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desertsong

Senior user
#801
Mar 20, 2010
I still haven't gotten past this and I am about to give up. I've read all kinds of stuff, but nothing helps. The game works perfectly and is beautiful up to this point. I've been amazed at how much the game draws you in. It's quite captivating actually. But when I get to this part it goes in slow motion and I can't seem to manage a clean hit on the stupid thing. I don't want to give up because this is such a cool world, but this is ridiculous. My system requirements exceed everything I've seen listed so I have no idea what the problem is here.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#802
Mar 20, 2010
Strong style, Swallow, Grindstone or whetstone on your weapon, once your hp runs low try to avoid some of the strikes and use Aard once you have wounded it a little.I usually hit it some times and try to knock it down with aard after. If that doesn't work, hit it a little bit more and try again with the aard. It's tricky but should work. The oil you get from Abigail and a meteorite sword also helps. (You can buy a blue one from Haren, get one red from the crypt after mikuls quest and one red if you kill Leo's ghost)Notice you can also eat something at the same time as Swallow is in effect, to gain a little extra hp regenation.If that won't do, go to the Cave under the city wall and kill some echinops to try to lvl, or do some remaining quests. (You might have to load from a previous saved game, but if it still are too hard, that might be the only choice.)Ps. if you're ready to give up I suggest you send your save file to someone (me for example) to let them try to help you out.
56236 said:
My two cents: remember that you don't have a lot of time to do all that once the Beast comes. You can't just prepare before facing the mob so I'd suggest 1 potion onlyso that you don't lose more HP than you bargained for with Swallow and food and other stuff. Your choice can be tawny (if available, don't remember) or just a swallow.For a sure kill just Aard the Beast straight and hope for an One Shot Kill. This works most of the time. Report back if you have further trouble. :peace:
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Yes true, I forgot to mention that. Everything can be done to boost your char before leaving the cave.
 
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56236

Forum veteran
#803
Mar 20, 2010
Juuuhan said:
Strong style, Swallow, Grindstone or whetstone on your weapon, once your hp runs low try to avoid some of the strikes and use Aard once you have wounded it a little....Notice you can also eat something at the same time as Swallow is in effect, to gain a little extra hp regenation.
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My two cents: remember that you don't have a lot of time to do all that once the Beast comes. You can't just prepare before facing the mob so I'd suggest 1 potion onlyso that you don't lose more HP than you bargained for with Swallow and food and other stuff. Your choice can be tawny (if available, don't remember) or just a swallow.For a sure kill just Aard the Beast straight and hope for an One Shot Kill. This works most of the time. Report back if you have further trouble. :peace:
 
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Corylea.723

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#804
Mar 22, 2010
desertsong said:
I still haven't gotten past this and I am about to give up. I've read all kinds of stuff, but nothing helps. The game works perfectly and is beautiful up to this point. I've been amazed at how much the game draws you in. It's quite captivating actually.
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It would be a terrible shame if you had to stop playing at this point, so I'll tell you a secret: There are outbuildings next to the houses. Some of those outbuildings are useless, but there's one outbuilding where it's close enough to the house that Geralt can get into the space between the outbuilding and the house, but the Beast can't. Go into that space, and you can put oil on your sword, take all the potions you want, write your memoirs, read War and Peace, anything you like. :D You can run out of that space, fight The Beast until you're low on hitpoints, then run back into that space to heal up, repeat as many times as necessary.There's a picture of the hiding place here.Also, don't waste your time on barghests during the Beast fight. If you kill the barghests, the Beast just summons more of them. But if you kill the Beast, the barghests drop dead all by themselves.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#805
Mar 23, 2010
You give up because of the beast?So what you gonna do when you'll face the golem or the kikimore's queen? I really don't get some player's point.....
 
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Corylea.723

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#806
Mar 23, 2010
secondchildren said:
You give up because of the beast?So what you gonna do when you'll face the golem or the kikimore's queen? I really don't get some player's point.....
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Now, now. Every player's different, and that's okay. And we never know what challenges a person is facing. I know a Witcher player who has limited use of his hands, so combat is harder for him than it is for most people. And I know people who have such difficult life situations that they're using up all of their ability to tolerate frustration, just dealing with daily life, which means that they can't also tolerate the frustration of a difficult boss fight. The point of a game is to have fun, not to prove something. If a player needs a work-around to get past the Beast so that they can enjoy the rest of the game, I say let them have it.
 
