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2nd PLAYABLE character confirmed as Ciri

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2nd PLAYABLE character confirmed as Ciri

  • For a short period of time in order to supplement the story. (like in W2)

    Votes: 208 55.3%
  • For a long period of time. (Ex: completing quests with 2nd character)

    Votes: 127 33.8%
  • I don't want a 2nd playable character, I want The White Wolf.

    Votes: 41 10.9%

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Ljesnjanin

Forum veteran
#61
Dec 6, 2014
nemanja_pozega said:
We won't know anytime soon I guess. This can be a good thing in my opinion, as it can help us connect to the character more, as Ciri isn't that familiar even to book readers since it has past so much time (it's probably her in question :D)
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Yup, we must wait until Feb to see how it will work...No point in speculations.
And yes, it is probably Ciri...Witcheress, sorceress, good lookin' girl, with cool badass scar across her face...Everyone's happy...I guess :hmmm:

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Aes Sídhe said:
I read the use of "significant" to mean that the time spent as the other character would matter significantly to the narrative, not indicative of the quantity of time spent.

I see no reason, even technically adding a magical skillset, why the character couldn't be Yen or Ciri.
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Or both...I don't know...But I can say that I'm very surprised.
 
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Garrison72

Mentor
#62
Dec 6, 2014
I agree that it's obviously Ciri. Initially, I really wanted this. Now I'm of a different mind as it could make the story feel convoluted. This was to be Geralt's last hurrah. It was an interesting concept in TW2, but I don't think it made the game any better. The best solution, and it's still a possibility though a slim one, is playing as Ciri in a DLC or expansion pack after the main story in done.
 
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nemanja_pozega

Forum regular
#63
Dec 6, 2014
slimgrin said:
it could make the story feel convoluted.
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It could, but it can also significantly add to the story if its done with subtlety and style.
 
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BroccoliSouP

Senior user
#64
Dec 6, 2014
slimgrin said:
I agree that it's obviously Ciri. Initially, I really wanted this. Now I'm of a different mind as it could make the story feel convoluted. This was to be Geralt's last hurrah. It was an interesting concept in TW2, but I don't think it made the game any better. The best solution, and it's still a possibility though a slim one, is playing as Ciri in a DLC or expansion pack after the main story in done.
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Well. There is simple reason why it makes the gameplay worse. As you are getting involved throughout the game you are becoming Geralt(not literally-in roleplaying way) and suddenly game tears you out and you are someone else, then if you get involved as other character game tears you one more time after you become Geralt again. It takes time to get immersed back into his role. It certainly won´t help immersion but it is good way how to tell additional story informations. So you trade something for something.
 
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DBag

Rookie
#65
Dec 6, 2014
slimgrin said:
It was an interesting concept in TW2, but I don't think it made the game any better. .
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I'll have to disagree. It had a novel feel to it, which really boosted the story-telling aspect for me. Such a device has strengths in deep and rich storytelling, and I hope CDPR incorporate it nicely in TW3.
 
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kissybyc

Rookie
#66
Dec 6, 2014
DBag said:
I'll have to disagree. It had a novel feel to it, which really boosted the story-telling aspect for me. Such a device has strengths in deep and rich storytelling, and I hope CDPR incorporate it nicely in TW3.
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I agree. It all depends on whether playing as Ciri enhances storytelling or not.
 
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BroccoliSouP

Senior user
#67
Dec 6, 2014
By the way I expect more than one aditional playable character.
 
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s-jay2676

Rookie
#68
Dec 6, 2014
Interesting news. This could be the deciding factor whether to buy this game or not. Depending on who the other playable character is, of course.
 
