to their accounts). Pandora's Box has been opened, and now they'll have to begin honoring it for other customers. Just stick with your argument. You paid for the title just like everyone else; why should it not work for you just like everyone else? As long as you can prove you have the minimum hardware specs or better, Steam doesn't have a leg to stand on.

On the "nature of PC gaming":

Based on your argument, I'm sorry for the frustration you will continue to experience. Having worked on a few software development projects in the past, I can assure you it is a massive undertaking that even very skilled and experienced teams struggle with. Often times, even the person who wrote the code cannot, for the life of them, figure out where the heck the issue is -- even though they can reliably re-create a crash or a bug. Then, they think they've found it, write a fix, but they inadvertently break something else. The new issue is not found until another employee stumbles on it 2 days later. Then all of the changes and fixes have to be rolled back, and a different approach must be taken to rectify it. Finally, that's sorted...but guess what? Rolling back and rectifying the issue? That broke three other fixes that a different team just fixed yesterday based on the original fix from two days earlier. Now THOSE fixes need to be checked and rolled back...

That's what a patch process is like for a bit of code that runs self-updating banners for a webpage. Included about 100K lines of code in total, if I remember right. Wild Hunt has over 1 million lines.

 

[DragoNDai]

Beginning at the end, with the Steam thing:

Steam does give refunds, they are just very frugal about it. First, Steam does not sell software, they sell "User-End Licenses". You are receiving permission to use their software, according to their terms. This is also how they get around refunds -- not possible to pay customers back for a "qualification" or an "approval".

It can happen, however. Batman: Arkham Knight was recalled, and anyone who purchased or pre-purchased the game was given a full refund (not Steam points or some such nonsense -- actual cash returned to their accounts). Pandora's Box has been opened, and now they'll have to begin honoring it for other customers. Just stick with your argument. You paid for the title just like everyone else; why should it not work for you just like everyone else? As long as you can prove you have the minimum hardware specs or better, Steam doesn't have a leg to stand on.

They have their refund policy, which, honestly, is insanely generous compared to the rest of the gaming world, and I don't qualify based on that policy. Which, to be honest, is fine. I want CDPR to fix my product. A refund would be a last resort sort of thing. And CDPR IS fixing my product, just not in a timely manner nor are they fixing my product in a way that tells me, as a customer, that my business is appreciated. So I won't be "buying" from them directly anymore. I don't support businesses who don't care about their customers. And, to me, this entire debacle with patch 1.07 has been a giant "F-U" to the customers who have game breaking bugs (like me). Others may not see it that way, and that's their prerogative. I hope that by illustrating my side of things eloquently and with passion I will convince some of the people who don't agree with me to agree with me, even if those people never say a thing.

On the "nature of PC gaming":

Based on your argument, I'm sorry for the frustration you will continue to experience. Having worked on a few software development projects in the past, I can assure you it is a massive undertaking that even very skilled and experienced teams struggle with. Often times, even the person who wrote the code cannot, for the life of them, figure out where the heck the issue is -- even though they can reliably re-create a crash or a bug. Then, they think they've found it, write a fix, but they inadvertently break something else. The new issue is not found until another employee stumbles on it 2 days later. Then all of the changes and fixes have to be rolled back, and a different approach must be taken to rectify it. Finally, that's sorted...but guess what? Rolling back and rectifying the issue? That broke three other fixes that a different team just fixed yesterday based on the original fix from two days earlier. Now THOSE fixes need to be checked and rolled back...

That's what a patch process is like for a bit of code that runs self-updating banners for a webpage. Included about 100K lines of code in total, if I remember right. Wild Hunt has over 1 million lines.

And this is why we, as a customer base, often forgive small problems. The Witcher 3 launched with a LOT of bugs. Some of them, like the ones I'm experiencing, are VERY severe. But I am not complaining because bugs exist. I am complaining because CDPR has been extremely lax in fixing said bugs. They have not fixed the product they sold me in a timely manner, nor has their response to my issues been reasonable or consumer-friendly. I don't expect my software to be bug free at launch. I do expect the devs of my software to fix my software in a reasonable timeframe and to constantly be improving my software until such time as it is fixed. CDPR was doing an excellent job of that up until 1.07, when they decided to put improvements/new content over bug fixes.

To put it another way, I recently bought a new hard drive. It was DOA (the coding pin was broken). That's okay. Crap happens. I sent it back to the company and they sent me out a new one with 2 day air. All told, I had a new working drive in less than 7 days (not business days, actual days) from the time I received the broken drive. I was upset that I received a broken drive initially. It would have been nice to not have to wait those 7 extra days to get the product I'd already paid for. But crap happens, and the company took care of it in a timely manner.