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username_2078226

Senior user
#807
Mar 23, 2010
Corylea said:
Now, now. Every player's different, and that's okay. And we never know what challenges a person is facing. I know a Witcher player who has limited use of his hands, so combat is harder for him than it is for most people. And I know people who have such difficult life situations that they're using up all of their ability to tolerate frustration, just dealing with daily life, which means that they can't also tolerate the frustration of a difficult boss fight. The point of a game is to have fun, not to prove something. If a player needs a work-around to get past the Beast so that they can enjoy the rest of the game, I say let them have it.
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Bravo.We all have had some experience or another with a difficult and annoying boss while gaming, and some people take it better than others.I remember MY first beast experience (before I had a gameplan) and almost got mad enough to smash my fist into my notebook.Instead I left the game for the night and came back to it the next day when my temper wore off.I then aced it.Keep trying and keep the faith with the game, its worth a little frustration or two. Many consider this boss to be the hardest to combat (the Queen doesn't count, because combat is optional) because of the levelling issue early on. As the Acts progress, the game eventually becomes a LOT easier.Forge on, mighty Witcher gamers!
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#808
Mar 23, 2010
Chuckles said:
Chuckles said:
Now, now. Every player's different, and that's okay. And we never know what challenges a person is facing. I know a Witcher player who has limited use of his hands, so combat is harder for him than it is for most people. And I know people who have such difficult life situations that they're using up all of their ability to tolerate frustration, just dealing with daily life, which means that they can't also tolerate the frustration of a difficult boss fight. The point of a game is to have fun, not to prove something. If a player needs a work-around to get past the Beast so that they can enjoy the rest of the game, I say let them have it.
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Bravo.We all have had some experience or another with a difficult and annoying boss while gaming, and some people take it better than others.I remember MY first beast experience (before I had a gameplan) and almost got mad enough to smash my fist into my notebook.Instead I left the game for the night and came back to it the next day when my temper wore off.I then aced it.Keep trying and keep the faith with the game, its worth a little frustration or two. Many consider this boss to be the hardest to combat (the Queen doesn't count, because combat is optional) because of the levelling issue early on. As the Acts progress, the game eventually becomes a LOT easier.Forge on, mighty Witcher gamers!
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I'm not saying this.But, as it happened in another thread where a very pissed off user blame the game because he couldn't defeat the kikimore Queen, I simply think that giving up because of a boss fight is not a good reason. On my first playing the Beast kicked my ass too, more and more times. I had to try more than once before beating that scoundrel. It always happens on your first approachment to a new videogame.Look, one of my fav RPG is Planescape Torment, where fighting is not primary at all. I found Torment awesome, interesting, funny, nice etc....But leaving just becasue you don't succeed in beating a monster (even if I recognize that can be frustrating) is......weird. I mean, you should never play any videogames but the Sims, Rabbids or..... something like that. Coz any cool videogame that I know (from BG to Batman AA) has its own fight and its own boss monster.I'm playing DA Origins right now, and I've been defeated once or twice. But I would never ever leave the game just because I cannot win a fight. Simply I reload and try again.I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that's how it should work.
 
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danconnors

Senior user
#809
Apr 1, 2010
As I've said before, if you absolutely, positively can't kill the Beast by yourself, just give the witch to the mob. When the fight starts the mob will be on YOUR side, and the whole affair will be a cakewalk. All you have to do afterwards is come to terms with your dishonorable conduct. Better that than quitting the game. I tried it once (just for drill since I've beaten the beast alone in the FCR mod set to highest difficulty) and it was pathetically easy. This is NOT cheating. The game gives you the option of surrendering the witch. If you can't win with the mob on your side, well, then you should quit.
 
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onkl.627

Senior user
#810
Apr 4, 2010
Don't know if it was changed, but at the time I was playing Witcher, you could stun the beast and then 1-shot it (as mentioned in this thread). So if you get stuck, ignore everything and spam stun.
 
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vilgefortze

Senior user
#811
Apr 8, 2010
On higher difficulty, it's almost impossible to stun the beast. Don't waste Endurance trying to stun it. It has some special attack that renders you helpless for a while. Don't remember which, but I think it was Blind..Keep the endurance for when you are blinded and surrounded. Clear a path and move away from the Beast while you regain sight.
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#812
Apr 9, 2010
Vilgefortze said:
On higher difficulty, it's almost impossible to stun the beast.
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I think it may depend on how many points you've put into Aard. The last time I faced the Beast, it was on hard, and he stunned on the very first try. One Aard, one finishing move, poof -- all gone. But I didn't have just the one point in Aard that you get from learning it in the Prologue; I'd put some talents into it.
 
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e-ahmet.823

Senior user
#813
Apr 10, 2010
Corylea said:
Corylea said:
On higher difficulty, it's almost impossible to stun the beast.
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I think it may depend on how many points you've put into Aard. The last time I faced the Beast, it was on hard, and he stunned on the very first try. One Aard, one finishing move, poof -- all gone. But I didn't have just the one point in Aard that you get from learning it in the Prologue; I'd put some talents into it.
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Ditto. In my 4. try.
 
