First I've heard of that. I don't much care for it either. Happy?
Bumping because I never got an answer.
Not our problem if his words come to be lies again. He's promising no exclusives, period. He didn't specify what kind of exclusive, so we better not see any exclusive marketing/advertising for specific platforms or deals on platforms. Can't wait.
My girlfriend and I were thinking this last night because microsoft is windows pc right so maybe give a free for all for them too. But who pays for sony's part, that's right you guessed it, sony does. If some folks had a new mind set about all of this stuff, then people would see that this was just a little extra gift to us witcher fans from microsoft, who will be playing on XB1. So I say thanks microsoft, and perhaps CDPR always wanted to have this stuff come with all of the CE games from the start, but did not have the funds to do so. Or it was a new fresh deal with microsoft's after the fact, But then again who knows.. Because it was a risk, just like the TW3 game we will take risks. CDPR did their math and knew that fans did not judge them in the past for exclusive real world merch in the past with TW1&TW2.
So they took another risk, only to find out what they are finding out now. They wanted to do right and now they got fans like never before, telling them that it was wrong.
This is why they are sad and this is why I have empathy for the whole team @ CDPR. I forgive them 100%, because we all have to take risks in life and we all are going to make mistakes from time to time, but the real leaders in life are the ones that learn from those mistakes and move on.
Hey can I get an AMEN over here
Hey...! Good God, lol..
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No, you can't. It isn't "House Of Glass". It's a completely different comic called "Killing Monsters".
Nvm. Saw later posts.
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I don't know what all the fuzz is about. If the figurine would be exclusive to one platform or if in-game content would be exclusive for one platform, I would understand the uproar, but a map and a deck of cards? Come on, guys!!!! Most important is: the game will be THE SAME for all platforms, no exclusive content for anybody, no day one DLC bullsh*t, no missing story or whatsoever. CDProjekt ALWAYS delivered what they promised: mindblowing, great RPG's and The Wild Hunt is gonna be the BEST RPG EVER!!!!! So give the guys a break, will ya?
P.S.: No, I'm not a dev and they don't pay me for writing this. I'm just a loyal fan who thinks that CDProjekt deserves a bit of thankfulness for their constant delivering of great games.
P.S.: No, I'm not a dev and they don't pay me for writing this. I'm just a loyal fan who thinks that CDProjekt deserves a bit of thankfulness for their constant delivering of great games.
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This is not cool either. Way worse than the cards and map (which in truth I only am a bit annoyed by. It was the way you did it that really irked me), because this is a new Witcher story that apparently won't be available anywhere else.
Man someone did not produce a comic just so it can be amazon pre-order bonus. It will either be free or sold digially, chill out.
Constant delivering? They were founded in 2002 and we've had two games since.
I was really hoping that CDPR wouldn't be doing anything exclusive. I could have sworn that they said they wouldn't, but I did get the feeling that something was going to be special for the Xbox One. Makes me sad, but I am still excited beyond words for my PS4 version!
Oh I know what the most serious issue is here, dont worry, I am against what CDP did, but I was talking in that post only about the deal in general as a product for consumers. Also buying it from ebay is not the same as from CDP, because its still buying the stuff that MS paid for.
Im still surprised they didnt see this whole thing coming, they could've minimized the damage a lot.
@YerMa69
Yes this is indeed caused by the "strategy" you explain, I get that, and its very unlikely CDP would be able to sell this stuff in any other way, as I said in another post, however I miss what you are referring to when you say "Sony was not given the opportunity to do the same deal", who didnt give Sony the opportunity for this? CDP? and if so how do you know?.Plus why do you speak of it as if its CDP's initiative in the first place, like if it was them coming to MS to offer them anything they got for more money and giving them the "opportunity"?
I personally don't think Sony even wanted to do something like this, because why would they? its just another game in their successful platform, and the previous witcher games weren't in PS3 so its not the continuation of anything for PS fans. What I suspect happened, according to my logic and what was written by CDP, is that MS just came out and said, "hey you make something extra for the Xbox One versions, and we'll pay all costs and purchase all items produced, in order to give it to the customers, for the same price, cause we used our money", this also fits with what someone said here i think, that the X1 CE was the one that was selling less.
In any case, my previous post was referring specifically to the deal, and about CDP's expectations, I think they didnt see it coming, all of this hatred, because if you analyze it well, this announcement has several "issues" that got combined into the rage we see now, and many of them could've been avoided, such as not saying "treating gamers equally" or clarifying extremely well it was only regarding the game, even announcing that there would be exclusive physical items in the pre-E3 conference would've reduced the impact tremendously, and there are more strategies as well. So I think they somehow really screwed up and didnt predict all of this.
It's been done plenty of times. It's not that uncommon a practice.
CDPR loved the publicity of this...
"We'll not deliver exclusive content to any of the platforms, nor will we artificially delay release of the game on any of the platforms because somebody's paying us money for that. It's definitely against our values. We are not doing that."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-14-witcher-3-dev-vows-no-exclusive-content-for-any-platform
And then takes money from Microsoft and changes their story to this...
"Don't get me wrong, I do understand that these extra items might be desirable for Witcher fans playing the game on other platforms. However, as we are not offering any platform or retail exclusive DLCs or any other form of gameplay differentiation, we do have to find other ways to support our partners."
Now I'm sure CDPR knew they had to "support" their partner Microsoft. So why talk empty talk of "values"? Why not just admit that they were gonna give the Xbone "exclusive content" back before E3? Why pretend that when Bungie does it (timed exclusives) those are "bad values" and you pretend you are above all that? CDPR is no better (or worse) than EA, Activision, MS, Sony, Bungie, Epic or anybody else in this business. This expected backlash to CDPR's "values" statement is greatly deserved no matter how good the game they produce is... Stop drinking the CDPR kool-aid...except the fact they "dropped the PR ball" and will lose fans (like myself) over this.
