I suspect so. I wonder if they will even bother to mention Alvin/Jacques in The Wild Hunt.
I wouldn't mind if not. While the Alvin/Grandmaster story was great in the game, I didn't like it in context with the books. It was always highlighted how special Ciri is and then we have this random boy, who is like her. Together with Triss, who behaved like a red-haired Yennefer my two biggest complaints with the game storywise. (at least they fixed Triss character in Witcher 2)
Exactly. Because of the Elder Blood. Even in the gargoyle quest in Witcher 2 there are info about it.
I really hope we also get to see Alvin in the WItcher 3.
If the Wild Hunt is after Ciri, then Alvin would also be their target since Alvin and Ciri both have the same powers. Alvin has the power to jump through time and space, so we can assume that the Grand Master Jacques de Aldersberg was an aged Alvin who had teleported himself from the future in order to accomplish a mission and change the course of history. Grand master repeated the lines Geralt told the young Alvin in the fields in Witcher 1. Maybe the Wild hunt managed to capture Alvin after he disappeared in Witcher 1, then he was able to flee, which would also explain his hatred towards non-humans and especially towards elves since the Wild Hunt riders are of elven race.
I'm not sure this is exactly. Alvin teleported himself in the past...then he is grow up as a mad man because no one has trained him, and he become De Aldesberg.
So it would be impossible to see Alvin in The Witcher 3.
So it would be impossible to see Alvin in The Witcher 3.
Timeline doesn't match up, Alvin the boy doesn't exist after Chapter 4 in TW1, he went back in time many years before to become Jacques. Jacques does not exist past the Epilogue.
Does Alvin not have Elder Blood however? He has the time/space travelling abilities that the Wild Hunt seek, correct? I really like Alvin's story anyway, he's a bit of a mirror to Ciri, to see what could have become of her if she had a different upbringing. The twist revealing Jacques was Alvin was excellent and one of the best moments of the first game. I'd like Alvin and the Grand Master to be referenced by characters, possibly Geralt, Dandelion and Eredin, but he should definitely not appear.
"Shhhh Ciri, only dreams. It's for the greater good."Holly s***! Now you've said that... Will Geralt be forced to k....? Oh! No!
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To be honest - I think CDP RED is trying to erase the whole Alvin plot. You know, him being a mirror image of Ciri etc. Elder blood is not a common feature, the fact that Ciri has it is the pillar of the main storyline for the original saga - and Alvin/Jacques having it flowing in his veins is kind of an asspull to me.
Not to mention that Witcher 1 is mostly poor paraphrase of the books. It had its good moments (mostly related to everything BUT the Alvin plot),but overall... Well, let's just say that I consider the W2 story more complex and stand-alone in terms of alternate future of the charactes and the world and I would consider the second game more official beginning for the CDP RED story.
Not to mention that Witcher 1 is mostly poor paraphrase of the books. It had its good moments (mostly related to everything BUT the Alvin plot),but overall... Well, let's just say that I consider the W2 story more complex and stand-alone in terms of alternate future of the charactes and the world and I would consider the second game more official beginning for the CDP RED story.
I kinda get you here. Whilst I did enjoy the story of TW1, a lot of the aspects of it, such as The Professor, Azar Javed, Salamandra and the whole mutant plot was very "generic CRPG" story plot. They got so many things right with that game but also a lot of stuff that wasn't so good.
I did like Alvin and his development and transformation into Jacques and how the choices you made reflected on a young, impressionable child. That was really good writing even if he was just a stand in for Ciri.
We don't know where he went in time. He ended up in the past, but it doesn't preclude him stopping in the future before that. Bringing Alvin into the plot would make things even more interesting. However I'd prefer characters from the books which didn't have an appearance yet. For example Regis. Bringing him wouldn't be any more far fetched than bringing Alvin.
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The part of the story I enjoyed the most in The Witcher 1 is the pursuit for Salamandra, the whole investigation thing and the plot twist with Javed working for Jacques.
