[ACT III] Beauty and the Beast - Werewolf

[Treasa]

Ok, I agree that the player shouldn't be able to get everything but as far as I know, werewolves are still mammals and mammals shed. It seems to me that with all that werewolf posturing he does, there should be a tuft of fur somewhere, and while I commend Carmen for sweeping every time I see her indoors, there's no one on this planet that ever gets ALL the fur an animal releases in a home, not to mention, Vincent should at least have some residual fur on his uniform. Glad you figured out the problem, Cesar.

 

[Corylea.723]

Ok, I agree that the player shouldn't be able to get everything but as far as I know, werewolves are still mammals and mammals shed. It seems to me that with all that werewolf posturing he does, there should be a tuft of fur somewhere, and while I commend Carmen for sweeping every time I see her indoors, there's no one on this planet that ever gets ALL the fur an animal releases in a home, not to mention, Vincent should at least have some residual fur on his uniform.

Well, since it's a magical thing, perhaps it has to be the fur of a DEAD werewolf to be effective. That would make it all make sense.

 

[eglard]

Or also the skin part. This time I am going to skin the damn wolf puppy, no matter what (yes Im playing evil witcher :evil. I hate doing that for carmen, but it will be intresting to see her reaction...

 

[hamenaglar]

I think this issue here is done a bit poorly by developers. This game is filled with shades of gray and this decision is well, black and white, cure the innocent or kill him. I don't particularly like vincent and I don't like the ending of this quest, actually both endings make me feel dissapointed. I would love if there were few more options. The stance of my geralt is that not every monster can be saved and when he faces vincent, he isn't sure if he can save him as vincent doesn't want to be saved.

 

[petra_silie]

I think save means in this context let him live. At least it's the impression I got when they talked to each other. Geralt can kill him from the viewpoint he is a beast or trust him that he only kills criminals as we could see before they encounter... he killed the salamandras approached the fat merchant and let him alive.

 

[hamenaglar]

I think save means in this context let him live. At least it's the impression I got when they talked to each other. Geralt can kill him from the viewpoint he is a beast or trust him that he only kills criminals as we could see before they encounter... he killed the salamandras approached the fat merchant and let him alive.

But he doesn't want to be cured and sooner or later he will become a monster.I'm coming soon to a meeting with vincent the werewolf again and I don't know what to choose. On one hand there is a cheesy ending with true love that I absolutely hate and on another there's well this act portrayed as evil. I don't know, I'm confused.

 

[puumba]

While the predator mutation is cool and all that, it is not necessary to win the game, not even close. Gerald rocks in combat even on the Hard level. Though I agree that it would make sense to be able to get werewolf fur from Carmen as combings, it is not necessary. Besides I like the love story part and helping Vincent does help you later.......... 8)And yes I played it both ways and no it is not worth it to *** him. :dead:Vincent is cool in the book and the game.

 

[Gamewidow]

I agree ... it broke my heart to kill him. I could only bring myself to do it once :witchmas:

 

[ifayra]

You are so mean, I couldn't do even one time

 

[Gamewidow]

i'm a bad, bad woman :evil:

 

[evilsod]

I think the biggest problem with this choice is that its not 'Good or Evil?', like you'd expect it to be. Ok it is a little difficult to categorize, on the 1 hand your killing a good character, but you can't be completely sure he'll remain good as the werewolf.The choice focus' more on be good and save him, or kill him for the Mutagen as oppose to kill him because all monsters should die. There isn't really any incentive in game to kill him unless your making Geralt into a b*st*rd, the only incentive is because you get a very powerful reward. Sure you can live without it (all hail Igni...), and its obviously not too big a bonus or people wouldn't be choosing the other path, but it is a bit of an annoying choice.

