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Ability to crouch-sprint/stealth-sprint?

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illicitSoul

illicitSoul

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#1
Nov 5, 2019
I wondered if you'll be able to crouch-run since it would practical to be able to sprint while crouching and gaining more time to move to other cover if needed. What do you guys think? V already has amazing reflexes and can double jump, slide etc. so it would add up some fun to the movement freedom in general.
 
Tree_Fox

Tree_Fox

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#2
Nov 5, 2019
Games generally have 3 different stances:
Standing
Crouching
Sprinting

It would be too much of a hassle to try and combine them.
 
v.dog

v.dog

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#3
Nov 5, 2019
I don't see how it would work from an animation standpoint, nor why it would be needed from a gameplay one. There's meant to be a trade off between crouching and running - one is slow and quiet, and the other fast but loud, which means that the player has to make meaningful choices about how they proceed. Crouched sprinting would be either an 'I win' button, or basically the same as simply walking. Which is a terrible idea in one case and useless in the other.

If you want to be quick and quiet, you can invest in those skills as you progress, which is still means you have to make a choice- points spent there can't be spent elsewhere. It's meaningiful and keeps it balanced.
 
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Nithing

Nithing

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#4
Nov 5, 2019
v.dog said:
I don't see how it would work from an animation standpoint, nor why it would be needed from a gameplay one. There's meant to be a trade off between crouching and running - one is slow and quiet, and the other fast but loud, which means that the player has to make meaningful choices about how they proceed. Crouched sprinting would be either an 'I win' button, or basically the same as simply walking. Which is a terrible idea in one case and useless in the other.

If you want to be quick and quiet, you can invest in those skills as you progress, which is still means you have to make a choice- points spent there can't be spent elsewhere. It's meaningiful and keeps it balanced.
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A crouched sprint would mostly be for changing cover or closing distance in a fight than whilst sneaking, the even then it could be useful.
A good implementation of this could be to give it a very small stamina bar, only allowing small dashes. This would enable the player to cross a couple of meters between barriers or across a corridor but no further.
 
Tree_Fox

Tree_Fox

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#5
Nov 6, 2019
Changing cover isnt really an issue. Just go from crouch to sprint to crouch. No need for another stance.

Once your in a fight, crouching for stealth is pointless. Switching to sprint to get close to a person is better.

This crouch-sprint idea you have is so niche, that it wont be a useful addition to the game.

I think you want a cover system, like that in Deus Ex.
 
imitenotbecrazy

imitenotbecrazy

User
#6
Nov 6, 2019
Tree_Fox said:
Changing cover isnt really an issue. Just go from crouch to sprint to crouch. No need for another stance.

Once your in a fight, crouching for stealth is pointless. Switching to sprint to get close to a person is better.

This crouch-sprint idea you have is so niche, that it wont be a useful addition to the game.

I think you want a cover system, like that in Deus Ex.
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Not really that niche. It's been in other games and it's quite useful. It would fit the game just fine
 
Benzenzimmern

Benzenzimmern

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#7
Nov 6, 2019
When you sprint, you can also slide into a crouch and look pretty damn cool while doing it. :)
 
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Kazuliski

Kazuliski

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#8
Nov 6, 2019
Sprint, Slide, Amputate Enemy Leg below the Knee with Mantis Blades... Repeat...
 
Tree_Fox

Tree_Fox

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#9
Nov 7, 2019
imitenotbecrazy said:
Not really that niche. It's been in other games and it's quite useful. It would fit the game just fine
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Only games that come to mind for me are third person cover shooters, or games that have a cover system. Cyberpunk 2077, as far as I know, doesn't have a cover system and doesn't kick you to third person during any gameplay.

Could you point out a first person shooter, with no cover system, that lets you sprint-crouch?
 
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nsf001

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#10
Nov 7, 2019
Tree_Fox said:
Only games that come to mind for me are third person cover shooters, or games that have a cover system. Cyberpunk 2077, as far as I know, doesn't have a cover system and doesn't kick you to third person during any gameplay.

Could you point out a first person shooter, with no cover system, that lets you sprint-crouch?
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Most Realistic shooters,and even Battlefield V,it's pretty useful in certain scenarios, like if you want to move form a table cover to another table cover and don't want to expose too much.
 
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Has_Neyn

Has_Neyn

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#11
Nov 7, 2019
I could see this working in a point and click scenario where you can advance/transition to a different area of cover, similar to the Division. You hold a button and V will crouch-run to an area whilst avoiding fire.
 
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