Actually I think it's ment to read "how to defeat the beast"Iraqi-Gangster said:I don't know ??? Maybe he wants a pet :-\ I guess he meant to write "How to defend myself from da beast"! Mods change the titleIraqi-Gangster said:For everyone replying they saved Abigail, she survives no matter what, so a real good job you all did.See the green ring around her in the fight? That means she can't die. The Green Ring of Protection. She may fall down during the battle, but she gets back up at the end.Also, why do you want to defend the Beast?
That unfortunately is exactly what gets me killed. The Beast just resurrects the fallen dogs and then becomes impenetrable. Is there a way to get through its flame protection? What's the right spell to use?klisiu said:When I was killing the Beast Abigail survived... Firstly you should kill all dogs before killin the Beast..klisiu said:Hello, so far i realy like the witcher. Its a realy nice game. But now im at the end of Act1 where the beast attacks me and Abigail.Abigail always dies and i too shortly after her. I drank all the potions i have but this beast is damn hard. Im wondering how you guys did it ? Is it possible that Abigail survives ? A little help would be great.
I agree with the others saying this is a terrible design by the game makers. Im having a hard time so i guess ill upgrade my aard whenever i level again (sigh), make more potions (sigh) load previous saves (sigh) and go through that extra long cut scene another 30 times (SIGHHHH!) plus keep switching stances and all that and THEN get ready for more attacks if i happen to kill the stupid mutt. Theres no reason, this early on in the game, to throw every alchemy recipe and fight tactic into the players lap in the same fight.And on top of all that, you have to protect someone whos getting ganged up on the whole time. And if the mutt drops, its only half over? lmao! Wouldnt be bad for a end game fight, but chapter 1? cmon now...Fun game, til now.
I never had problems with the Beast. I just used Group Style (level 2 with both Knockdown talents) with Spectre Oil, a Blizzard, and a Rubedo potion (not even a Swallow). Killed the Barghests faster than the Beast spawned them and caused the Beast himself to spend a lot of time howling to summon them or getting up off the ground instead of attacking.So no, you don't need the "right" talents, you just need to put talents in places where you can get the most of your abilities, whatever your focus might be (Warrior-focused Witchers should use the tactic listed above, while Sign-focused Witchers should stun the Beast with Aard and use Igni for crowd control when there's too many Barghests around).
I had problems with the beast too but it was not that I couldn't beat it, it was because I was afraid that losing Abigail, whom I had chosen to keep around, would affect the game (she dies so easily you wouldn't believe it). However, a friend of mine informed me that it doesn't matter if she "dies" as she is revived again after the fight. So if that's your issue, no problems there.The strategies suggested by the other posters work well. I saved in the cave just before talking to the mob and coated the sword in spector oil and drank a swallow right before talking to them (both work long enough to last to the fight).Then I just focused on the beast using fast attack style. Had to stop attacking it for a short while and kill the other beast, except one, since the Hell Hound spawns new ones if they all die, and then I went back to beating it silly with fast style again. It's fairly easy to be level 8 or 9 when you get to that point, so you should be able to take it on with no issues, really.
I stunned him with the Aard sign, after about 5 tries, the first time through with Abigail, made it well easy.Second time through (without Abigail) I was better at group style and handed him his butt pretty easily.
I killed the beast on my second try. Leveling up, I didn't realize until later you could add points to anything but the personal attributes (strength, dexterity, and intelligence). By the time, I got to the beast, I had maxed the personal attributes, and added a little bit of ability to strong style on the steel sword and a notch to the AARD. I got killed the first time against the beast with no powerups. I used blizzard the second time. I used the strong attack on the beast initially. Then as the little guys closed in, I switched to group until they were out of the way, and then strong attack again. That's it. No AARD. No blade oil used (I had it, but didn't want to waste it).