 

[Gamewidow]

In the Witcher stories and novels, Geralt is forced to make hard choices all the time, and often, he's the only one to perceive the "good" in what he's done (we, of course as readers side with him, but the characters the stories don't --- take the Blaviken incident for example)so i think the werewolf decision i more based on that aspect. you, as Geralt must decide if *you* think vincent will remain (or become) a general threat if he is not cured or killed. If you honestly feel that killing him is the only solution "for the greater good", then that's what you do. The fact that the game does not reward you handsomely for doing this is perfectly in keeping with what Geralt, the character in the original fiction, goes through all the timehe busts his ass, saving humanity and is branded a butcher and a murderer for his efforts eace:

 

[grandempereor]

I think, the decission wether to kill the werewolf or not is also heavily influenced on your relation to Carmen. If you have learend her ture story, there might be a good chance that you won't think of what killing the werewolf might bring you, but what she gains, if you cure him.

Spoiler

In Act I, you learn that the reverend has a daughter who he forced in to abortion and condemming her to make a living in "the oldest business of the world" in Vyzima, her name is Hela. You have the chance to ask Carmen for her real name, she tells you, it is Hela. If you saved Abigail, you have killed her father. She is deeply in love with Vincent, so curing him seems the best way to give her a better future.

 

[petra_silie]

This is one arguement not to kill the werewolf aka Vincent. An other argument is that no don't find any evidence that the werewolf killed innocent poeple so far. We even see a scene with this fat merchant in the cutscene which emphasize this. There is a chance that he changes his attitude but no indication for it so far. The only arguement for me to kill the werewolf was the loot so far, nothing story related.

 

[evilsod]

The only arguement for me to kill the werewolf was the loot so far, nothing story related.

Thats my point. Evidence strongly suggests that he's somewhat in control of his bloodlust. The only incentive for killing him is the Fur because by now you probably have the potion recipe so know what it is, its not really a moral decision on both sides. Either you don't think he should die or you want the fur, not much evidence to say he deserves to die.

 

[username_2085276]

I thought it was a pretty straight forward ideological vs. personal decision. If you are RP'ing as a straight witcher, it makes sense to kill him since he's a monster. If you are playing from a personal morality standpoint, you don't kill him. Mutagen thrown in for some sort of balance.

 

[Snusmumriken]

I thought it was a pretty straight forward ideological vs. personal decision. If you are RP'ing as a straight witcher, it makes sense to kill him since he's a monster. If you are playing from a personal morality standpoint, you don't kill him. Mutagen thrown in for some sort of balance.

I don't think it's that easy. Remember what Dandelion tells Geralt about their mutual friend Regis at Shani's party. One of the (wonderful) themes of this game is that Geralt has the choice to adapt to the changing of the world; monsters can act humane and humans can do monstrous things.

 

[rodgex]

I don't think it's that easy. Remember what Dandelion tells Geralt about their mutual friend Regis at Shani's party. One of the (wonderful) themes of this game is that Geralt has the choice to adapt to the changing of the world; monsters can act humane and humans can do monstrous things.

For me i couldnt kill him after he killed some of the enemies...and he's not a bad character in my opinion.

Spoiler

In chapter 5 if u save Adda from being a striga Geralt says that curing an illness is a Witcher's first choice, and that the sword is the last resort, which points to saving Vincent besides the only reward is one potion

 

[evilsod]

I thought it was a pretty straight forward ideological vs. personal decision. If you are RP'ing as a straight witcher, it makes sense to kill him since he's a monster. If you are playing from a personal morality standpoint, you don't kill him. Mutagen thrown in for some sort of balance.

Not quite. Geralt mentions earlier in the game about how, if possible, they prefer to remove the curse/spell as oppose to killing the monster. Witchers in general, not just him. Backed up quite strongly with the opening movie and Adda. At this point you probably already know that the werewolf is 'Carmens man', and very likely you talked to the Hierophant and found out just how simple curing it is. The only real incentive behind killing him is the mutagen ingredient.

 

[mardana]

I guess from a morale standpoint, I lucked out. When the battle choice came up I hadn't even been thinking about the mutagen so, it did not affect my decision. I just chose what seemed right--not to kill him. All along in the game I had been expecting to encounter werewolves elsewhere since there were so many wolves in the game anyhow. I think most people would make this same choice unless they already knew this was their only opportunity beforehand.