Hope those of you not concerned enjoy the Witcher come February. Hope it's a great game too. Those of us bothered by all this will move on to the Order 1886 or something else.
"We'll not deliver exclusive content to any of the platforms, nor will we artificially delay release of the game on any of the platforms because somebody's paying us money for that. It's definitely against our values. We are not doing that."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-14-witcher-3-dev-vows-no-exclusive-content-for-any-platform
And then takes money from Microsoft and changes their story to this...
"Don't get me wrong, I do understand that these extra items might be desirable for Witcher fans playing the game on other platforms. However, as we are not offering any platform or retail exclusive DLCs or any other form of gameplay differentiation, we do have to find other ways to support our partners."
Now I'm sure CDPR knew they had to "support" their partner Microsoft. So why talk empty talk of "values"? Why not just admit that they were gonna give the Xbone "exclusive content" back before E3? Why pretend that when Bungie does it (timed exclusives) those are "bad values" and you pretend you are above all that? CDPR is no better (or worse) than EA, Activision, MS, Sony, Bungie, Epic or anybody else in this business. This expected backlash to CDPR's "values" statement is greatly deserved no matter how good the game they produce is... Stop drinking the CDPR kool-aid...except the fact they "dropped the PR ball" and will lose fans (like myself) over this.
Hope those of you not concerned enjoy the Witcher come February. Hope it's a great game too. Those of us bothered by all this will move on to the Order 1886 or something else.
Yeah he is.. what a bunch of woe is me.. horse crap!
Whatever dude lol..
I could just lie... and be like, FU CDPR! You lied to us all, when you said that TW3 Wild Hunt would have exclusive kinect gameplay only on XB1 @ E3 2013. So now that the kinect is gone, I think the cards and map make up for it.
Because I am so sad that I cannot use my kinect with the game now, and sony has a touch pad, it's just not fair
That is life, I bet I can draw better than some of you that can't draw.
Do you feel cheated? Maybe you can sing better than me, do I care? No and why should you.
i.e. The gift of the PC is: Mods + 3 exclusive music tracks and discounts + better graphics and higher fps if you got the rig for it.
The gift of XB1 is: Cards and cloth
The gift of PS4 is: as of now,1080p and awesome CE stuff
Whatever dude lol..
I could just lie... and be like, FU CDPR! You lied to us all, when you said that TW3 Wild Hunt would have exclusive kinect gameplay only on XB1 @ E3 2013. So now that the kinect is gone, I think the cards and map make up for it.
Because I am so sad that I cannot use my kinect with the game now, and sony has a touch pad, it's just not fair
That is life, I bet I can draw better than some of you that can't draw.
Do you feel cheated? Maybe you can sing better than me, do I care? No and why should you.
i.e. The gift of the PC is: Mods + 3 exclusive music tracks and discounts + better graphics and higher fps if you got the rig for it.
The gift of XB1 is: Cards and cloth
The gift of PS4 is: as of now,1080p and awesome CE stuff
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Mate comparing CD Projekt Red to EA & Activision is a bit of an overstatement if you ask me, do I agree with what they did? Not really, but it is acceptable, it is not as bad as other companies, the game's content itself remains the same, the card game is included ingame where you will get to play it cross platform, the map sure is a nice thing for collectors, but in my opinion the lack of those two items won't even scratch the core experience, the core experience remains the same.
If you want my opinion, don't let such a thing drive you away from the game, buy the game, maybe not the CE if you can't stand the specials that the Xone has, get the regular version, it would be a shame to miss out on such an experience if you ask me.
You really want to switch open world RPG for scripted corridor shooter? Lets hope the Order turns out better then it looks...
Yea that's the worst thing I found in his comment, how about bloodborn and mgs V instead (and witcher for 30$ later)
These defenses for CDPR sound like defending a star athlete when he knocks out his wife because You like that he scores TDs for your fantasy team. I'm not saying CDPR makes bad games. I don't dislike the experience I had playing Witcher 2 now because of this. The games they make are irrelevant to the business practices I'm actually complaining about. I dislike this industry wide. Such as the Tomb Raider exclusive-not-exclusive lies. Which is more insulting to your intelligence...not being able to play the new Tomb Raider for a year or so?....or the "I only said it was an exclusive THIS holiday...not like forever...."??? I believe its this kind of bs that is tainting the entire industry and a reason why games sales are down. That's what happened with the Xbone revolt. Gamers felt lied to by MS and felt like Sony was talking straight. But like I said before, I really don't understand all the hate for the EAs and Activisions. As I pointed out CDPR does the same things they do and gets a pass from most here just cause they like the game a lot.
And sure I may play the game someday. But CDPR just lost my full $150 support. I just wanted to voice that on their forums hoping to get an "exclusive" for the PC, PS4 crowd....like that coffee mug or a t-shirt maybe. But I got plenty else to play in the meantime. Doesn't matter to me if I play a $9.99 two year old GOTY retail copy w/ free DLC since I can't get the full collectors edition. But I hope the rest of you enjoy and hope its a good game.
And sure I may play the game someday. But CDPR just lost my full $150 support. I just wanted to voice that on their forums hoping to get an "exclusive" for the PC, PS4 crowd....like that coffee mug or a t-shirt maybe. But I got plenty else to play in the meantime. Doesn't matter to me if I play a $9.99 two year old GOTY retail copy w/ free DLC since I can't get the full collectors edition. But I hope the rest of you enjoy and hope its a good game.
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