About Blood and Wine (SPOILERS)

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once you completed the mian story, you can start ng+, you will keep your level if it is higher than 30 or you will be level 30 if you did not reach level 30



you that you can start ng+ at any time and it doesnt matter what you did or did not do..
no, you need a save game file that you completed the main story with, not at any time
 
Will BaW be playable after completing main game?

It still needs to be confirmed by developers exactly when and at what recommended level the expansion will be playable, however, it was already said that it will be integrated into the main game, but it will be an independent story. So, my guess is that it will probably be similar to Hearts of Stone - you can play it at any time during or after the main quest, but preferably at a high level.
 
Not sure if this was posted, but B&W will be Geralt's last adventure.

CD Projekt RED told Eurogamer that Blood and Wine is a completely separate story from the original plot found in Wild Hunt. According to the interview, the developers believe they “have achieved something even better than the main game.”

One of things CDPR wanted to do for the expansion was to create a more “charismatic enemy” for Geralt to face, as well as develop a more complex story they believe “players will appreciate.” This is Geralt’s final story according to the interview, so it sounds like CD Projekt RED wants to make it a memorable and lasting experience for players.

They also aren't being frugal, as they've budgeted 2.3 million Euro's for it's development. That's quite a bit. :eek: Hopefully it's a good investment. :)
 
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It still needs to be confirmed by developers exactly when and at what recommended level the expansion will be playable, however, it was already said that it will be integrated into the main game, but it will be an independent story. So, my guess is that it will probably be similar to Hearts of Stone - you can play it at any time during or after the main quest, but preferably at a high level.

Thats what i hope for!
 

It has been said already a few times that Geralt's story ends with TW3, so that is not surprising. Although it is also an indirect confirmation that there will be no third expansion - unless it has a different protagonist like Ciri, but that is not likely.

They also aren't being frugal, as they've budgeted 2.3 million Euro's for it's development. That's quite a bit. :eek: Hopefully it's a good investment. :)

The base game did cost $32 million to develop (if not more), so it is still less than a tenth of that. Of course, the engine and a lot of the assets are reused in the expansions, which reduces the costs. The Czech translator also posted on Twitter about translating another 14000 words over the holidays, but that does not tell much, it is only a fraction of the expansion's content - for comparison, I counted about 42000 lines and 400000 (English) words in the base game, and that is only the voiced dialogue.
 
Gaunter O'Dimm will eat him for breakfast, and puke the undigested bits all over Auberon's grave.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

But Eredin looks more evil I think ;)



In comparison with the lovely and sympathic Gaunter... :wub:
 

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Well, the Wild Hunt are present in the books, and they're pretty bland there, too, probably the worst part of the novels, so they didn't really have too much wiggle room there, I don't think.

Definitely getting more excited for Blood & Wine, though. They've said all the right things, so far.
 
Well, the Wild Hunt are present in the books, and they're pretty bland there, too, probably the worst part of the novels, so they didn't really have too much wiggle room there, I don't think.

Definitely getting more excited for Blood & Wine, though. They've said all the right things, so far.

Not really. They were secondary at best in the books and were... less hyped than in the games. They did not necessarily add many (complex that is) themes to the work, but they did enhance existing ones. And book Eredin > Game Eredin (which is a very low bar, I admit... and true enough everything in the books is better).

They are fairly coherent and a very ironic entity actually, especially when contrasted with other main thematic elements in the saga till that point. An interesting juxtaposition of the elements of the "legend" of the Wild Hunt in-universe as well as their reality (basically... special forces) also serves to make them more interesting.

Actually CDPR has a good amount of wiggle room. They just wiggled in the wrong direction and not enough in the one where they COULD have wiggled. One of the very few places where they might have caught up to the books.

We shall see on Blood and Whine.
 
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Not really. They were secondary at best in the books and were... less hyped than in the games. They did not necessarily add many (complex that is) themes to the work, but they did enhance existing ones. And book Eredin > Game Eredin (which is a very low bar, I admit).

They are fairly coherent and a very ironic entity actually, especially when contrasted with other main thematic elements in the saga till that point. An interesting juxtaposition of the elements of the "legend" of the Wild Hunt in-universe as well as their reality (basically... special forces) also serves to make them more interesting.

Actually CDPR has a good amount of wiggle room. They just wiggled in the wrong direction and not enough in the one where they COULD have wiggled. One of the very few places where they might have caught up to the books.

We shall see on Blood and Whine.

I think I understand the way they went with the WH, though. The WH in the books, like you said, don't really add much (to me the WH should have stayed a legend in the books, as the reality left a lot to be desired). Especially when you take into account the dark fantasy setting. So, they could have tried to explore them and their motivations a lot more, but that would have really bogged down the rest of the game, just to achieve a mediocre villain instead of a... more mediocre one.

And the Wild Hunt is still based on the books, meaning they're still developed there, for people that want to learn more about them - that's the good thing about using characters from the books, they're already fleshed out for you.

But yeah, Blood & Wine - the topic - my speculations are that we'll see some more of the opposition to Emhyr in Nilfgaard (Toussaint is exactly where they're mentioned in the books, too), so a bit of a political angle there, which would be nice. And I'd guess vampires are also going to be involved, because of the title, but we'll see.
 
