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Pelargon

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#101
Dec 16, 2013
AgentBlue said:
Well, that wasn't the precise correlation I was trying to establish, but then again I won't elaborate.
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I thought you meant women don't mind other naked women just because we aren't super straight or super gay. If that's not the case, I don't really get what you were talking about.
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#102
Dec 16, 2013
Elida said:
I thought you meant women don't mind other naked women just because we aren't super straight or super gay. If that's not the case, I don't really get what you were talking about.
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No. My point was because men, being more polarized, tend to be quite zealous of how their sexual orientation, specifically heterosexuality, is perceived. Either showing one's genitalia around other men or not retracting in discomfort at the sight of third party male genitalia might be perceived as a sign of a less sturdy heterosexuality. Anyway, back on topic.
 
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Pelargon

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#103
Dec 16, 2013
AgentBlue said:
No. My point was because men, being more polarized, tend to be quite zealous of how their sexual orientation, specifically heterosexuality, is perceived. Either showing one's genitalia around other men or not retracting in discomfort at the sight of third party male genitalia might be perceived as a sign of a less sturdy heterosexuality. Anyway, back on topic.
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Ah, okay. I get it. Thanks for explaining your point. I think you're on to something, there.
Yes, back on topic :)
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#104
Dec 17, 2013
emperorzorn said:
What I'd like to see in TW3 in terms of "adult content", if it can even be called that,
would be a bathhouse where Geralt can chill out in one of these big wooden tubs (from the books), and have a chat with his friends.
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This is a great idea. Geralt chillin' with Dandy and Zoltan, swigging Vodka in a hot spring. But there should be co-op ones at the brothel. Ladies, ladies everywhere.

 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#105
Dec 17, 2013
slimgrin said:
This is a great idea. Geralt chillin' with Dandy and Zoltan, swigging Vodka in a hot spring. But there should be co-op ones at the brothel. Ladies, ladies everywhere.

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Just don't let them share anything more than vodka. I draw the line here, no need of video orgies.
 
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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#106
Dec 17, 2013
vivaxardas said:
Just don't let them share anything more than vodka. I draw the line here, no need of video orgies.
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What, no QTE video orgies lol.
JK
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#107
Dec 17, 2013
GENERALIZING, VERY, VERY GENERALIZING:

Women seeing Frontal naked woman (an image quite accepted and treat it as normal) = "this is the woman I like to be"

Men seeing Frontal naked man (an image hardly accepted and treat it like a rape of their virility)= invariable (not inevitable) comparison of size

That's the poor truth, the body of women can be easily criticism because it is a "public male possesion", idea generated by centuries of culture. But the body of men is sacred, nobody can critize the "virility" of a man without being beat it or even killed for such desecration, so showing in frontal way a naked male body is like attepmting directly in his manliness (except if he is shown making what a male must to be with a woman).

That can hurt not tanned sensitivities, depending countries and believes and educations but basically all this controversy starts here. The rest is personal opinions.
 
GHOSTMD

GHOSTMD

Senior user
#108
Dec 17, 2013
What, no QTE video orgies lol.
JK
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WHAAAATTT?! No kinky fuckery QTE's with emhyr?? OUUUUUHHHHHWWWWWWW
Kinky Emhyr


@Wichat

aye.... guess thats kinda sad my lady isn t it? Reminds me of the discussion barbie doll
gives young girls an unreachable ideal of the women pic... during same time HEMAN (or equal)
doesn t gives out such controversy, besides it gives an unreachable ideal for most of the
men to...

But thats our society... maybe (in general to) you can say adult content in video games
is just mirroring those double standards.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#109
Dec 17, 2013
GHOSTMD said:
@Wichat

aye.... guess thats kinda sad my lady isn t it? Reminds me of the discussion barbie doll
gives young girls an unreachable ideal of the women pic... during same time HEMAN (or equal)
doesn t gives out such controversy, besides it gives an unreachable ideal for most of the
men to...

But thats our society... maybe (in general to) you can say adult content in video games
is just mirroring those double standards.
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I don't know this discussion barbie doll, but one thing is for sure: a message is ALWAYS send it just to find the WISHED reaction and trying to handle by the remitter. A good and professional plan of marketing (benefits, money, benefits) will touch the most responsive chord: women still be a male sexual object, and men still be the badass leader. Not easy to fight against this wave if you're not a tsunami....

And yes, unreachable ideal for most of the men to... and that's why they usually cannot accept that thier physycal image be published as it is in a frontal naked pose. I mean, cosmetic surgery was born by and for men (in hospitals in war and post war). But operating surgically war wounded soldiers gave no benefits, Hollywood was its salvation.
Today women operate their breasts without complexes because the breasts are displayed, covered or not by tight clothing. But a man's testicles have always been well protected, hidden and nothing obvious under any pants. Have been of benefit, fashion have boosted leggings and aesthetic surgery for the penis.
You like naked women and society has given you the advantage of being able to see them at your leisure. I really like naked men and society has censored works of art such as Michelangelo's David. Do I explain myself Rightly? I'm exposing a fact, not a desire.
 