The mutant thing didn't bother me that much, especially because the conflict in the game was, I don't know how to put it, local? Geralt - as the Witcher wasn't saving the world. He was trying to get back potentially dangerous witcher legacy, and get revenge for Leo. That's it, the rest was just coincidence, wrong place in the wrong time, etc. All of that was solid - The Alvin part, however, seemed far-fetched, same goes for romance options that were connected with taking care of him, and it kinda spoiled the fun a little bit for me - even though I love TW1.
Besides, I honestly doubt that CDP RED thought about the series of games at that time. That' why - like I said - the game is more a paraphrase of the original saga, than an original story.
So - No for Alvin from me. Let him rest in peace.
I love the books for what they are and I love the games for what they are. I like the fusion of the two and seeing the books influence the games, which makes me and others who have read the books feel nostalgic. But at the same time I want to see CDPR team's talent and innovation, and I do not want the games to be a direct interpretation of the books with the same characters. I personally think that the games would be a disaster, if the books were directly turned into games; the books were not written to get used as video games script. The best Lord of the Rings game is Shadow of Mordor, because it took from the books but at the same time it was a new take and a fresh experience. So I think CDPR should respect the characters they have created as much as they have respect for the characters from the books.
I do not see an issue with Alvin's reappearance in WItcher 3 regarding timeline. The present is happening even if a version of me from the future comes back from the future. I believe young Alvin, and the Grand Master or Alvin from the future co-existed in Witcher 1. Past, present, and future are like a circle, and although the Grand master died Alvin still lives and if nothing changes he grows up to become the grand master and the cycle repeats itself.
As far as Ciri and Alvin's co-existent goes, I think Alvin would bring out the best out of Ciri's character. They both have the same gift or curse, and I think they can connect with each other on a very deep level. Ciri can emotionally understand what Alvin is going through, and she can help him control his powers. We can have a deep and emotional relationship between Ciri and Alvin, if they meet and connect with each other in the game. Ciri can take on the roll of the big sister and mentor for Alvin. I see so many delicious possibilities and twists coming from this plot.
I do not see an issue with Alvin's reappearance in WItcher 3 regarding timeline. The present is happening even if a version of me from the future comes back from the future. I believe young Alvin, and the Grand Master or Alvin from the future co-existed in Witcher 1. Past, present, and future are like a circle, and although the Grand master died Alvin still lives and if nothing changes he grows up to become the grand master and the cycle repeats itself.
As far as Ciri and Alvin's co-existent goes, I think Alvin would bring out the best out of Ciri's character. They both have the same gift or curse, and I think they can connect with each other on a very deep level. Ciri can emotionally understand what Alvin is going through, and she can help him control his powers. We can have a deep and emotional relationship between Ciri and Alvin, if they meet and connect with each other in the game. Ciri can take on the roll of the big sister and mentor for Alvin. I see so many delicious possibilities and twists coming from this plot.
According to translations of the Gamestar magazine the Ciri section have more of a linear action adventure experience, and they last between 5-10 hours. It is also notable that we cannot customize her and she does not have a skill tree. She plays very different from Geralt, and it is very noticeable.
I do not like the idea, because I believe these sections are going to be immersion breaking especially with the open world nature of the Witcher 3. Players upgrade Geralt and tailor him to their play style and they get immersed in free roaming and the open world just to get interrupted by a drawn out linear sequence playing as Ciri who has pre-determined skill sets which forces the players to play in a certain way Also playing as Ciri for 5-10 hours is a pretty substantial amount considering the main story is said to be around 50 hours long.
I do not like the idea, because I believe these sections are going to be immersion breaking especially with the open world nature of the Witcher 3. Players upgrade Geralt and tailor him to their play style and they get immersed in free roaming and the open world just to get interrupted by a drawn out linear sequence playing as Ciri who has pre-determined skill sets which forces the players to play in a certain way Also playing as Ciri for 5-10 hours is a pretty substantial amount considering the main story is said to be around 50 hours long.
I dont remember if ive mentioned it before but i hope that Ciri and Alvin have some sort of connection. Like if Ciri turns out to be Alvin's mother that b such a huge twist.
I'm happy enough about it for first playthrough, when the story is new. But I'm fairly concerned about how it'll affect replayability, unless you can just hit ESC and bypass the whole thing.