Adult Content (Part 2)

[Elegast7]

I also liked how it was done in TW2, it doesn't need to be more (or less ) for me.

 

[wichat]

Disagree. There is no comparison of size and it has nothing to do with social outlook. When i suddenly see naked man i am in shock, the sensation is similar to seeing severed hand or gore in general but with less intensity, it is primal in nature. I would never even consider my body to be holly or sacred and instead of comparing my body parts i would instantly look elsewhere. I guess everyone could get used to it like everybody can get used to seeing dead bodies.

What part of GENERALIZING, VERY, VERY GENERALIZING: haven't you understood?

 

[Sirnaq]

What part of GENERALIZING, VERY, VERY GENERALIZING: haven't you understood?

Even if you say you are generalizing you are still generalizing.

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Also i don't like this notion that every man while looking at naked woman thinks: "HA! I noble father-lord am objectifying this petty woman like those gems and gold in my big phat treasury. " end of quote.

Instead what i believe, most man have warm, pleasent feelings that are also very primal and have nothing to do with objectifying or possession. It's just nature, and no wonder people get mad when somebody try to tell them otherwise. Pity that corporations try to exploit those pleasant feelings but that doesn't make all males some pathological possesion maniacs.

 

[wichat]

Even if you say you are generalizing you are still generalizing.

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Also i don't like this notion that every man while looking at naked woman thinks: "HA! I noble father-lord am objectifying this petty woman like those gems and gold in my big phat treasury. " end of quote.

Instead what i believe, most man have warm, pleasent feelings that are also very primal and have nothing to do with objectifying or possession. It's just nature, and no wonder people get mad when somebody try to tell them otherwise. Pity that corporations try to exploit those pleasant feelings but that doesn't make all males some pathological possesion maniacs.

It's not nature, because some tribes around the world don't hide their male organs.... It's culture.

*Sacred by their historical untouchability, occultation or omissioncompared to female sexual organs (and including breasts) image use

 

[Sirnaq]

It's not nature, because some tribes around the world don't hide their male organs.... It's culture.

As you said, those are tribes. Very close societies where everyone knows each other. The relations between each members in tribes are very strong just like in family. But they reaction to strangers from other tribes is usually aggresive. In ancient times before economy and before development of trade, stranger approaching tribe was as good as dead. There is difference between seeing naked someone close to you, or seeing naked stranger that may be your enemy. It's primal defensive reaction to danger.

 

[wichat]

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Romans and greeks never had problems to see another pennis... i.e. for not talking about Asian's cultures. Rules of Forum don't aloow me to talk about religion, but you know perfectly what made and makes in Occidental society.

 

[Sirnaq]

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Romans and greeks never had problems to see another pennis... i.e. They were not tribes...

You were living in ancient greek or rome so you know?

True, they have a lot of naturalistic depictions of man in art but as you know there is difference between seeing marble sculpture and seeing real thing. Also cities of today are much bigger than cities then also because of lack of migrations, the genetical differences between each individual were not as big as they are now. So recognition of you/we was different.

 

[Fandango9641]

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Romans and greeks never had problems to see another pennis... i.e. for not talking about Asian's cultures. Rules of Forum don't aloow me to talk about religion, but you know perfectly what made and makes in Occidental society.

Honestly Wichat, there's really no need to argue the point when all you need do is underline his. Hey Sirnaq, would you be so kind as to throw up a picture of your little peanut - its not objectifying if it makes someone feel warm and pleasant, right? Good lad.

 

[Sirnaq]

Honestly Wichat, there's really no need to argue the point when all you need do is underline his. Hey Sirnaq, would you be so kind as to throw up a picture of your little peanut - its not objectifying if it makes someone feel warm and pleasant, right? Good lad.

It's against the rules hon. />

 

[Fandango9641]

It's against the rules hon. />/>

Booooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[Sirnaq]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooo.

If you would read my post you would know that i would also upset male users.

 

[Fandango9641]

If you would read my post you would know that i would also upset male users.

Anus?

 

[GHOSTMD]

*smirking

With a minimum of anthropological knowledge you know that throughout history women have been treated as inferior ( there are books where the stupid and ineffective nature of Woman by great " philosophers " is explained ) . The woman can not think , do not have enough intelligence to lead anything , women marry and only serves to give the man male offspring . Women do not vote, no opinion , just shut up and obey. And from this there are still countries where people live on these criteria, in the West a century ago it barely

Thats right women, now go to kitchen and make ma a sandwich
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*dodges a slap from wichat*

Just kidding

BTW:

Breasts are sexuals organs too, another tool of the reproductive process and there are not an organ just hanged out there for all the world to see. But as they are not your organs, as a male, you cannot never see and feel this way.

Did anybody had the feel to that Triss had hugher breast nude than normal?

And i rly wouldn t mind if they where a bit smaller (just saying) Not a fan of over C
cups...