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shawn_kh

Rookie
#69
Dec 6, 2014
slimgrin said:
I agree that it's obviously Ciri. Initially, I really wanted this. Now I'm of a different mind as it could make the story feel convoluted. This was to be Geralt's last hurrah. It was an interesting concept in TW2, but I don't think it made the game any better. The best solution, and it's still a possibility though a slim one, is playing as Ciri in a DLC or expansion pack after the main story in done.
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Exactly what think. I really do not like the idea of switching between Geralt and Ciri in the main game.
1. This is supposed to be Geralt's final chapter. He needs to be the main focus, and he deserves to go out with a bang. Playing as Ciri would take away from this, and shift the focus from Geralt to Ciri.I reallt hope that it's not a sequel bait, where CDPR is slowly shifting the focus from Geralt to Ciri. So players get ready to play as Ciri in Witcher 4 or whatever it's going to be called.
2. It is also very immersion breaking, because you are forcefully taken away from playing as Geralt and you are forced to play as Ciri.
3. My biggest concern is that the game is going to end up being like the books. I disdained Ciri sections, because it was forced, unnecessary, and it pissed me off. You get into Geralt's mature and complex character and story, then you are suddenly shut off and forced to read on a brat Marry Sue. I wanted to skip or quickly get through Ciri sections to get back to Geralt.
4. If Geralt is not the protagonist of the next Witcher game, then I'm not going to be playing it period. Geralt is my main attraction to the Witcher universe, and I don't find Ciri to be interesting. I understand that many love her, and they want her to replace Geralt. They deserve a full game with Ciri as protagonist. With this situation Geralt fans are not getting what they want, and Ciri fans are not getting what they want. Geralt fans want to play only as Geralt, and we are forced to play as Ciri. And Ciri fans are not getting a full gaming experience with Ciri.
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#70
Dec 6, 2014
ONLY ONCE said:
GTA V did it well, it really kept the story moving for me. It was less boring because I could switch between 3 main players, just about anytime I wanted to in line with the story was neat for that game. I do like how rockstar games feel and play out like a really good movie, I can see TW3 doing this well too. Keeps us on our toes and always guessin;)
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It won't be as in GTA.

Marcin Momot said:
Just wanted to add something regarding the second playable character, who will be very important for the story of the game by the way. You won't be able to switch between them at will. There will be certain moments in the plot when you assume control of that other character. The time you spend playing as that other character, however, will be significant.
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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#71
Dec 6, 2014
Kallelinski said:
It won't be as in GTA.
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I'm fine with that too, I mostly want to play as Geralt. I hope this other playable character does not get to much in the way of that. I hope the game still looks fucking amazing on all platforms at launch, I hope it's fun and worth all the crazy hype too.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#72
Dec 6, 2014
shawn_kh said:
Exactly what think. I really do not like the idea of switching between Geralt and Ciri in the main game.
1. This is supposed to be Geralt's final chapter. He needs to be the main focus, and he deserves to go out with a bang. Playing as Ciri would take away from this, and shift the focus from Geralt to Ciri.I reallt hope that it's not a sequel bait, where CDPR is slowly shifting the focus from Geralt to Ciri. So players get ready to play as Ciri in Witcher 4 or whatever it's going to be called.
2. It is also very immersion breaking, because you are forcefully taken away from playing as Geralt and you are forced to play as Ciri.
3. My biggest concern is that the game is going to end up being like the books. I disdained Ciri sections, because it was forced, unnecessary, and it pissed me off. You get into Geralt's mature and complex character and story, then you are suddenly shut off and forced to read on a brat Marry Sue. I wanted to skip or quickly get through Ciri sections to get back to Geralt.
4. If Geralt is not the protagonist of the next Witcher game, then I'm not going to be playing it period. Geralt is my main attraction to the Witcher universe, and I don't find Ciri to be interesting. I understand that many love her, and they want her to replace Geralt. They deserve a full game with Ciri as protagonist. With this situation Geralt fans are not getting what they want, and Ciri fans are not getting what they want. Geralt fans want to play only as Geralt, and we are forced to play as Ciri. And Ciri fans are not getting a full gaming experience with Ciri.
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Yeah, they are really dividing resources here, both game assets and story time. Will Ciri get customizable armor? Will she have her own skill tree? These are all things that if Ciri fans don't get, they might feel gypped. And if they do, then that's a lot of resources taken away from developing Geralt. I'm fine if it plays out like it did in TW2, with short sections, but the fact they announced a second playable character implies we'll be spending lots of time with Ciri. And how do we reconcile scenes where the two talk, but we can only role play one? Then it could be a huge immersion breaker. It's a big risk to do this in the final game of a trilogy defined by a specific protagonist. It did work in Arkham City but I don't have the same attachment to those characters. I hope they didn't do this because so many gamers simply didn't want to play as Geralt. We'll all have the opportunity to play as both genders in Cyberpunk.
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#73
Dec 6, 2014
I still think we won't be able to fight much with the other character(s), if at all. Switching the character is story relevant, so why switching the protagonist? just to slay more monsters/bandits with the same gameplay as with Geralt?

