CDPR says nothing - Out with the pitchforks
CDPR says something. - Out with the pitchforks
It's a lose lose situation of there own making i guess
I watched and listened carefully to the message the CDPR CEO broadcasted through the video today and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed and feel like its a hopeless situation, like this is the final end of the road for Cyberpunk.
Us gamers have learned the hard lesson that we shouldn't read between the lines and interject our own personal hopes and dreams into a game when the developer doesn't explicitly made such a promise in writing, even when its hinted and reasonably inferred or all but assumed, we have to stop short of letting our imagination run wild and we must go by what is actually stated...
It isn't so much what the CEO said, it is what he did NOT say... He made zero mention of revamping the totally nonexistent AI, including the lacking NPC AI driving, the cop chase /stars system and also the AI of the NPC pedestrians and in general the true immersion of the game/city that was promised but never materialized...
There was zero mention of adding back content that was cut, nothing about adding back the train system, or the walk climbing, or dual welding or any number of dozens of features and functionalities that were promised in the numerous trailers but then suddenly abandoned and cut out at the very last minute in order to ship a broken and incomplete game under false pretenses just to pump up sales revenue for the holiday season....
So in essence, there will be a few bug fixes, but that's pretty much it.... you can tell by the tone of the CEO that in his mind the PC version is already pretty great and basically don't even need fixing, and the main focus will be on making the last gen consoles versions more playable...
What is most disheartening perhaps is towards the end of the video message the CEO is just brushing Cyberpunk aside and already on the verge of pimping to us the next new games/titles that CDPR has in the pipeline and in the works...
I for one will never again pre-order another game from CDPR, and most likely will never buy nor play another CDPR game ever again if their DLC ends up being just some more story telling missions and does nothing to fix the AI, to add back functionality that was in the trailer but cut out at last minute, or to make good on the immersion that was promised that would befit a city of this genre...
But if we are to take the CEO's own words at face value, there is no evidence that any of this will ever happen. The only thing he mentioned was bug fixes, primarily on the last gen consoles, and still refused to admit the PC version is also horribly broken in that its basically missing at least a full 1/3rds of the content/functionality/immersion that was cut out in order to rush the shipping date and also to load-shed the game enough to conform to the last gen consoles least common denominator...
It isn't about the money to me, I would gladly pay hundreds or thousands of bucks for a true NightCity that lived up to its full potential... but what we are hearing from the CEO today, is that they will do some bug fixes, push out a DLC with no mention of adding back cut functionality and content/ immersion, no mention of fixing AI, NPC, etc and basically just wrapping it up and now they already want to rinse and repeat and ready to sell us the NEXT game...
Fool me once....
NO... JUST NO. NEVER AGAIN.
Just imagine that the free DLC are the extensions... why not, we can always dream
Poor assessment in my humble opinion. I'm one of many that have been extremely critical of CDPR and CP2077 but if you can not see the committment they are making by just that initial statement, you missing the point.
Now of course, we will see how this post ages, if you keep it active.
Someone had mentioned CDPR are considering AI a bug, which probably includes all AI in the game (I know how easy it is for one line to completely mess up an entire page of code) and there are random points in the game where something happens that just seems way above what the rest of the game is doing (There was a spot where I cleared out a Valantino gang, I had not left the area yet and after a couple minutes a car flies up and a bunch of Valantinos get out and come after me)
So there's a big chance that some of this stuff you mention is grouped in their "bug fixes" comment.
if the haters gonna be true to their words...Poor assessment in my humble opinion. I'm one of many that have been extremely critical of CDPR and CP2077 but if you can not see the committment they are making by just that initial statement, you missing the point.
Now of course, we will see how this post ages, if you keep it active.
Someone had mentioned CDPR are considering AI a bug, which probably includes all AI in the game (I know how easy it is for one line to completely mess up an entire page of code) and there are random points in the game where something happens that just seems way above what the rest of the game is doing (There was a spot where I cleared out a Valantino gang, I had not left the area yet and after a couple minutes a car flies up and a bunch of Valantinos get out and come after me)
So there's a big chance that some of this stuff you mention is grouped in their "bug fixes" comment.
We need a roadmap for what their vision of the game will be in a years time. They have the entirety of 2021 past February dedicated to content updates, so we all hope that the stuff that we want will be added in that timeframe.
Calling it all over for addressing the most prominent issues seems a little... soon. We're unlikely to see a detailed roadmap until march, if at all.
Beyond that, I think CDPR need to play their cards close to their chest due to the controversy, although at this point a simple statement of "Yes we're adding content that should have been in the base game" would be appreciated, but I can see lawyers diving all over that.
No. The problem is that instead of an apology, they released 5 minutes of new lies. They didn't know about the status of the console versions? Then why did they forbid people from talking about them before the release, and prevent reviewers from showing their own footage of the game?CDPR says nothing - Out with the pitchforks
CDPR says something. - Out with the pitchforks
It's a lose lose situation of there own making i guess
I sort of agree with this assessment. I don't want to hear that they are planning future projects. I'm not even sure CDPR will exist much longer with all the legal shenanigans they are involved with. It was a half-hearted mea culpa in regards to the console version. It's great to hear about bug fixes coming but what about the stuff that was clearly cut and they did a poor job of hiding that fact? There's clearly a 6th skill tree that can't be accessed, is that going to be added back in a future DLC?Poor assessment in my humble opinion. I'm one of many that have been extremely critical of CDPR and CP2077 but if you can not see the committment they are making by just that initial statement, you missing the point.
Now of course, we will see how this post ages, if you keep it active.
I'm referring to what the roadmap for the "multiple updates and improvements" section will look like.
That doesn't address what I'm talking about. He only talked about bugs and legacy console performance. He didn't talk about any other issues with the game. The road map doesn't reference any issues either.Did you read the roadmap? It says 'Multiple updates and Improvements'
The game is no where near what was advertised. What we hoped or thought it would be was what they advertised. The game very factually is missing a lot of contend their marketing showed would be in the game.the game is at its basis what it was advertised to be, its not what many people hoped or thought it would be. There's a lot of fixes to systems they could do, but what people really want, is the game to push the boundaries of what games are capable of, in almost all respects. I would love it if they could do that, but that is a task rarely achieved, and even harder as production values go up. Square Enix literally said its not really possible to make ff7 world with todays production values.
The game pushed some boundaries, didnt push others, but minus bugs and errors, its about as much as you can get out of a 60$ 5-8year development game with no microtransactions. Also, even aside that, there is tons of subjective things, that some people like and others don't like. Can't fix those, thats just a choice of the creator
I'm referring to what the roadmap for the "multiple updates and improvements" section will look like.
I'm referring to what the roadmap for the "multiple updates and improvements" section will look like.
Correct. That section, including patch 1.1 and 1.2 needs to be properly defined to the community, so we can understand what they have identified as bugs and if any of the core mechanic issues are on that list i.e :
1) Weapon balancing (Crit chance, armor ignore values etc)
2) Ai behaviour
etc etc