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I think I understand the way they went with the WH, though. The WH in the books, like you said, don't really add much (to me the WH should have stayed a legend in the books, as the reality left a lot to be desired). Especially when you take into account the dark fantasy setting. So, they could have tried to explore them and their motivations a lot more, but that would have really bogged down the rest of the game, just to achieve a mediocre villain instead of a... more mediocre one.

And the Wild Hunt is still based on the books, meaning they're still developed there, for people that want to learn more about them - that's the good thing about using characters from the books, they're already fleshed out for you.

But yeah, Blood & Wine - the topic - my speculations are that we'll see some more of the opposition to Emhyr in Nilfgaard (Toussaint is exactly where they're mentioned in the books, too), so a bit of a political angle there, which would be nice. And I'd guess vampires are also going to be involved, because of the title, but we'll see.

Depends on what your definition of adding to the books is. They sure as hell are an interesting ironic twist.... and technically they do add to the thematic coherence of the work (generally higher end stuff than even the plot). So I am conflicted on whether Sapkowski should have left them a legend or not, as what he has done makes a lot of sense even if personally I dont like it (or how it was handled that is).

I dont believe a setting, especially when we the fans artificially put the limits on it with imperfect genre denominations... should be considered here. This is generally a bad and limiting, railroading idea. Can not agree there at all, Dark Fantasy as a denomination of "genre" should never ever be used to limit a work.

Book Eredin may not be the best developed character in the book series, but truth be told, if he were transfered well into the game, he would still easily have improved the game. Not to mention that video game villain standards are extremely low anyway, he might have seemed even great then. Now he is mediocre though.

Yeah but we both know that unfortunately your average gamer wont go out and buy and then read books. :(
*Cries in corner remembering how sad that is*

To the "original" topic - what you are saying sounds interesting. I honestly have no idea though... I dont know how it will work out at all. I am more worried about those "select separate game from menu" rumors I have been hearing. Is it true?
I hope it is political though. *Though it wont solve BS in main storyline*. And has actual higher vampires. Opposition in Toussaint is unlikely IMHO but we shall see.
 
Yes, but what I want is a charismatic Wild Hunt. Not another villain

This is Blood and Wine we are talking about, not another Run Ciri Run remake. The main game is more or less perfect. No need to gripe over Wild Hunt's short and lackluster appearance as CDPR have acknowledged it themselves.



But Eredin looks more evil I think



In comparison with the lovely and sympathic Gaunter...

O'Dimm's mysterious attributes make him stand-out.
 
Wild Hunt were a disappointment due to 2 facts:

1. They are common elves with magic - they are not phantom riders, there's absolutely no mystic in them. They would have been a lot more terrifying if they were like ring ghosts/fallen kings on LOTR.
2. There is zero interraction with them on Witcher 3
 
Alright guys, try to tie this into Blood & Wine somehow, please. If you'd like to discuss the merits of the base game, do it here: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40106-TW3-General-Feedback-SPOILERS

To the "original" topic - what you are saying sounds interesting. I honestly have no idea though... I dont know how it will work out at all. I am more worried about those "select separate game from menu" rumors I have been hearing. Is it true?
I hope it is political though. *Though it wont solve BS in main storyline*. And has actual higher vampires. Opposition in Toussaint is unlikely IMHO but we shall see.

Not sure what you mean by "select separate game from menu". If you mean playing the expansion on its own, like you could with HoS, then yeah, that seemed like an option that was appreciated for HoS, so I imagine the devs would do it again.

And from what I understand, like HoS, B&W is going to be a self-contained story, so I don't think it's supposed to add to the main story directly.

On higher vampires - yeah, Blood & Wine seems to fit as a title for them to be present. The Launch CGI, which has Beauclair in the background, had Geralt fight a vampire as well, so I'm feeling pretty confident about this guess.

As for the opposition, there have been no hints about that, I'm just guessing based on their presence there in the books, and it's something that was touched upon in the main story of the base game.
 
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Alright guys, try to tie this into Blood & Wine somehow, please. If you'd like to discuss the merits of the base game, do it here: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40106-TW3-General-Feedback-SPOILERS



Not sure what you mean by "select separate game from menu". If you mean playing the expansion on its own, like you could with HoS, then yeah, that seemed like an option that was appreciated for HoS, so I imagine the devs would do it again.

And from what I understand, like HoS, B&W is going to be a self-contained story, so I don't think it's supposed to add to the main story directly.

On higher vampires - yeah, Blood & Wine seems to fit as a title for them to be present. The Launch CGI, which has Beauclair in the background, had Geralt fight a vampire as well, so I'm feeling pretty confident about this guess.

As for the opposition, there have been no hints about that, I'm just guessing based on their presence there in the books, and it's something that was touched upon in the main story of the base game.
That thread is more of a placebo really :). I rather use PMs.

Not what I meant. I heard that the only way to play would be via the menu and that I wont be able to access the main maps that way. Meaning I wont be able to use my save? That is what I heard... I am asking you now whether there is some base to that... :( !

I know about the launch trailer. I remember thinking that that can not be Novigrad when it came out (and that it cant be anything on Skellige).

Hmm... including the opposition makes sense. I am just skeptical, but I hope you are correct here.
 
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