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Admit it. Who cried at [SPOILER...] ?

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Raven_Luni

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Jul 8, 2015
Admit it. Who cried at [SPOILER...] ?

...Vesemir's funeral.

Yes I shed real tears at this.
I've been moved before by a good book or film, but never by a game. This goes to show how beautifully done this whole story was and how developed and endearing its characters are.

Fucking bravo!
 
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ustandic

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Jul 8, 2015
I did. But actually Ciri's scream makes it more efficient.
Then I went talk to Lambert. Then I started laughing. That prick :rolleyes:
 
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Toyen

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Jul 9, 2015
I didn´t. The most heartbreaking scene for me was with Síle.
 
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LazyBugger

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Jul 9, 2015
Nope, the only two scenes that caught me off guard and choked me up a little were the two scenes involving Ciri where I believed she had died, that hurt :/. More so the first one in the hut as you could see Geralt hurting, no emotion my ass :).
 
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saricc

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Jul 9, 2015
Yeah, when Geralt first found Ciri I let a tear or two go. Vesemir's funeral made me watery eyed, but I was mostly just pissed lol.
 
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saladin1701

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Jul 9, 2015
saricc said:
Yeah, when Geralt first found Ciri I let a tear or two go. Vesemir's funeral made me watery eyed, but I was mostly just pissed lol.
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That scene was amazing. If it had been a real actor he'd have deserved an oscar for that performance.
 
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smilydude13

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Jul 9, 2015
I didn't. I mean, Vesemir dying was sad, but the way in which he died was just frustrating and predictable. He was reduced down to being the "old mentor" archetype, and in stereotypical fashion he has to job to the villains and die pointlessly. And he died to the most underwhelming group of scooby doo skeletor villains ever, due to the heavy handed plot device of everybody except him and Ciri conveniently being frozen, and to add insult to injury he doesn't even put up a good fight while he's manhandled by a baby faced elf, having his neck snapped like a baby after stabbing Imlerith futilely. Of course, only then can Ciri actually do something useful, not before. It seems like his entire purpose for the game was to job, and die to provoke a cliche power-up. I would say he's like Android 17, but hell, at least he got to kick some ass before he got offed. Vesemir just came across as decrepit.

The guy was 300-400 years old, as a Witcher. He survived practically everything for that long, meaning that he had to be a real tough cookie, and that's what kills him. What a shame.
 
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moonknightgog

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Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
I didn't. I mean, Vesemir dying was sad, but the way in which he died was just frustrating and predictable. He was reduced down to being the "old mentor" archetype, and in stereotypical fashion he has to job to the villains and die pointlessly. And he died to the most underwhelming group of scooby doo skeletor villains ever, due to the heavy handed plot device of everybody except him and Ciri conveniently being frozen, and to add insult to injury he doesn't even put up a good fight while he's manhandled by a baby faced elf, having his neck snapped like a baby after stabbing Imlerith futilely. Of course, only then can Ciri actually do something useful, not before. It seems like his entire purpose for the game was to job, and die to provoke a cliche power-up. I would say he's like Android 17, but hell, at least he got to kick some ass before he got offed. Vesemir just came across as decrepit.

The guy was 300-400 years old, as a Witcher. He survived practically everything for that long, meaning that he had to be a real tough cookie, and that's what kills him. What a shame.
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Ehm...no?

First...his dead was not pointless, because he died saving Ciri.
He wounded Eredin and kick Imlerith ass.
He stabbed Imlerith in order to stop Ciri to go with Eredin.

Yeah, his neck was snapped, but Imlerith was way stronger (physically).
 
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smilydude13

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Jul 9, 2015
moonknightgog said:
Ehm...no?

First...his dead was not pointless, because he died saving Ciri.
He wounded Eredin and kick Imlerith ass.
He stabbed Imlerith in order to stop Ciri to go with Eredin.

Yeah, his neck was snapped, but Imlerith was way stronger (physically).
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Ehm... yes?

He didn't die saving Ciri, he died trying to save Ciri, and failing miserably after distracting them for 15 seconds. Ciri saved herself after that.

He seems to have scratched Eredin, didn't really wound him significantly. He knocked Imlerith over, which he promptly recovered from. Hardly kicking his ass.

He pointlessly stabbed Imlerith, this accomplished nothing other than Imlerith brushing it off and breaking his neck like he was some annoying child. This had the accidental effect of provoking Ciri's convenient and predictable power up, which was what actually did anything.

Vesemir was nothing more than a nuisance dealing out superficial damage who is then crushed utterly.
 
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LaPadite

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Jul 9, 2015
Raven Luni said:
...Vesemir's funeral.

Yes I shed real tears at this.
I've been moved before by a good book or film, but never by a game. This goes to show how beautifully done this whole story was and how developed and endearing its characters are.

Fucking bravo!
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I cried during all sex scenes.
 
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Alpha3

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Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
I didn't. I mean, Vesemir dying was sad, but the way in which he died was just frustrating and predictable. He was reduced down to being the "old mentor" archetype, and in stereotypical fashion he has to job to the villains and die pointlessly. And he died to the most underwhelming group of scooby doo skeletor villains ever, due to the heavy handed plot device of everybody except him and Ciri conveniently being frozen, and to add insult to injury he doesn't even put up a good fight while he's manhandled by a baby faced elf, having his neck snapped like a baby after stabbing Imlerith futilely. Of course, only then can Ciri actually do something useful, not before. It seems like his entire purpose for the game was to job, and die to provoke a cliche power-up. I would say he's like Android 17, but hell, at least he got to kick some ass before he got offed. Vesemir just came across as decrepit.