I think we will see story elements from another POV to understand the whole story and not just to fight as another person. We can already do that with Geralt, there is no need for another character for that.

Maybe we will play as Ciri in another world, to learn more about the Wild Hunt. Geralt can't obviously access it, so we have to switch the character.
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#74
Dec 6, 2014
So it won't be Letho, Odrin or Berengar then, bugger.
 
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randyrhoads

Rookie
#75
Dec 6, 2014
shawn_kh said:
Exactly what think. I really do not like the idea of switching between Geralt and Ciri in the main game.
1. This is supposed to be Geralt's final chapter. He needs to be the main focus, and he deserves to go out with a bang. Playing as Ciri would take away from this, and shift the focus from Geralt to Ciri.I reallt hope that it's not a sequel bait, where CDPR is slowly shifting the focus from Geralt to Ciri. So players get ready to play as Ciri in Witcher 4 or whatever it's going to be called.
2. It is also very immersion breaking, because you are forcefully taken away from playing as Geralt and you are forced to play as Ciri.
3. My biggest concern is that the game is going to end up being like the books. I disdained Ciri sections, because it was forced, unnecessary, and it pissed me off. You get into Geralt's mature and complex character and story, then you are suddenly shut off and forced to read on a brat Marry Sue. I wanted to skip or quickly get through Ciri sections to get back to Geralt.
4. If Geralt is not the protagonist of the next Witcher game, then I'm not going to be playing it period. Geralt is my main attraction to the Witcher universe, and I don't find Ciri to be interesting. I understand that many love her, and they want her to replace Geralt. They deserve a full game with Ciri as protagonist. With this situation Geralt fans are not getting what they want, and Ciri fans are not getting what they want. Geralt fans want to play only as Geralt, and we are forced to play as Ciri. And Ciri fans are not getting a full gaming experience with Ciri.
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Absolutely this. Now get out of my head!
 
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gregski

Moderator
#76
Dec 6, 2014
shawn_kh said:
Exactly what think. I really do not like the idea of switching between Geralt and Ciri in the main game.
1. This is supposed to be Geralt's final chapter. He needs to be the main focus, and he deserves to go out with a bang. Playing as Ciri would take away from this, and shift the focus from Geralt to Ciri.I reallt hope that it's not a sequel bait, where CDPR is slowly shifting the focus from Geralt to Ciri. So players get ready to play as Ciri in Witcher 4 or whatever it's going to be called.
2. It is also very immersion breaking, because you are forcefully taken away from playing as Geralt and you are forced to play as Ciri.
3. My biggest concern is that the game is going to end up being like the books. I disdained Ciri sections, because it was forced, unnecessary, and it pissed me off. You get into Geralt's mature and complex character and story, then you are suddenly shut off and forced to read on a brat Marry Sue. I wanted to skip or quickly get through Ciri sections to get back to Geralt.
4. If Geralt is not the protagonist of the next Witcher game, then I'm not going to be playing it period. Geralt is my main attraction to the Witcher universe, and I don't find Ciri to be interesting. I understand that many love her, and they want her to replace Geralt. They deserve a full game with Ciri as protagonist. With this situation Geralt fans are not getting what they want, and Ciri fans are not getting what they want. Geralt fans want to play only as Geralt, and we are forced to play as Ciri. And Ciri fans are not getting a full gaming experience with Ciri.
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Well, you just gave some good arguments why it WON'T be Ciri. At least in my opinion :)

Ciri is too obvious for me. TW3 is supposed to be about Geralt's personal journey in search of his loved ones - and that's why those loved ones should be somewhere in the distance, not taking main stage, so Geralt's story can shine.