Ok wichat has a point here, breast are sexual organs to, maybe we are all overstimulated?
I mean that we don t see breast any longer as sexual characteristic? I always stated that
i didn t saw Morenn "activ" anymore after a few visits... maybe in general its in our society the same. We see that many naked skin that we just don t realize anylonger as
"sexual content".

And what bothers me more or better... i am afraid of to much violence and gore... in my
country TW3 would never see the light it there is to much of it and i don t know if
that is called MATURE CONTET to.

 

[Agent_Blue]

Honestly Wichat, there's really no need to argue the point when all you need do is underline his. Hey Sirnaq, would you be so kind as to throw up a picture of your little peanut - its not objectifying if it makes someone feel warm and pleasant, right? Good lad.

My, my.

The question WIchat has not answered is why it would be legitimate for novelists to depict sexual intimacy asymmetrically, i. e,, being quite descriptive about the object of the protagonist's lust while being very elliptic about the protagonist himself, but not for a cutscene director to the the exact same thing.

That's the question in dire need to be answered.
Because everything else now is sort of looking like fireworks to me.

Additionally, if one feels showing women's bodies is objectifying them, them the follow through isn't showing male bodies either, but rather caching both.

Looks like this thread is not about to die a natural death. Let's hope it doesn't succumb from an artificial demise either.

 

[Pelargon]

Did anybody had the feel to that Triss had hugher breast nude than normal? />

And i rly wouldn t mind if they where a bit smaller /> (just saying) Not a fan of over C
cups...

It's not like there aren't women with big breasts... If it's all a matter of taste, why can't they be big?

 

[Fandango9641]

My, my.

The question WIchat has not answered is why it would be legitimate for novelists to depict sexual intimacy asymmetrically, i. e,, being quite descriptive about the object of the protagonist's lust while being very elliptic about the protagonist himself, but not for a cutscene director to the the exact same thing.

That's the question in dire need to be answered.
Because everything else now is sort of looking like fireworks to me.

Additionally, if one feels showing women's bodies is objectifying them, them the follow through isn't showing male bodies either, but rather caching both.

Which is to make the case for what exactly? That a certain approach to depicting sexual content in a book should inform CDPR's approach to presenting nudity in their videogames? May I ask why? And - to be clear - I'm all for a little titillation in my popular entertainment - I'm just loathe to indulge those who would see that content only skewed in favour of us blokes.

 

[Agent_Blue]

Which is to make the case for what exactly? That a certain approach to depicting sexual content in a book should inform CDPR's approach to presenting nudity in their videogames? May I ask why? And - to be clear - I'm all for a little titillation in my popular entertainment - I'm just loathe to indulge those who would see that content only skewed in favour of us blokes.

You are entitled to loathe whatever you feel like loathing.

However the point remains. From a literary technique standpoint, it's a perfectly legitimate option to tale when it comes to sex scenes, to «skew [them] in favour of us blokes», namely because the scenes will be seen through the male protagonist's eyes.

Since this point is rather straightforward but has received no counter thus far, I am left with the conclusion that those who so ardently wish to have sex scenes go through some sort of gender equalization process, so to speak, wish so not out of a desire to improve the narrative depth of the scenes in question but due to ulterior motives, which, though respectable, have no bearing on this discussion nonetheless.

 

[Fandango9641]

You are entitled to loathe whatever you feel like loathing.

However the point remains. From a literary technique standpoint, it's a perfectly legitimate option to tale when it comes to sex scenes, to «skew [them] in favour of us blokes», namely because the scenes will be seen through the male protagonist's eyes.

Since this point is rather straightforward but has received no counter thus far, I am left with the conclusion that those who so ardently wish to have sex scenes go through some sort of gender equalization process, so to speak, wish so not out of a desire to improve the narrative depth of the scenes in question but due to some ulterior motives, which, though respectable, have no bearing whatsoever on this discussion.

Nudity might reasonably be presented for any number of different reasons AB, the vast majority of which aren't covered by that example of yours. You make no point at all.

 

[Agent_Blue]

Nudity might reasonably be presented for any number of different reasons AB, the vast majority of which aren't covered by that example of yours. You make no point at all.

You have yet again failed to give me an answer as to why from a literary technique standpoint it is not legitimate to have sex scenes depicted asymmetrically, given that the protagonist is a male character.

The reason for this omission of yours is now quite apparent and made clear by your choice of words in your previous post.

And so I rest my case.

 

[Fandango9641]

You have yet again failed to give me an answer as to why from a literary technique standpoint it is not legitimate to have sex scenes depicted asymmetrically, given that the protagonist is a male character.

The reason for this omission of yours is now quite apparent and made clear by your choice of words in your previous post.

And so I rest my case.

Before you rest your case AB, you might first want to make one (well beyond saying that asymmetrically skewed sex scenes are legitimate). Carry on.