name 1 other game that you beta tested a completely different game than 1.0 release?Game dies. Gwent isn't any different from other games. I don't see it happening here though. At least, not at this stage.
And herein lies the issue. This basically sums up both sides of the argument.at this point, it doesn't matter if Thronebreaker Online is a good, great or exceptional game. What matters is what the players think. [...] If people are not pleased with the game, regardless of the quality and effort put into it, the people will go elsewhere.
Fair enough.Yea, and that's a bit of the problem right there... ingame resources in a game I no longer want to play are just lost money.
Look, I get what you are saying... I generally never spend money on beta games exactly for the reason something like that (or worse) might happen to any title in development at any point, but I still can't fault poeple for being upset at what CDPR did with HC... especially those players that basically created a blossoming pro and streaming scene around the game... with CDPR's support, I might add.
that was CDPR's mistake.And herein lies the issue. This basically sums up both sides of the argument.
Homecoming has the potential to become a great game, but it won't be like the Gwent of yore.
Might be true. This has less to do with HC and more to do with post Midwinter being a complete mess. As you said earlier, Xavier is highly questionable. Banishing an entire graveyard isn't a mechanic where it's a wait and see approach. A card with such an ability making it past the planning stages is concerning. There are several areas in HC where the same holds true.The game design, not card changes were the problem. I can go in detail about HC having more potential and better design, if you provide any argument to claim beta Gwent was superior.
I hope this whole Gwent thing serves as an eye opener for all the fanboys out there. Yes they are a little different in their commercial and pro-consumer strategies (especially when considering the scum that generally plagues the medium) but CDPR is still looking out for profit in the 1st place, just as any other business.Yes, you're right. I was naive and stupid. Lesson learned:
1) never spend money on beta games,
2) CDPR is not better than other devs.
At the end of the day, it's all about money.
Some ppl leave others come. After big changes WoW was buried as dota/dota2 lol etc and they still exist and say thanks we're fine. Sometimes games are changeing and lot of ppl abbadon them because they don't like the new way and even sometimes games die after terrible changes like DAW3. But i think gwent will evolve or atleast have a chance to do it...guess what... so can we.
what happens if too many of us pull the plug?
That could be done with beta, not with full release.. Not its just Homecoming beta, or Gwent beta 2.. So sadSome ppl leave others come. After big changes WoW was buried as dota/dota2 lol etc and they still exist and say thanks we're fine. Sometimes games are changeing and lot of ppl abbadon them because they don't like the new way and even sometimes games die after terrible changes like DAW3. But i think gwent will evolve or atleast have a chance to do it...
Yeah that was may a poor decision from CDPR. but we'll see.That could be done with beta, not with full release.. Not its just Homecoming beta, or Gwent beta 2.. So sad
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Even after updates/nerf.. It still won't be Gwent, it will be, as said before, only Thronebreaker MP.. I enjoy TB, really, but I want gwent as well, not just multi-player version of it..
1) Never said the moderator was wrong.Firts of all I say it respectfully...
1.) The moderator guy are right.
2.) terms and use...
3.) CDPR is really a generous company... FE: I never seen compensation from the ice strom or from others...
4.) Those ppl don't need defense... they talking about how they feel becose they want some commiseration. Playing the victim is always easier than acknowledgeing our stupidity...
5.) They spent real money for their personal gain... or patroning something etc.. they are grown up man who are able to act... so according to the paperform they know what they do...
For everyone? Careful with such statements. Anyhow, your solution has more consequences than you might have thought off. Take a look at this thread for further discussions on this matter.So why Cd projekt doesn't offer the beta gwent in a minigames at low prices. Comon best solution for everybody.
Let's say the devs create a card like this :Unfortunately, that is irrelevant. It's about the perception of the majority of the players. If they think a certain mechanic or card is OP, or more importantly, not fun to play against, then CDPR has a problem, even when the mechanic or card is balanced (according to the devs).