On the other hand, Witcher 3 has been out for almost 2 months. It still has bugs that prevent people from finishing the game. In the last 23 days (to be exact) they have increased the usability of their product by 0%. Since we are unlikely to see the patch this week since they said more news was to come this week, we're looking at a minimum of 28 days since the last patch, and that's if 1.07 gets released on Monday. 28 days where every person who had a broken copy of their product couldn't use said product at all. That's nuts. That's totally unacceptable. It wouldn't work with any other product, and, again, I can't think of another AAA game released in the last 10 years that had that bad of patch turnover time when game-breaking bugs were involved.

So yeah, I get that games are gana be a bit buggy on release. That's fine. What's not fine is leaving your paying customers with a broken product for almost 2 months while also not providing any improvements for a month of that time. It's the combination of things that's the problem, not any individual element on its own.

 

[cavsoldier]

DragoNDai : Just why can't you play the game? be simple if possible

Correction on timings, 1.06 was released 16/06/2015 so it is not a month between that and 1.07 if we ever see it.

A tip for using a forum, try to be brief people may read you then

David

 

[Paul_cz]

The level of extreme fanboi/gurl-ism in this thread is insane. If they hold off the PC patch for console certification, that'll be the last straw. Over a month of wait til for a patch, which is in-and-of-it's-self totally and wholly unacceptable (seriously, name 1 other publisher that's gone over a month between patches while their game still had game-breaking bugs, you can't). But holding back a patch simply because you don't want to hurt the console player's feelings is sheer and utter lunacy. That is some of the most ridiculous, anti-consumer bullcrap I've ever heard of.

And It'll be really easy to tell. If PC patch launches on same day as console patch with same patch notes, than they held it back for no good reason what-so-ever-at-all. If the PC patch has significantly more fixes/improvements or it's launched early, they didn't.

So yeah, CDPR, I once thought of them as a company that actually cared about their customers. This experience has shown me they care no more than EA or Ubi. And if this patch gets held back for consoles, it'll show they care even less about customers that either of those two legendarily awful companies. At least neither of them has EVER held a PC patch back for consoles.

TL; DR: CDPR is quickly going from best PC gaming company to worst video game dev. The decisions they are making recently have been rabidly anti-consumer, and they've shown a complete disregard for their player base. It's disgusting.

ROFL, thanks for the laugh. What an astounding moronics.

 

[griever0507]

First off i would appreciate if u didnt use this thread to start any kind of flame war going on between consoles and pc. With that out of the way i would be extremely grateful if someone from CDPR could explain to me the reason for deciding to hold off pc patch until console certification patch process is done for(If that is indeed the reason for pc patch being delayed and not something else but i highly doubt that)

Marcin Momot announced that the patch 1.07 will come out simultaneously across all platforms as well as PC versions so CDPR will release it simultaneously and not the usual PC first then console. Hope that helps.

 

[SigilFey]

Well, if we lived in a perfect world, and businesses didn't have to worry about little things like employees' salaries, operating costs, contractual deadlines, or human needs like eating, sleeping, and vacation time...then you could hire 200 people to code your game, working round the clock, and a QA team of thousands to individually test each step of the process on the millions of different PC configurations possible. And it would only take about 7-10 years to finish.

The only real option for "stable" PC releases in the real world would be a standardization of all hardware on all systems across the board and titles released for only that particular configuration of hardware options.

I would call them "con-soles".

 

[DragoNDai]

Just why can't you play the game? be simple if possible

Correction on timings, 1.06 was released 16/06/2015 so it is not a month between that and 1.07 if we ever see it.

A tip for using a forum, try to be brief people may read you then

David

There are several quests which I cannot complete. These quests are impeding my ability to continue playing the game. I've said this before. And as for 1.06, it was the 15th, not the 16th. So monday makes 28 days, which is the exact figure I used. Basically a month. 4 weeks. And yeah, I used "a month" a lot because it's quicker to read and comprehend than "28 days," but when I was being precise, I used 28 days, because that is the precise amount of time for the absolute earliest we'll see the patch. It is FAR more likely we'll see the patch the Friday after this (the 17th) at the very earliest, which would put the time between patches to 32 days. And for all we know it could be even farther out than that.

Marcin Momot announced that the patch 1.07 will come out simultaneously across all platforms as well as PC versions so CDPR will release it simultaneously and not the usual PC first then console. Hope that helps.

This is an awful business practice. There is literally no reason to hold back the PC patch for the console patch. The console patch will always be delayed by a few days/a week or so because of verification, something the PC does not suffer from. By doing this, CDPR is punishing it's PC players and proving my point that they are no longer the "Customer First" company that they used to be and instead have become a typical, crappy company like many other studios.

Well, if we lived in a perfect world, and businesses didn't have to worry about little things like employees' salaries, operating costs, contractual deadlines, or human needs like eating, sleeping, and vacation time...then you could hire 200 people to code your game, working round the clock, and a QA team of thousands to individually test each step of the process on the millions of different PC configurations possible. And it would only take about 7-10 years to finish.