The guy was 300-400 years old, as a Witcher. He survived practically everything for that long, meaning that he had to be a real tough cookie, and that's what kills him. What a shame.
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scooby doo skeletor villains lol. But to be fair imleriths a huge dude compared to vesemir not much he could do pinned up against a wall,
 
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Axtun

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Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
Ehm... yes?

He didn't die saving Ciri, he died trying to save Ciri, and failing miserably after distracting them for 15 seconds. Ciri saved herself after that.

He seems to have scratched Eredin, didn't really wound him significantly. He knocked Imlerith over, which he promptly recovered from. Hardly kicking his ass.

He pointlessly stabbed Imlerith, this accomplished nothing other than Imlerith brushing it off and breaking his neck like he was some annoying child. This had the accidental effect of provoking Ciri's convenient and predictable power up, which was what actually did anything.

Vesemir was nothing more than a nuisance dealing out superficial damage who is then crushed utterly.
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Funny, I have a different view on his futile attempt of stabbing Imlerith. He wanted Ciri to run away but Eredin is using him as a bait to force Ciri to stay. So seeing that he had no chance of running and in order to give Ciri the chance to flee, he stabbed Imlerith to piss him off and kill him. (So that he is not holding back Ciri from running away)
 
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Innamoramento

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Jul 9, 2015
Vesemir's death was sad, but I cried when I saw Sile. My heart was literally shattered.
 
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vcook10

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#14
Jul 9, 2015
I cried when Geralt saw Ciri lying on the bed lifeless... Still tear up even after playing 3 times... For me I was going through so many emotions when Vesemir died that I actually didn't get all that upset... I still had so much adrenaline coursing through my veins that I was like "Oh no, Vesemir died... Where's the next threat!" I wish they would have slowed it down a bit so you could actually mourn his death a bit better than just lighting a pyre and going on with the search for the Wild Hunt... I mean not 10 mins later you're having a happy snowball fight with Ciri...
 
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smilydude13

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Jul 9, 2015
Axtun said:
Funny, I have a different view on his futile attempt of stabbing Imlerith. He wanted Ciri to run away but Eredin is using him as a bait to force Ciri to stay. So seeing that he had no chance of running and in order to give Ciri the chance to flee, he stabbed Imlerith to piss him off and kill him. (So that he is not holding back Ciri from running away)
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That's clearly his idea, but that doesn't make it any less pointless, or make Vesemir job any less than he did. My point was the he was reduced down to being the sacrificial mentor, that very act of provoking his own death so that someone runs away is beyond cliche at this point. And in the end, it was pointless, because Ciri could have saved them all, but plot dictates that Vesemir has to die for cheap drama first.
 
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Axtun

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Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
That's clearly his idea, but that doesn't make it any less pointless, or make Vesemir job any less than he did. My point was the he was reduced down to being the sacrificial mentor, that very act of provoking his own death so that someone runs away is beyond cliche at this point. And in the end, it was pointless, because Ciri could have saved them all, but plot dictates that Vesemir has to die for cheap drama first.
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Problem is, if Vesemir had not died, Ciri would not be emotional enough to be able to do what she did after. But I do agree it is a cliche you can see the moment he and Ciri were the only ones that were not frozen.
 
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smilydude13

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Jul 9, 2015
Axtun said:
Problem is, if Vesemir had not died, Ciri would not be emotional enough to be able to do what she did after. But I do agree it is a cliche you can see the moment he and Ciri were the only ones that were not frozen.
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Probably not. But that's my core problem, that the situation was even like that to begin with, with the characters themselves unaware that they just need to make Ciri upset enough to get the hunt to leave. Vesemir's role in the plot is to be a sacrifice. I feel like CDPR is beyond that level of writing, so it was frustrating to see them fall into this trope
 
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Axtun

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Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
Probably not. But that's my core problem, that the situation was even like that to begin with, with the characters themselves unaware that they just need to make Ciri upset enough to get the hunt to leave. Vesemir's role in the plot is to be a sacrifice. I feel like CDPR is beyond that level of writing, so it was frustrating to see them fall into this trope
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True, it would be better if Vesemir put up an EXTREMELY good fight against the wild hunt generals to the point of getting Eredin on his knees but were overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
 
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Bambi111

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Jul 9, 2015
I guess the scene with Sile is a Witcher 2 savegame import thingy? Cause in my two playthroughs that scene doesnt appear.
 
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Tzatrix

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#20
Jul 9, 2015
smilydude13 said:
I didn't. I mean, Vesemir dying was sad, but the way in which he died was just frustrating and predictable. He was reduced down to being the "old mentor" archetype, and in stereotypical fashion he has to job to the villains and die pointlessly. And he died to the most underwhelming group of scooby doo skeletor villains ever, due to the heavy handed plot device of everybody except him and Ciri conveniently being frozen, and to add insult to injury he doesn't even put up a good fight while he's manhandled by a baby faced elf, having his neck snapped like a baby after stabbing Imlerith futilely. Of course, only then can Ciri actually do something useful, not before. It seems like his entire purpose for the game was to job, and die to provoke a cliche power-up. I would say he's like Android 17, but hell, at least he got to kick some ass before he got offed. Vesemir just came across as decrepit.

The guy was 300-400 years old, as a Witcher. He survived practically everything for that long, meaning that he had to be a real tough cookie, and that's what kills him. What a shame.
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Wow...That is what was actually wrong with Vesemir's death scene. When I saw the scene I thought that it's a bit cliche but you described the problem with Vesemir as a character in TW3 perfectly.
 
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