No, but when the CEO says "we will make consoles run just as well as the PC version did on release which we are all proud off" without even mentioning the glaring issues of completely broken systems and things that make absolutely no sense like entire perks intended for mechanics that are not in the game you'll get people who would take issue with that.
It wasn't mia culpa we didn't deliver what we promised it was we delivered what we promised on the PC or at least we think we do, we will continue to support it with more content but now our first priority is to make the game run somehow on 7+ year old consoles.
It's not just about the cut content, the entire game is just one rushed job with half of the pieces missing this is why you have mods that don't work, a stat system that is not even something you would want as a placeholder during the early prototyping stage, perks that make you undetectable in water or tied to hacking mechanics that aren't in the game (anymore at least), things like the gorilla arms that were intended to be used to force open doors and other things (it's still in their description) being made irrelevant the nanowire that was turned from a remote port hacking tool to Wonder Woman's whip for no reason etc.
The game at it's core is unfinished and broken, no performance or bug fixing would change that and until CDPR would not acknowledge that people would be upset.
When you have a CEO that says that he is proud of a game where no one can drive and cops teleport into a freaking elevator or a bathroom the moment a warrant is triggered yes it's time for pitchforks, or at least the middle finger.
Poor assessment in my humble opinion. I'm one of many that have been extremely critical of CDPR and CP2077 but if you can not see the committment they are making by just that initial statement, you missing the point.
Now of course, we will see how this post ages, if you keep it active.
Just imagine that the free DLC are the extensions... why not, we can always dream
Free DLC for a broken game will still be broken, every core system in this game is broken.
Someone had mentioned CDPR are considering AI a bug, which probably includes all AI in the game (I know how easy it is for one line to completely mess up an entire page of code) and there are random points in the game where something happens that just seems way above what the rest of the game is doing (There was a spot where I cleared out a Valantino gang, I had not left the area yet and after a couple minutes a car flies up and a bunch of Valantinos get out and come after me)
So there's a big chance that some of this stuff you mention is grouped in their "bug fixes" comment.
So there's a big chance that some of this stuff you mention is grouped in their "bug fixes" comment.
Who hasn't mentioned a single issue with the game and there are plenty of them other than it runs like dog shit on the previous gen consoles.
In fact they explicitly mentioned that they are very proud of the state of the game as it has been shipped on the PC and that's their target for the base consoles, that isn't commitment to anything besides the fact that they quite likely have to fix that if they ever want to publish anything again on the consoles and not be liable for lawsuits by Sony, Microsoft and retailers for the loss they suffered for having to process refunds.
Teleporting police isn't a bug, it's due to the lack of an AI system that can actually handle world traversal.
There is a reason why every car chase in the game is scripted, and why even the single race event (which was likely planned as a side activity) is scripted. You compete against a timer which is what defines your placement in the race, your contestants spawn behind or in front of you constantly based on your location in the map and "how well" you are doing - the AI cannot drive.
The crowd is the same, there are two types of crowds the named NPC (those who you scan and have a name) that were hand placed by the developers and are on scripted paths and rails, and filler NPCs that just spawn essentially based on a heatmap in certain areas like sidewalks and latter just scan as NC citizens and they are the ones that are impacted by the crowd density settings and neither of them have any behavioral AI, routines or anything even remotely complex or interesting about them. In fact their crowd system is not only stupid, but stupidly designed and one of the major performance hogs in the game, it's too computationally complicated for the very rudimentary behavior it supports, they actually do collision detection with ray tracing from every entity instead of just simulating the entire crowd as a whole the result is that you are wasting A LOT of resources for absolutely no benefit because it's too fucking slow and they don't have any interesting behavior on top of that.
This game doesn't need a month or two of works, it's probably 2 years away from being finished and the fact that they were proud of their PC release says quite a lot.
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They were always going to focus on getting the console versions patched before anything else. Likewise there was no way they were going to commit to improvements to A.I and other content until they had fully tested it on all platforms to see what was achievable. After being burned for overpromising before, expect overly cautious communication until later in the year.
The lack of updates now does not signify that they aren't aware or planning to add systems to the game.
The lack of updates now does not signify that they aren't aware or planning to add systems to the game.
if the haters gonna be true to their words...
we whont see them for a long time... or even never again
but i guess... that whont be the case
A valid argument could be drawn that the AI issues are due to bugs. That being said said, mentioning it is just as subjective as the OP's statements.
I would say, we should raise the question of what is going to be addressed in the bug fixes on the official "Commitment" thread and focus those kinds of questions to hopefully get a response from Dev team.
No. The problem is that instead of an apology, they released 5 minutes of new lies. They didn't know about the status of the console versions? Then why did they forbid people from talking about them before the release, and prevent reviewers from showing their own footage of the game?
I sort of agree with this assessment. I don't want to hear that they are planning future projects. I'm not even sure CDPR will exist much longer with all the legal shenanigans they are involved with. It was a half-hearted mea culpa in regards to the console version. It's great to hear about bug fixes coming but what about the stuff that was clearly cut and they did a poor job of hiding that fact? There's clearly a 6th skill tree that can't be accessed, is that going to be added back in a future DLC?
You can see Jonny Silverhands
I'm referring to what the roadmap for the "multiple updates and improvements" section will look like.
That doesn't address what I'm talking about. He only talked about bugs and legacy console performance. He didn't talk about any other issues with the game. The road map doesn't reference any issues either.
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The game is no where near what was advertised. What we hoped or thought it would be was what they advertised. The game very factually is missing a lot of contend their marketing showed would be in the game.
Correct. That section, including patch 1.1 and 1.2 needs to be properly defined to the community, so we can understand what they have identified as bugs and if any of the core mechanic issues are on that list i.e :
1) Weapon balancing (Crit chance, armor ignore values etc)
2) Ai behaviour
etc etc
Mhm, yes. I don't think we're going to see that until the patch notes drop sadly, but I have a sliver of hope that alot of the "problems" of the game are going to be addressed in those patches, outside of just bugs.
I'd reckon that patch #1 will be mainly dealing with getting the last-gen consoles up to par with a few important improvements for all platforms, while patch #2 is going to deal with the majority of the ironing and will serve as a springboard into true content updates. I just hope that patch #2 is going to include some of the basic stuff that we've all mentioned which should be easy enough to implement.
If they say anything about what MIGHT be in patches 1.1 and 1.2 and do not match that exactly then people will most likely say that CDPR lied again therefore just saying that there are 2 updates coming with nothing about what they are working on then they might not be raked over the coals as much
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Just so people are aware I watched the 48 minute game play video in 2018 and then stopped paying attention to any news about CP2077 primarily because I believed that CDPR was overreaching on goals and knew that things would be cut/delayed for a variety of reasons.
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Just so people are aware I watched the 48 minute game play video in 2018 and then stopped paying attention to any news about CP2077 primarily because I believed that CDPR was overreaching on goals and knew that things would be cut/delayed for a variety of reasons.