Seems like the most common advice against the Beast is using Aard. The Beast is also beatable without signs, though you do need a Swallow and Blizzard potion. If you use ghoul blood and Celandine, you can get a nigredo Blizzard, which ups your damage by 20%. Meteorite sword, specter oil, that potion and a swallow and then using fast style on the critter after eliminating all but one barghest works well. Didn't have a single talent spent on Aard or Igni. Even Abigail survived until the peasants showed up.The point about fast style is that you need both the damage and pain boosts maxed out, together with the pain bonus from the blue meteorite (I'd done the lab against Savolla instead of the Frightener in the prologue) lets the Beast get a taste of its own medicine. You also need to keep out of its way, meaning you go in for one series of strikes, perhaps two. Then you need to back the hell off by dodging a couple of times and then go back for more so you can avoid being in pain. Having stamina upped to lv 2 helps to have some resistance to pain (10%). If the Beast gets crippled by pain, you can really unleash a can of whoop-arse on it, at which point it's easy to finish it off. Surprisingly easy, in fact. And that was playing on Hard, I never even considered the easier alternatives.There is also something to be said for keeping one's options open. I screwed up the first time I played Chapter 1, so I just restarted (would have done anyway, as I made the screwup at the end of the prologue). I actually saved my talents from the level-ups except for getting the lv 2 styles and most strength, dexterity and intel upgrades and group style. So I had 10 talents to spend before going to face the Beast. Save before talking to Abigail, talk to her, rest and upgrade, then go to the end. That way you don't need to replay the whole chapter if you screw up (assuming you did not screw up the quests). You really don't need those ten talents before you go against the Beast, the chapter is easy enough to get through as long as you're prepared for what you face (which sometimes means needing to run like a rabbit for a while if you go against several ghouls or half a dozen barghests at once).
I have no idea why the Beast causes such a controversy. It's the easiest boss in the game, presuming there is some other bosses that can't be killed just as easily (I'm only halfway thru Act II so far...so I wouldn' t know). The Beast was unbelievabley easy to kill. Just do exactly what the original post of this thread says. End of story.I did that on my own without even reading this thread before the fight. I just hit him with Aard and he was literally dead within 5 seconds after the fight started. I was shocked at how ridiculously easy the Beast was.If there is any bad design about the Beast, then that bad design is that the Beast is way too easy to kill. If any dev reads this post, please patch the game so Beast cannot be killed so easily (and patch all other bosses that can also be killed in this way too).
I don't think this The Beasts difficulty is a design flaw by any means. In fact it forced me to reconsider my attack tactics and made me realise that I am not going to finish this game by simply hack 'n slashing my way through it.I reloaded an earlier save and learned more about alchemy, made a few potions and defeated it on my first retry using Swallow and Blizzard.Remember that The Witcher is an RPG and relies on character development to progress. Also it is based on an already existing character that relied on his trusty potions to succeed in battle
For me the key to winning this fight (on medium) was to keep Abigail alive. As long as she was up, she would heal me. If the smaller dogs got her, I was toast fast. So when I focused on defending her and killing all the spawns, I finally won. I was using group style to aggro all the dogs.(funny how that resembles me playing a rogue with a healer in WoW..)And I did not know the Spectre oil recipe (still don't) and probably had no stun on Aard (don't remember anymore)
Maxed out primary stats, maxed out group style and fast style (minus the sewer sinews bullcrap), spectre oil and a few potions are all you need. If you can, make your blizzard potion with celandine and ghoul blood, that will get you blizzard with dominant nigredo (+20% damage), that together with the damage bonus from the meteorite sword (whether 3R or 2R1B) is goin to be big. Quaff potions, use group style to take out most barghests (leave one so more don't spawn) and then either fast or strong style as you prefer, but remember to dodge away from the beast after every sequence or he will be able to hit you with pain. YOU DO NOT NECESSARILY NEED SIGNS AT ALL. Just make sure you have 6 to 10 talents unused before you talk to Abigail in the cave and save before you do talk to her. Then you can meditate and use those talents as you see fit to try different ability combos.Seriously, there must be a two dozen threads on how to beat the Beast, including the sticky. It is not that difficult, even on hard. But with regard to this one particular issue, seems like these forums would be more aptly named The Bitcher Forums rather than The Witcher Forums.
And don't forget about the dead goose! Always carry a dead goose with you.(http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip069.html)
*snort*Not really relevant to the thread, that comic. The first chapter has plenty enough development potential to turn Geralt out several different ways, such as focusing on signs or some other aspects and the things that work with one set of picks may not work at all given a different set of choices. I found that out the hard way and had to replay the whole first chapter. There's a definite reason why I advocate saving up on the talents until the end of the chapter, that way you can try lots of different things without needing to replay big sections of the chapter. I play the game on hard difficulty and the first 20 times I got my arse handed to me when I faced the Beast. The second time (after replaying the whole chapter) I had 10 unused talents and once I was done with those, I chewed the Beast up and spit it out no trouble. If that had not worked, reload a save five minutes before chapter end, pick different abilities and see where that gets me.I have seen at least three different ways of killing the Beast described here that worked for various people. Using Aard as the main tool, using potions and group and fast style like I did, some combination of those, using strong style and other things, turtling in a corner etc. All of that has been laid out for anyone to use, multiple times in in multiple threads. And no end in sight for the "WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! I can't defeat the Beast! Waaaahhh!" threads. That's why the acidic comment before. Too many people seem to not pay attention, either here on the forum or in the game when they miss big clues.