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[Act II] Reaching ANY monolith,now,is too difficult

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danielsupernova

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#1
Jul 23, 2009
[Act II] Reaching ANY monolith,now,is too difficult

´m tired of dying in the Swamp Forest,in Act II.To reach the nearest monolith,Oth,I have to pass hordes of drowners,drowners´s dead and even bloodzuiger.Also,I tried to kill the Echinops near the Pits and I constantly die here.It is more affected by fire.But when I try to kill it with a torch and the Igni sign,the best I can do is die at the same time as the beast.I´m in the Level 14 and I have learned Regeneration,Crushing Blow I,Buzz,Igni Student,Poison Resistance,Igni Student,Dexterity Level 2,Gust,Parry,Stun,Harm´s Way II,Disarm,Incineration,Mortal Blow II (Strong Silver),Tempest (Group Silver), and Igni Apprentice and other little things that i don´t remember.What can I do?The Svarog Rune is only useful to strong opponents.I have around 1600 orens and I´m not sure if I have to spend in meteorites or runes.The Echinops in the Outskirts were a lot more easier...In Temple Quarter,I´m about to meet Shani to the autopsy,but I fear the Sentry quest could be too late to complete...
 
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godkingofdivineroad

Senior user
#2
Jul 23, 2009
I faced that problem too. That's why the game has drowner repelling talismans. You can buy one from Kalkstein. While you're wearing it drowners and drowned dead won't attack, something I found very helpful later in the Act when I'd already built up a huge stockpile of ingredients and just needed to get through the swamp and sewers with minimum hindrances. Also use the Quen Sign with the Acid upgrade.
 
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dezired

Senior user
#3
Jul 23, 2009
Run past them.. you don't have to fight anyone in the swamps.
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#4
Jul 23, 2009
I promise you, the time will come when you are bored with killing Drowner, Drowned Daed and Bloedzuigers because they are too easyAs a young Witcher, all at once are difficult. Maybe you can take them one by one. Get back a few steps in an area you have already cleaned to avoid unwanted surprises. Maybe you can manage to kill a Bloedziuger in the crowd of Drowners and Drowned Deads. When the maggot creature explodes, its poissonous acid also kills these enemies when they are close enough. But take care of Geralt as well. The acid is also harmful to him.A tougher species of the Echinops are Archespores which you encounter now in the swamps as well. There is a Archespore trophy monster Coccacidium. You find here several strategies how to kill this nasty vegetable.
 
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Corylea.723

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#5
Jul 23, 2009
At level 14, a bunch of drowners shouldn't be a problem. What strategies are you using to kill them?Drowners are too fast to use strong silver on, so you need to use fast silver if you're fighting a single drowner and group silver if you're fighting three or more. You need to either run through the swamps so quickly that you don't have to kill anything or move through them slowly enough that you're fighting only one group of monsters at a time -- it sounds as if you may be moving at a high enough speed to have to fight several groups of monsters at once, without moving quickly enough to just outrun them.There's a trophy monster that looks like an echinops, and the damned thing follows you around the swamp until you kill it. The trophy monster isn't your average echinops or even your average archespore (a bigger, meaner echinops, just the way drowned dead are bigger, meaner drowners); to kill the Coccacidium, you have to prepare as if it were a boss battle.To kill big C, first kill all the lesser monsters in the immediate area -- you don't want drowners pawing at you while you've got the Coccacidium on your hands. Take your favorite potions -- Swallow at the very least, Tawny Owl if you plan to use Igni, possibly Blizzard once you get next to the thing. Use a grindstone or something on your silver sword.Remember that the Coccacidium is rooted! It can spawn in different areas of the swamp until you kill it, but it can't run after you. Use Strong Silver and Igni or a torch and Igni. You have incineration on Igni, and that's good. Run up to the Coccacidium, blast it with Igni to set it on fire, and hit it a couple of times with Strong Silver or with your torch. When your hitpoints get down to around 20% strength, run away. It will still shoot at you as you're running, so you'll need those hitpoints to survive until you get out of range. Run until it can't hit you anymore, then stand around while Swallow refills your hit points. Eat some food if you have it. When your hit points are full, run back in. Blast it with Igni to set it on fire and repeat the Strong Silver or torch. You can run up and hit it, then run away and heal up as many times as you need to until the monster is dead. It's one tough goddamned plant, but you're fast and it's stationary, and that gives you a huge advantage.The good news is that there's only one Coccacidium. Once you've killed it, other echinops are just echinops.Bloedzuigers burn! Hit one until it's at 3/4 strength, then run away and Igni it from a distance. When it blows up, it'll damage (and probably kill) anything in the vicinity. Make sure YOU'RE not in the vicinity, but just think of bloedzuigers as ambulating bombs and use them to your advantage.You're strong enough and fast enough to take on drowners, drowned dead, and bloedzuigers by this point, but you need to use some strategy and not just hack-hack-hack. Learning how to spot the weaknesses of any particular monster and use those weaknesses to your advantage is an important skill to learn now, because the monsters aren't going to get weaker as you go. ;) There will come a time when you regard drowners as humans regard mosquitoes -- an annoyance to be swatted if it gets close enough. Really!
 