The only real option for "stable" PC releases in the real world would be a standardization of all hardware on all systems across the board and titles released for only that particular configuration of hardware options.

I would call them "con-soles".

If this were true, the consoles wouldn't need patches. They do. Therefore you're entire argument is completely invalid. Try again. Or, better yet, please don't. I'm tired of reading comments from people who aren't even trying to be original or interesting and have literally nothing to add to the conversation.

As a general reply to everyone, I'm still waiting on ANYONE to show me ONE SINGLE GAME released in the last 10 years from a AAA studio that has had as bad of customer service as Witcher 3. Just a SINGLE TITLE. That's all I'm looking for and I'll shut up for good. Why can't any of you smack talkers do this? Maybe it's cause you know it's impossible? Yeah, that's why.

 

[cavsoldier]

There are several quests which I cannot complete. These quests are impeding my ability to continue playing the game. I've said this before

I refuse to promulgate your rubbish! saying you can't complete certain quests without giving a reason how, only fuels my opinion of you being probably not quite with it!

You need to use a calculator or take off your shoes and socks in order to count the days from 15/16 06 2015 to 09 07 2015

Why can't you complete these quests?

Please understand to be credible a number of other users experiencing the same issues would make a case for you, in their absence, how do we know you are not just lousy at playing the game?

After 84 Hrs I have complete the main games and all available contracts, I have done most of the quests but find them boring and pointless now, I am at level 35 and about to re-start W3 again, I have had the game from the start and sadly for you I got it for FREE :lol: but for all the updates and free DLCs' I have never, I repeat NEVER had any problems with the game and my PC and I play it on ultra at 1440

But I see you are now more focused on finding a single game from an AAA studio, here is another word to look up 'Troll'

David

 

[kastbjerg83]

I refuse to promulgate your rubbish! saying you can't complete certain quests without giving a reason how, only fuels my opinion of you being probably not quite with it!

You need to use a calculator or take off your shoes and socks in order to count the days from 15/16 06 2015 to 09 07 2015

Why can't you complete these quests?

Please understand to be credible a number of other users experiencing the same issues would make a case for you, in their absence, how do we know you are not just lousy at playing the game?

After 84 Hrs I have complete the main games and all available contracts, I have done most of the quests but find them boring and pointless now, I am at level 35 and about to re-start W3 again, I have had the game from the start and sadly for you I got it for FREE :lol: but for all the updates and free DLCs' I have never, I repeat NEVER had any problems with the game and my PC and I play it on ultra at 1440

But I see you are now more focused on finding a single game from an AAA studio, here is another word to look up 'Troll'

David

First of it is 4 weeks so i dont understand why you say that to him?

And just because YOU dont have any problem with the game, does not mean that nobody have any problems when playing the game. Your ME statement are useless.
Now i dont know what kind of problems this guy has when he is playing the game, but i argree 100% with his statement that waiting 1 month to patch the game is not ok, and that to many people are simply ignoring the fact that games are being sold not working 100%. Thank god that steam made the move to make it easier to refund your broken games when they come out. I doubt WB would have ever pulled Batman from steam if not because of the refund system.
I will proberly let my wallet speak for me next time, since Witcher 2 were also a buggy mess for a long time.

 

[tanaciousmak]

@DragoNDai is correct, it's a practice I find quite terrible and unacceptable. Unfortunately it is perpetuated by a rabid and baseless retort from quite a number of forum members who offer no logical reasoning to rebut all of what @DragoNDai posits.

Many seemingly respond with awful monikers such as "it's just a game" "get a life" and other such inane responses not tackling the actual issue presented; that being shoddy response to critical issues that in all intense and purposes may halt game progress.

The game is exceptional , however how CDPR has handled the release is unfortunate and should not be repeated. Some of us are willing to wait for a game to be at it's best possible state before release.

 

[DragoNDai]

I refuse to promulgate your rubbish! saying you can't complete certain quests without giving a reason how, only fuels my opinion of you being probably not quite with it!

You need to use a calculator or take off your shoes and socks in order to count the days from 15/16 06 2015 to 09 07 2015

Why can't you complete these quests?

Please understand to be credible a number of other users experiencing the same issues would make a case for you, in their absence, how do we know you are not just lousy at playing the game?

After 84 Hrs I have complete the main games and all available contracts, I have done most of the quests but find them boring and pointless now, I am at level 35 and about to re-start W3 again, I have had the game from the start and sadly for you I got it for FREE :lol: but for all the updates and free DLCs' I have never, I repeat NEVER had any problems with the game and my PC and I play it on ultra at 1440

But I see you are now more focused on finding a single game from an AAA studio, here is another word to look up 'Troll'

David

If you're saying this game is quest bug free, than you've obviously not been to the Tech Support forum here and you're the one who should be looking up the definition of Troll.

