3rd expansion and beyond...

[gtcarlson]

Someday I would like CDPR to do a re-imagining of the Witcher in the eyes of the author of the books. I don't mind if they break away from the choices and have Geralt react like he would in the books. I haven't read the books but I've read up on what some of them contained and about Geralt being way more powerful than he is in the games and much better with the signs than he is now. I would love to see a game with the author's vision and see how that would be done in a game format. I would like to see how Triss for example would behave if she was cannon to the books and not taking advantage of Geralt. It would be awesome if the author was over seeing it

I'll start with this; I think you got some the wrong idea from someone about book Geralt.

He is not made out to be some super powerful guy in the books I'd say a decent amount weaker than in game. At most he takes on I think it's about 6 trained fighters, and pretty much any contract is a matter of life and death. The books it's more about him being stubborn and determined than about especially powerful.

As for signs I'd say games are once again more powerful than books. If you've seen the "night to remember" video that's pretty much how any contract in the books go. Maybe a sign or two and a potion for difficult foes. And he hardly uses signs in the saga.

And in my opinion Triss is pretty spot on with the books. Her and Yen were good friends and she gets with Geralt during one of their "breaks". Triss is sweet, but firm and clever exactly what I get from her in game. But I may have painted book Triss that way based on me playing witcher 1 and 2 before reading the books.

Short version:
I read the books after playing Witcher 1 and 2 and found Geralt less powerful than in game, he used signs way less in the books, and Triss acts pretty much like Triss.

It would be neat to see the authors version but he's made it pretty clear he's not too interested in video games. Also the OP was trying to keep off the topic what we want in an expansion, instead thinking on is it a possibility.

 

[Zyvik]

And in my opinion Triss is pretty spot on with the books. Her and Yen were good friends and she gets with Geralt during one of their "breaks". Triss is sweet, but firm and clever exactly what I get from her in game. But I may have painted book Triss that way based on me playing witcher 1 and 2 before reading the books.

Short version:
I read the books after playing Witcher 1 and 2 and found Geralt less powerful than in game, he used signs way less in the books, and Triss acts pretty much like Triss.

In TW1 Triss acts like a poor imitation of Yennefer.In TW2 and TW3 she acts like book Triss with less depth and character development.Also she has the wrong hair and eye color in the games.

 

[BLACK_CAT_ANIME]

I'll start with this; I think you got some the wrong idea from someone about book Geralt.

He is not made out to be some super powerful guy in the books I'd say a decent amount weaker than in game. At most he takes on I think it's about 6 trained fighters, and pretty much any contract is a matter of life and death. The books it's more about him being stubborn and determined than about especially powerful.

As for signs I'd say games are once again more powerful than books. If you've seen the "night to remember" video that's pretty much how any contract in the books go. Maybe a sign or two and a potion for difficult foes. And he hardly uses signs in the saga.

And in my opinion Triss is pretty spot on with the books. Her and Yen were good friends and she gets with Geralt during one of their "breaks". Triss is sweet, but firm and clever exactly what I get from her in game. But I may have painted book Triss that way based on me playing witcher 1 and 2 before reading the books.

Short version:
I read the books after playing Witcher 1 and 2 and found Geralt less powerful than in game, he used signs way less in the books, and Triss acts pretty much like Triss.

It would be neat to see the authors version but he's made it pretty clear he's not too interested in video games. Also the OP was trying to keep off the topic what we want in an expansion, instead thinking on is it a possibility.

Thank you for clarifying it for me. I never read the books so I wasn't sure but, I've seen arguments about Geralt being more over powered in the books and Triss would never take advantage of him or use magic to make him fall in love with him. I've seen so many arguments and I'm unable to verify which is true since I haven't read the books. As for my post, I'm just saying I would like to see his story from the author's point of view so I don't have to read the books I like reading books, but I'm concerned I may misunderstand things due to the fan translations not being 100% accurate and I only speak and write English. Btw, I'm not suggesting them re-making the franchise as the only way to tell the author's story. I'm perfectly fine with a stand alone expansion using the same engine or an add on to the main game with a flash back story. The CDPR version of Geralt's story is over, so I'd love to see it through his eyes, but I guess it's a pipe dream and will never happen.