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danielsupernova

Senior user
#6
Aug 2, 2009
I wonder when I will be able to be prepared to kill the Coccacidium.I almost died in the Archespore near the Clay Pits and this archespore seems much worser.I only know that archespore I killed updated the quest for Vincent...the quest is "Bloodthirsty Vegetation"
Corylea said:
At level 14, a bunch of drowners shouldn't be a problem. What strategies are you using to kill them?Drowners are too fast to use strong silver on, so you need to use fast silver if you're fighting a single drowner and group silver if you're fighting three or more. You need to either run through the swamps so quickly that you don't have to kill anything or move through them slowly enough that you're fighting only one group of monsters at a time -- it sounds as if you may be moving at a high enough speed to have to fight several groups of monsters at once, without moving quickly enough to just outrun them.There's a trophy monster that looks like an echinops, and the damned thing follows you around the swamp until you kill it. The trophy monster isn't your average echinops or even your average archespore (a bigger, meaner echinops, just the way drowned dead are bigger, meaner drowners); to kill the Coccacidium, you have to prepare as if it were a boss battle.To kill big C, first kill all the lesser monsters in the immediate area -- you don't want drowners pawing at you while you've got the Coccacidium on your hands. Take your favorite potions -- Swallow at the very least, Tawny Owl if you plan to use Igni, possibly Blizzard once you get next to the thing. Use a grindstone or something on your silver sword.Remember that the Coccacidium is rooted! It can spawn in different areas of the swamp until you kill it, but it can't run after you. Use Strong Silver and Igni or a torch and Igni. You have incineration on Igni, and that's good. Run up to the Coccacidium, blast it with Igni to set it on fire, and hit it a couple of times with Strong Silver or with your torch. When your hitpoints get down to around 20% strength, run away. It will still shoot at you as you're running, so you'll need those hitpoints to survive until you get out of range. Run until it can't hit you anymore, then stand around while Swallow refills your hit points. Eat some food if you have it. When your hit points are full, run back in. Blast it with Igni to set it on fire and repeat the Strong Silver or torch. You can run up and hit it, then run away and heal up as many times as you need to until the monster is dead. It's one tough goddamned plant, but you're fast and it's stationary, and that gives you a huge advantage.The good news is that there's only one Coccacidium. Once you've killed it, other echinops are just echinops.Bloedzuigers burn! Hit one until it's at 3/4 strength, then run away and Igni it from a distance. When it blows up, it'll damage (and probably kill) anything in the vicinity. Make sure YOU'RE not in the vicinity, but just think of bloedzuigers as ambulating bombs and use them to your advantage.You're strong enough and fast enough to take on drowners, drowned dead, and bloedzuigers by this point, but you need to use some strategy and not just hack-hack-hack. Learning how to spot the weaknesses of any particular monster and use those weaknesses to your advantage is an important skill to learn now, because the monsters aren't going to get weaker as you go. ;) There will come a time when you regard drowners as humans regard mosquitoes -- an annoyance to be swatted if it gets close enough. Really!
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godkingofdivineroad

Senior user
#7
Aug 2, 2009
Aside from the acidic blood Bloedzuigers are pretty easy to kill with the Strong style. If you take Bindweed the acid explosion won't bother you at all; in fact it'll be useful for killing off any monsters that are standing nearby. Drowners stop being a problem once you buy the talisman; just use Igni, chase, stun and kill them one by one. I killed the Coccadium the first time I saw it(near the clay pits) though it took me a couple tries. Drink Tawny Owl + Swallow and combine Igni with Strong style(steel sword). If your health gets low run away, heal up and come back to finish it. If you want to play safe, keep blasting it with the ranged(power-up) Igni and then ducking out of it's range.
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#8
Aug 2, 2009
danielsupernova said:
I wonder when I will be able to be prepared to kill the Coccacidium.I almost died in the Archespore near the Clay Pits and this archespore seems much worser.I only know that archespore I killed updated the quest for Vincent...the quest is "Bloodthirsty Vegetation"
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When your questlog received an update you got rid of Coccacidium :beer: You shsuld have its root on your trophy hook after you looted the plant.. Vincent pays for it.
 