Playing as Ciri wouldn't also benefit the storytelling. Geralt/Yennefer could be better, as they both might cooperate at some point in the game on finding their "daughter", giving different perspective on the same issue. Hell, even Geralt/Eredin would give the players more context - why is Geralt in such a hurry? Why is the Wild Hunt chasing Ciri? Those could be the angles answered with using this type of storytelling technique.

Playing as Geralt and Ciri brings much less to the table, so I definitely hope the writers decided to explore other options.
 
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shawn_kh

Rookie
#77
Dec 7, 2014
gregski said:
Well, you just gave some good arguments why it WON'T be Ciri. At least in my opinion :)

Ciri is too obvious for me. TW3 is supposed to be about Geralt's personal journey in search of his loved ones - and that's why those loved ones should be somewhere in the distance, not taking main stage, so Geralt's story can shine.

Playing as Ciri wouldn't also benefit the storytelling. Geralt/Yennefer could be better, as they both might cooperate at some point in the game on finding their "daughter", giving different perspective on the same issue. Hell, even Geralt/Eredin would give the players more context - why is Geralt in such a hurry? Why is the Wild Hunt chasing Ciri? Those could be the angles answered with using this type of storytelling technique.

Playing as Geralt and Ciri brings much less to the table, so I definitely hope the writers decided to explore other options.
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I hope you are right :)
 
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Sephira

Forum veteran
#78
Dec 7, 2014
Kallelinski said:
I still think we won't be able to fight much with the other character(s), if at all. Switching the character is story relevant, so why switching the protagonist? just to slay more monsters/bandits with the same gameplay as with Geralt?

I think we will see story elements from another POV to understand the whole story and not just to fight as another person. We can already do that with Geralt, there is no need for another character for that.

Maybe we will play as Ciri in another world, to learn more about the Wild Hunt. Geralt can't obviously access it, so we have to switch the character.
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gregski said:
Well, you just gave some good arguments why it WON'T be Ciri. At least in my opinion :)

Ciri is too obvious for me. TW3 is supposed to be about Geralt's personal journey in search of his loved ones - and that's why those loved ones should be somewhere in the distance, not taking main stage, so Geralt's story can shine.

Playing as Ciri wouldn't also benefit the storytelling. Geralt/Yennefer could be better, as they both might cooperate at some point in the game on finding their "daughter", giving different perspective on the same issue. Hell, even Geralt/Eredin would give the players more context - why is Geralt in such a hurry? Why is the Wild Hunt chasing Ciri? Those could be the angles answered with using this type of storytelling technique.

Playing as Geralt and Ciri brings much less to the table, so I definitely hope the writers decided to explore other options.
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I agree with both even if there's a different opinion, but I think we'll get just a TW2-like switch between Geralt and the other character (Yennefer, or Ciri, or both?) to explain some things you wouldn't get playing only as Geralt.
 
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randyrhoads

Rookie
#79
Dec 7, 2014
Synvael said:
I agree with both even if there's a different opinion, but I think we'll get just a TW2-like switch between Geralt and the other character (Yennefer, or Ciri, or both?) to explain some things you wouldn't get playing only as Geralt.
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Marcin said it would be for a prolonged period of time so we should be in complete control of the 2nd character otherwise it would be an even bigger bummer. I hope it could be made optional through main story choices and could be skipped if you go a certain path.
 
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Sephira

Forum veteran
#80
Dec 7, 2014
randyrhoads said:
Marcin said it would be for a prolonged period of time so we should be in complete control of the 2nd character otherwise it would be an even bigger bummer. I hope it could be made optional through main story choices and could be skipped if you go a certain path.
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You'll spend significant time with the other character but I don't think it will be so "prolonged", and personally I like this option,: the real good thing playing as Ciri would be visiting other places but not combat which is similar to Geralt's one and we have him to do so. Playing as Yennefer instead you can experience a different combat style experience, magic, not so bad imho.

:p
 
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