I don't think it's about finding closure but more about finding inner peace. It's not like we just didn't wanted to play Gwent anymore. It was taken from us. That is the significant difference. AND on top the developers are withholding the OB version. They COULD let us play it, but they just won't.
Why would they? They decided to change the game as they did and they don't want to keep the old version running because they won't be adding any content or putting any work into maintnance of an obsolete version of the game. Even though there are players that enjoyed beta i still doubt that many would return to a completely stale game with no new content nor maintnance just because they enjoyed it more than the current version.
They don't need to keep it running. Make it an offline version against AI or friends. That's all they need to do. I'd even pay a few Euro for that.
[ . . . ] Of course gamers get invested into the games that they spend hundreds/thousands of hours playing. There is nothing strange or surprising about that. It's also understandable that these players are going to have strong feelings about their game being completely changed. A game that they might have spent a lot of money on.
I have not seen the balancing that you are talking about. Homecoming has been very very lacking in balancing. Cards that serve no purpose and never see play just sit there waiting on a change that doesn't come. Archetypes that need a lot of help are sitting and waiting for cards that don't appear even though hundreds of cards are put into the game. Syndicate is added and even after it was tested it was still very unbalanced to the point that the devs have to promise to buff the other factions to make up for it. A balanced game is a game where the vast majority of the cards are equally playable. i don't see that in this game. Weather cards are virtually untouched. Cards that were OP are nerfed into oblivion and never seen again (sihil). The devs made the very strange imo choice to put artifacts in the game which are just another form of untouchable points that thorugh the history of the game are far too difficult to balance. It's bad for the game to have cards that you need specific removal cards to do anything about. It's only a matter of time before they do a big nerf on summoning circle which is extremely strong if it's not removed. I really wanted some good balancing changed the last patch but instead they added a whole new faction which is going to need many balancing changes of it's own. Now I'm just waiting to see exactly how much they are able to accomplish with the bronze balacing they say is coming up. Hopefully it's very substantial.
The beta was not great, it is true. It was in such a state, because every few months responsible for the game had a different concept, or did nothing with the game for half a year. Yes, the creators of the game were guilty that the game was in that condition. Most likely, if Jason Slama then would take care of it, we would be in a better Gwent world.
Lots of players left during the beta simply because the burnt out with the game. I myself took a year long break just before mid winter patch. I think that adding a mobile release along with HC or during beta would have boosted or at least helped to maintain the number of players, adding new players to the game instead of those leaving. I'm afraid that the upcoming mobile release will not have such an effect so much time after the release on the other platforms.
Every few months? Rethaz has been in charge until MW and , until HC, game was updated regularly. so no, these are no the the reasons why beta was not great.
No, not really. There are tons of great games with relatively low player numbers.
Have they got robbed? No, every single penny was given back in the form of in-game currency and to go as far as saying the game is completely different is a bit of a stretch, yes the value of cards, the thinning, leader effects are changed, but Gwent is still the game it was before with the changes of how much numbers a card provides! There are still unique effects, cool strategies and big brain decks, they are just not with the EXACT same feel as the ones in beta Gwent.
Wow, yea Beta had 300k viewers because there was no MTGArena, HS was in the shittiest that was ever been and people were searching for a game to grab their attention, don't tell me HC ruined the game because you are lying to others and yourself. Noxious and Lifecoach were some of the reason for the popularity, and because they left, a lot of people followed that example, because they were fans of the streamers not the game. Happened to a lot of games, I can name a lot but no reason for it. I am not going to repeat my post, your points lose value in my eyes the more I read it. You can have your own agendas, don't mistake them with facts though.
No stretch. The game old Gwent was scrapped and they started from scratch. All of the playtesting we had done was for nothing. 3 rows changed to 2 rows. 3 bronzes per deck changed to two. Provision system added. Leaders standing on the board. Nearly all card abilities changed. Hand limit changed. Archetypes altered or scrapped. The game is similar to old Gwent but also extremely different. It's expected that players who invested heavily into the game would have a strong reaction to see it completely thrown out for something else.
That´s just not correct. The testing lead to decisions and the result was that the developers didn´t like it or didn´t see much more potential. So they did this:
Now you're just making up stuff. Nobody said beta was perfect nor perfectly balanced. Playing the "nostalgia" card is also a bit cheap. I mean, sure, our brain is made to remember only the positive things in life since that's all we need but that doesn't mean you didn't enjoy something more back then than you do now.
This entire topic is dedicated to the "poor state of Gwent today" and "why i uninstalled it". Large portions of the posts that i read compare the current gwent to beta, how HC ruined the game for them and how boring and unbalanced it is even after the expansions. Nothing wrong with that but comparing something current to a thing of the past that you enjoyed but that will never come back is called nostalgia in my book.