If you are asking for what specific quests are bugged, for me, I'll be happy to tell you. Not that it matters, in the slightest, because there are a TON of quest bugs that I don't have an I'm sure the people who are experiencing those would like a fix for them as well. And again, visit the tech support forums for all that fun.

But as for me, personally, I am experiencing the following bugs:

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/51210-Gamebreaking-Bug-All-Platforms-Skellige-DLC-Causing-CTD-on-Fast-Travel
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/38013-Person-in-distress-in-velen-no-key-bug
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40981-Bugged-Quest-Nameless-(and-In-Wolf-s-Clothing)
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/36790-Quest-Bug-Dirty-Funds
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/44196-(Bug)-Quest-Now-or-Never?p=1822544#post1822544
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/51053-Fool-s-gold-dlc-bug?p=1826519#post1826519

And this are just the ones I could find in a few minutes of looking on the tech support forums. I'm also having an issue with Price of Honor and several others, including Echos of the Past (a main quest which I cannot advance the storyline without) which have also been talked about on the Tech support forums but I didn't want to dig thru a crapton of pages to find them. So yeah. Suck an egg. You're confrontational tone and your "Well, I didn't have any problems" attitude aren't just unhelpful, they're unwelcome and totally baseless. They make you look like a ridiculous bully with nothing to back up his arguments but insults and yelling. Go away. Your input so far has been nothing but bad. To put it bluntly, sir, you're not contributing in a positive or meaningful way. You need to stop being a giant bully and realize the world doesn't revolve around you. Good day.

SNIP

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I snipped both of your quotes because I don't have much else to add to them except to say "Thanks" and I wanted to make sure you saw it. It gets really frustrating when you have a legitimate, honest complaint about a product you bought and not only does the company that sold you the product treat you with disdain, but their rabid fans hound you for daring to question the glory that is the company. It gets really ugly when you go against the hivemind. So yeah, thanks.

 

[griever0507]

Well atleast CDPR is keeping their word for the simultaneous release on all platforms

 

[DragoNDai]

Well atleast CDPR is keeping their word for the simultaneous release on all platforms

That is a REALLY bad thing. That means they are artificially delaying PC release. It's punishing PC users because no reason. This is literally the worst news in relation to this patch. They could have said "Downloading this patch will cause you to get punched in the face." and I'd be less upset about that. Seriously. You say this like it's a good thing. It is literally the exact opposite of a good thing.

I also noticed in another thread you said this patch was a "Witcher fans dream come true." It is anything but. My dream, as a fan of the Witcher franchise, was to get to play this game when I bought it. Guess CDPR doesn't give a crap about my dreams, do they?

 

[BlackViper]

they are artificially delaying PC release

Seriously? What would be naturally then? They are the creators and if they want to give all their customers patch in the same time, it's their call.

 

[ummagoomba]

First off i would appreciate if u didnt use this thread to start any kind of flame war going on between consoles and pc. With that out of the way i would be extremely grateful if someone from CDPR could explain to me the reason for deciding to hold off pc patch until console certification patch process is done for(If that is indeed the reason for pc patch being delayed and not something else but i highly doubt that)

Where did CDPR state the patch would be delayed? I can't find any comms that support this.

 

[DragoNDai]

Seriously? What would be naturally then? They are the creators and if they want to give all their customers patch in the same time, it's their call.

Natural would be "Hey guys, our game is a broken pile of garbage for some players. Maybe we should release the patches ASAP?"

Natural would NOT be "Hey guys, all the patches are done. XBONE and PS4 patches have to wait about a week or so for Sony and Microsoft to approve them. Steam and GoG, which we own, have no such requirements. We could release those patches today. But lets not. Lets make the PC players wait until the patch comes out on PS4 and XBONE, because screw our PC players. Some of them can't even play our game, but screw them! We already got their money! LOLOLOLOLOLOL"

But, you're 100% right. It is there game and their call. It is their call to make a ridiculously bad business decision that punishes their PC consumers for literally no reason. See, the thing is, you didn't provide a reason for them to do this? Why didn't you? BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOOD REASON FOR THEM TO DO THIS! None. Literally.

As a business, they have every right to do whatever they want with their product. They could never release another patch ever again if they wanted to. And I, as a paying customer, have every right to be pissed off when they make a business decision that is as toxic, backwards, and completely idiotic as this one.

Where did CDPR state the patch would be delayed? I can't find any comms that support this.

No idea where this is coming from actually. But it's seems to be a rumor circulating, and if it's true, it's absolute and complete horse crap. Hopefully it's not true and the ONLY thing that CDPR is guilty of is delaying game-critical updates in favor of additional content.

 

[doktor1]

Where did CDPR state the patch would be delayed? I can't find any comms that support this.

And console patch need week or soo for certification... PC dont need that... Easy...