 

[mukhlisz]

i just hope after Witcher 3 : Episode 2 (Blood & Wine) they won't pull a Valve over us. no cliffhanger endings please.

 

[sv3672]

i just hope after Witcher 3 : Episode 2 (Blood & Wine) they won't pull a Valve over us. no cliffhanger endings please.

It is unlikely to happen, since the main game does not end on a cliffhanger, and the expansion packs are most likely just large sidequests not related to the main story. Chances are they will not even include major characters from The Witcher 3, only new ones and some brought back from the previous games. Half-Life 2 is different, because its episodes are basically short sequels that directly continue the story, rather than just optional side-content.

or use magic to make him fall in love with him

Actually, that is in one of the books, although the details are not explained, but not in the games.

Btw, I'm not suggesting them re-making the franchise as the only way to tell the author's story. I'm perfectly fine with a stand alone expansion using the same engine or an add on to the main game with a flash back story. The CDPR version of Geralt's story is over, so I'd love to see it through his eyes, but I guess it's a pipe dream and will never happen.

I doubt they would do that, and it would be kind of admitting that their game is not how it should have been made, even though they have every right to make changes compared to the books in the interest of creating a better game.

 

[Krull32]

Let's dream together. Just imagine CDPR putting all that stuff back into act 3 that was cut because of time contraints.... *instant gamergasm

Wild Hunt attacking Novigrad...Real witch sabbath...etc etc

I would gladly pay for it....no doubt...

 

[RiseOfRose1]

Wild Hunt attacking Novigrad...Real witch sabbath...etc etc

I would gladly pay for it....no doubt...

And main characters after postgame

 

[Pav94an]

Wild Hunt attacking Novigrad - Whole city frozen - Crazy fights in the icy streets.

With help from the Lodge and others e.g. Voorhis? King of Beggars, Siggy, Cleaver.

Guards trying to defend against the Hunt and catch the sorceresses at the same time.

Alarm bells ringing, citizens screaming and running for cover.

Tough fight but eventually manage to push back the Hunt and the Lodge escapes the city.

But someone dies. Several are badly injured.

:sleepy:--- I can only dream ----


This would be incredible!!!!

 

[Krull32]

This would be incredible!!!!

True, and at least The Wild Hunt would show the world they are a real threat.
Atm you see nothing....NPC's are only talking here and there ...they have nothing to fear...

 

[Pav94an]

True, and at least The Wild Hunt would show the world they are a real threat.
Atm you see nothing....NPC's are are only talking here and there ...they have nothing to fear...

And it would give Eredin a huge chance to shine - he could have some badass monologues and really flesh out his character before he kills someone - either from the Lodge or one of the Big 3 that rule Novigrad, or even Voorhis.

And then Immlerith/Caranthir serverely injure a few others - permanently scarring them or something, maybe someone loses an arm.

 

[Krull32]

Aye, sounds very good :like:

 

[Pav94an]

Aye, sounds very good :like:

Sigh.....

If only - I really want this to happen but it seems so unlikely.

But I think it would fix a lot of the problems people have with the lack of Lodge involment and Eredin getting hardly any screen time.



Plus it would be the biggest fight in the game and a chance to add another amazing soundtrack during the fight.

 

[FarrySquall]

And it would give Eredin a huge chance to shine - he could have some badass monologues and really flesh out his character before he kills someone - either from the Lodge or one of the Big 3 that rule Novigrad, or even Voorhis.

And then Immlerith/Caranthir serverely injure a few others - permanently scarring them or something, maybe someone loses an arm.

Nice idea :thumbsup:

IMO it should set it right after all main quest in Norvigrad Act 3 have been complete and before all character set sail to Skellige, maybe Ciri make some error and Eredin is able to locate her

Hmm, what about add some more Radovid there

 

[Krull32]

If only - I really want this to happen but it seems so unlikely.

Dont say that... hope dies last
At least i think so ...