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danielsupernova

Senior user
#9
Aug 7, 2009
The problem is that Vincent Meiss don´t talk to me.I suspect him and every time I get near him,he says "One more word and it is the dungeon"
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#10
Aug 7, 2009
Vincent and keep the trophy for Act III, there you can give it to the royal huntsman.
 
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godkingofdivineroad

Senior user
#11
Aug 7, 2009
Strange. He was never that hostile to me. Don't sweat it, you can cash in the trophy in Act III. Till then, it's a nice decoration for Geralt's belt. :)
 
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danielsupernova

Senior user
#12
Aug 9, 2009
But I need the money NOW!I have NO idea when I am going to reach Act III.Act II is TOO difficult and I think the fight with the Golem must be almost impossible,at least for me!
 
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Corylea.723

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#13
Aug 9, 2009
danielsupernova said:
But I need the money NOW!I have NO idea when I am going to reach Act III.Act II is TOO difficult and I think the fight with the Golem must be almost impossible,at least for me!
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Ah. There's a secret to killing the Golem. Did you talk with the druids? Did they mention a certain object that persons with magical ability can invoke? Geralt has magical ability, you know....
If you touch two of the pylons, they'll start to glow. Position the Golem in the center of the triangle formed by the three pylons, go OUTSIDE the triangle and touch the third pylon FROM THE BACK. A bolt of lightning will hit the center of the triangle, taking approximately one-third of the golem's hitpoints. Repeat twice more, and you have one dead golem. (Plus the Sephirot you needed and a potion ingredient, Golem's Pith, that will make you a nice potion.) Make sure you're OUTSIDE the triangle, though, or Geralt will be hit by lightning, too. The golem is very, very slow, and Geralt is very, very, fast, so if you lead the golem far away from the pylons, then dash back in, you should have all the time in the world to get Geralt into position.
 
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godkingofdivineroad

Senior user
#14
Aug 9, 2009
danielsupernova said:
But I need the money NOW!I have NO idea when I am going to reach Act III.Act II is TOO difficult and I think the fight with the Golem must be almost impossible,at least for me!
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Well, if you hate having to grind for money all the time I have a suggestion: download the The Witcher EE v1.5 promo trainer. With just a push of a button you can have all the gold you want.As for the Golem,
If you're unable to get the Lightning attacks right you can just lead the Golem to the Order camp and let them hack away some of its health. At the same time keep spraying it with Igni.
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#15
Aug 9, 2009
This is inflammable...
With an adequate distance between the Golem (who is quite slowly) and Geralt, he can load Igni and release the fire spell on the Golem. Incineration on Igni Level 2 is very useful. After a few blasts the Golem should end up in smoke.
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:evil:
 
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darksavior

Senior user
#16
Aug 9, 2009
danielsupernova said:
But I need the money NOW!
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When I play the witcher, I find myself playing dice poker for the money I need. I save after every other win, and exit the building to get the NPC to restock their supply of coin. In Act 4, I found myself sitting in front of a NPC for hours making enough money to get a new weapon. :hmmm: Another viable (I didn't find it faster though) is fist fighting. Although, I am not really good at it :teeth:Golum Fight
The first time I defeated the golem, the pylons killed me every time. It seemed my Geralt liked to be on the edge of the triangle. So when he turned the last pylon on, he got zapped. So, I downed a blizzard, tawny owl, swallow, and fought him man to..erm..stone/clay? I lead him around the pylons. Igni for damage (when I realized my sword was hitting him for 1). Also, I used Aard if he got to close. It was a really long fight. ;DAlso, on my second and third play-through, I used the pylons. I found it easier to do this fight in OTS mode. Three zaps with the pylons and the golem was dead. Much, quicker.
 
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Corylea.723

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#17
Aug 9, 2009
There's a thread with suggestions about how to make enough money here: http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=19206.0
 
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danielsupernova

Senior user
#18
Aug 28, 2009
Ok,I defeated the Coccidium.The echinops are easier now.I killed one near the cave in Swamp Forest,with no risk of dying.But how do you know the name is Coccidium?When I fight it,the name displayed was simply Echinops or something like that.Where do you get the information?
 
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reaper004

Senior user
#19
Aug 29, 2009
I... Hate... The... Spawns....
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#20
Aug 29, 2009
danielsupernova said:
Ok,I defeated the Coccidium.The echinops are easier now.I killed one near the cave in Swamp Forest,with no risk of dying.But how do you know the name is Coccidium?When I fight it,the name displayed was simply Echinops or something like that.Where do you get the information?
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When you loot the carcass it's remains are entitled Coccacidium and you pick it pick up you will hear the sound as if you get a new quest. The carcass you pick up gets on your trophy hook. If this didn't happen you haven't killed the Coccacidium, which is an Archespore not an Echinopse.
 
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