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thurauh1

Senior user
#814
Apr 12, 2010
I, too, was about to give up on the defeating the Beast. If you have saved Abigail, she'll help you a bit. My plan was to make Blizzard, Swallow and maybe Cat's Eye potion?, too. It helped that I had something to eat and drink, too, as well. The trick in defeating the Beast, at least for me, was to use the Aard sign to stun it, then jump around, and stray from side to side. And occasionally hitting the bargehests. When the Beast's defende, hitpoints, then was down to say 1/4 of the original, I used combo attacks from the strong style. Using the strong style from attack # 1 is also the key to defeating the Beast. Remember to backtrack a bit when you'll need to drink a potion or eat something,
 
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vilgefortze

Senior user
#815
Apr 14, 2010
Errata: I checked. You can stun the Beast even on highest difficulty. I got it on the 3rd attempt. Sorry for the misinformation.
thurauh1 said:
I, too, was about to give up on the defeating the Beast. If you have saved Abigail, she'll help you a bit. My plan was to make Blizzard, Swallow and maybe Cat's Eye potion?, too. It helped that I had something to eat and drink, too, as well.
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Since when did Cat help in a fight? Or for that matter, a drink? Or for that matter, food, especially when you have swallow? If your strategy is to use signs, then go for tawny owl.
 
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56236

Forum veteran
#816
Apr 14, 2010
Vilgefortze said:
Since when did Cat help in a fight? Or for that matter, a drink? Or for that matter, food, especially when you have swallow? If your strategy is to use signs, then go for tawny owl.
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Cat don't help, true. But, food stacks with Swallow just like Drink with Tawny Owl. If you have the time to take 'em, it could be the 1 Hit or HP difference you need to survive.
 
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vilgefortze

Senior user
#817
Apr 14, 2010
Theoretically, yes. But no fight in the game is that difficult, to be honest. Unless you forsake all side-quests and encounter something like the koschey at level 15 or something....Is that even possible?
 
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56236

Forum veteran
#818
Apr 14, 2010
Vilgefortze said:
Theoretically, yes. But no fight in the game is that difficult, to be honest. Unless you forsake all side-quests and encounter something like the koschey at level 15 or something....Is that even possible?
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No, not possible in the traditional game. But with a mod it is. Check out FCR or Flash mod to find that difficulty, even Barghests become some tough cookies on Insane mode. That's IF you want help to make the Beast or other opponents tougher... I actually don't care for difficulty any more as I've conquered 'em all, but you can still try if you're up to it. As for the other possibility, you'll need a new scenario adv file for that, I dunno. Hope this helps.
 
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vilgefortze

Senior user
#819
Apr 14, 2010
It does.Thank you.But I don't actually intend to try stuff like that. A game's good only as long as it's enjoyable. I don't want to be killed by barghests, thank you. That'll just frustrate me. Insane is good enough.
 
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Eoghain

Senior user
#820
May 23, 2010
After 15 reloads, trying all my applicable potions (but not using the Spector Oil -- wasn't sure if The Beast qualified as a "spector" or not, as "Leo" obviously did, although I didn't use the oil for that encounter, tough as he was - I have a thing about conserving potions and such) I gave up on the game. I found the Beast to be non-defeatable . . . especially since I also have to protect Abigail while fighting it.Don't remember well enough, but the Beast inflicts Pain or some sort of effect upon you which slows you down and dramatically decreases your health.Do not remember if I was able to damage the Beast at all (since no health circle appeared under its feet), I only remember racking up huge amounts of damage whenever the Beast struck me, while I not only hemorrhaged but also remained incapable of moving.The absolute longest both I and Abigail lasted was during one of the earlier attempts where I spent a lot of time defending Abigail from the Barghests, by either blowing back her assailants with the Aard and then using Group Attack while I was waiting for my Vitality to increase. (Even with the potion: it still takes too long for Vitality to be restored.) ...Also, I had the Meteorite sword . . . so . . . the only strategy I did not use was the Spector Oil.By the way: Thurauh mentioned using Strong Style . . . why not Fast Style? I mean, it is, in fact, an agile creature... .Anyhow . . . I thought perhaps killing all the summoned Barghests would eventually exhaust the Beast to the point where I could actually kill it, but I did not live long enough to find out.Anybody have any idea if I can find a silver sword before this encounter? Haven't found it, so I'm guessing the answer's no_On moderate difficulty: The Aard did not work on the Beast (and my Aard skills were nearly maxed out (all but one skill, don't remember which but it was at the end of the first tree, and also I had it at +150% strength from Place of Power & something else I don't remember) and thus only wasted Vitality I could've used to help defend Abigail from the Barghests. (It always works on the Barghests. Too effectively, in my opinion.)...Another example of poor balancing. Way too common in too many games.Annoyed me no end.Oh, well. I'll try again. Unfortunately I lost all my game saves because I had to do a System Restore . . . sigh... .But this will give me a chance to build Geralt's skills more knowledgeably and intelligently.
 
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