Hmm, what about add some more Radovid there

There is always time and room for radovid...
He needs general more content...

 

[ReptilePZ]

Just a reminder:

As opposed to a thread which focuses solely on what content would be good to have included in future potential expansions, I am opening this thread as a means to get the general feeling, and feedback from the community on "IF" there will be any additional major expansions after 'Hearts of Stone' & 'Blood and Wine'.

Let's get this back on topic, please, there are plenty of threads in the Suggestions subforum if you'd like to discuss ideas for future expansions

 

[web-head91]

Just a reminder:



Let's get this back on topic, please, there are plenty of threads in the Suggestions subforum if you'd like to discuss ideas for future expansions

true, besides, the first expansion is almost ready i think. i remember seeing it somewhere.

 

[Riven-Twain]

Let's get this back on topic, please, there are plenty of threads in the Suggestions subforum if you'd like to discuss ideas for future expansions

I was about to make the same remark myself. While all these suggestions do indicate support and interest for future expansions, which this thread is mean to gauge, we needn't go into all the details, or opinions of individual propositions, here.

 

[Tangsta]

In all likelihood, I think a 3rd expansion is slim at this stage. They'll be adding in more Triss romance dialogue, but that would be the extent of their commitment to this game, now and in the future, other than stamping out bugs and balance changes. Right now they're most likely in full-focus mode for Cyberpunk, and that should keep them super busy for at least the next couple of years.

It's a darn shame, of course, but hopefully they've learnt a lot from developing W3 and won't be repeating the same mistakes with Cyberpunk.

 

[msg4gsm]

Just a reminder:



Let's get this back on topic, please, there are plenty of threads in the Suggestions subforum if you'd like to discuss ideas for future expansions

Just reiterating the obvious. Let's not get the thread pulled by having a mod lump it in with the dozens of others suggesting specific content (granted that Novigrad battle / Eredin screen time does sound amazing)


At any rate, as regards the OP's suggestion that CDPR take a poll and use that as the basis for a third or fourth expansion's story-line .... that, I'm not so sure about. We seem to forget that at least six million people purchased Wild Hunt. Out of those, how many actually frequent the forums? Two, three hundred at most? That's about .00005% of the fanbase. And when have we ever agreed on anything as a community? I'd rather they come up with their own narratives.[/QUOTE]

Although this is a well thought out, reasonable sentiment, my hope was for a voting poll based, on content "pre-approved" by the CDPR dev team. A narrative which has already been considered, or should have been included in the org vanilla game. This way we (hopefully) avoid the exact situation you mention. I mean I get it; If we just had dozens of random fans (like myself; custom high level monster 10 pack) submitting their wants and hopes, it would be a madhouse, and obviously could never get done. I guess my original proposal was trying to find a way toward a 3rd expansion that is reasonably possible content wise, and economically feasible in terms of man power and development by CDPR.

In all likelihood, I think a 3rd expansion is slim at this stage. They'll be adding in more Triss romance dialogue, but that would be the extent of their commitment to this game, now and in the future, other than stamping out bugs and balance changes. Right now they're mostly likely in full-focus mode for Cyberpunk, and that should keep them super busy for at least the next couple of years

Although I sadly agree that a 3rd expansion is slim at this moment, I just want to reiterate the fact that it has already been acknowledged by CDPR that TW3 is going to get full support until 2017, at which time company focus will shift to CP. With nearly all the known content already complete (or inching towards it) and the very last of this content scheduled for first quarter 2016 release, it leaves nearly "9 months" of time with nothing really happening. I could obviously be way off, but I expect 1.09 will finally get the game about as good as it will ever be, with the exception of never ending FPS and performance tuning. If this is the case, and you combine that fact with the available time left in the support window.....

A 3rd expansion "is" very much a possibility....

 

[Arius87]

I sincerely hope that we'll see a third expansions. Keep in mind that this will be the last witcher game featuring Geralt as main protagonist. And to be honest I don't want another witchergame with a different protagonist than the White Wolf (which, if it ever happens, is far far away anyhow).
I want as much content as possible playing as Geralt.