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username_3682323

Rookie
#110
Dec 17, 2013
No offense but TW2 was pretty uncensored. It was one of the few games I have played that made me go wow this is edgy. Don't get me wrong I thought they did most things right and prefered the sex scenes to most of biowares creepy ackarwd scenes (DAO underwear scenes).
 
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whiplash27

Senior user
#111
Dec 17, 2013
In the end, we don't need to see Geralt's dong and we don't need to see any woman spread her legs and see all of the details of what she's got down there.

A frontal shot of a man exposes more down there than a woman. As I said, keep it rated R. Heck you can even go to the level of cable TV porn, just don't go to that next level.

Either way CDPR probably won't even go to that level. I can only imagine if they got an Adults Only rating from the ESRB or even banned in some countries.

ADULTS ONLY
Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.
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wichat

wichat

Mentor
#112
Dec 17, 2013
AnthonyF1227 said:
In the end, we don't need to see Geralt's dong and we don't need to see any woman spread her legs and see all of the details of what she's got down there.
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I agree


AnthonyF1227 said:
A frontal shot of a man exposes more down there than a woman.
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I don't agree. I feel as well showing my frontal than you showing yours. Why my naked body (or Triss's body) exposes less than yours (or Geralt's one)?
 
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soldiergeralt

Forum veteran
#113
Dec 18, 2013
he's got a point actually, the female sex organs are mostly internal and covered by beef curtains while the male sex organ just hangs out there for all the world to see.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#114
Dec 18, 2013
Breasts are sexuals organs too, another tool of the reproductive process and there are not an organ just hanged out there for all the world to see. But as they are not your organs, as a male, you cannot never see and feel this way.

With a minimum of anthropological knowledge you know that throughout history women have been treated as inferior ( there are books where the stupid and ineffective nature of Woman by great " philosophers " is explained ) . The woman can not think , do not have enough intelligence to lead anything , women marry and only serves to give the man male offspring . Women do not vote, no opinion , just shut up and obey. And from this there are still countries where people live on these criteria, in the West a century ago it barely.


Under such a being made only for reproduction has only one way to attract a man, magnifying its most visible sexual organs : their breasts and buttocks, as animals do when they are in zeal. But in a fictional perpetual zeal.
Fashion in centuries was engaged in bulk with the rear yards of fabric , necklines became more generous. Men have never had to show off their sexual organs in order to survive , decide or get a wife . That's why they have remained there, well sacred and hidden from view of strangers.
 
Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#115
Dec 18, 2013
seamusgod said:
the female sex organs are mostly internal and covered by beef curtains
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Wow. Just... Wow.
 
Zanderat

Zanderat

Forum veteran
#116
Dec 18, 2013
Wichat said:
Breasts are sexuals organs too, another tool of the reproductive process and there are not an organ just hanged out there for all the world to see. But as they are not your organs, as a male, you cannot never see and feel this way.
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I like breasts as much as the next guy, but their main intended purpose is to feed the young'ns.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#117
Dec 18, 2013
Somehow I think that this thread has pretty much reached a natural end. Anyone have anything relevant to say?
 
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Sirnaq

Rookie
#118
Dec 18, 2013
Wichat said:
GENERALIZING, VERY, VERY GENERALIZING:

Women seeing Frontal naked woman (an image quite accepted and treat it as normal) = "this is the woman I like to be"

Men seeing Frontal naked man (an image hardly accepted and treat it like a rape of their virility)= invariable (not inevitable) comparison of size

That's the poor truth, the body of women can be easily criticism because it is a "public male possession", idea generated by centuries of culture. But the body of men is sacred, nobody can critize the "virility" of a man without being beat it or even killed for such desecration, so showing in frontal way a naked male body is like attepmting directly in his manliness (except if he is shown making what a male must to be with a woman).

That can hurt not tanned sensitivities, depending countries and believes and educations but basically all this controversy starts here. The rest is personal opinions.
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Disagree. There is no comparison of size and it has nothing to do with social outlook. When i suddenly see naked man i am in shock, the sensation is similar to seeing severed hand or gore in general but with less intensity, it is primal in nature. I would never even consider my body to be holly or sacred and instead of comparing my body parts i would instantly look elsewhere. I guess everyone could get used to it like everybody can get used to seeing dead bodies.
 
EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

Moderator
#119
Dec 18, 2013
Sirnaq said:
When i suddenly see naked man i am in shock
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Dead Space 4: now with naked men jumpscares. :p
 
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Sirnaq

Rookie
#120
Dec 18, 2013
emperorzorn said:
Dead Space 4: now with naked men jumpscares.
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That would be terrifying.
 
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