Are game patches cumulative?

[dejavu619]

Are game patches cumulative?

If I have an unpatched game and wish to reach patch 1.10 do I directly download it or download the other patches first? In case the patches are cumulative, will a person moving from patch 1.08 to 1.10 also have to download 10 GB like a person moving from 1.01 to 1.10?

 

[SigilFey]

The patch process is cumulative. Simply download and install the game and whatever DLC's you wish and the game will automatically patch itself to the latest version.

EDIT: Oh, you're probably on GOG. For the sake of The Great Pumpkin...be clear!

The GOG installer will tell you if the incorrect version is installed when you try to manually apply a patch. Just download the patches in reverse order, as needed, then apply them in order. (This way, it will keep you from downloading stuff you don't need to.)

Example:

I download and install Whatever the Game v1.0. Latest version is v1.09. There are 9 patches.

I download v1.09 and try to install. No good.
I download v1.08 and install. No good.
I download v1.07. It works!
Now install v1.08 followed by v1.09. Fin.

 

[dejavu619]

The patch process is cumulative. Simply download and install the game and whatever DLC's you wish and the game will automatically patch itself to the latest version.

Oh... so no matter how patched your game is the 10 GB data for v1.10 must be downloaded?

 

[SigilFey]

See my edit, that should be clearer. And "No" is the answer to your question. GOG has the advantage of manual patching, so you can actually patch to whatever version you want and stop. Steam forces every installation to the latest version. TW3 1.10 is quite buggy in the gameplay department, so you have the option of rolling back to 1.08 for more functional quests and enemies. But 1.08 has baaaaaad pop-in issues.

You can choose your issues through GOG.

 

[dejavu619]

See my edit, that should be clearer. And "No" is the answer to your question. GOG has the advantage of manual patching, so you can actually patch to whatever version you want and stop. Steam forces every installation to the latest version. TW3 1.10 is quite buggy in the gameplay department, so you have the option of rolling back to 1.08 for more functional quests and enemies. But 1.08 has baaaaaad pop-in issues.

You can choose your issues through GOG.

Great, thanks... What patch do you suggest I stay on? Like you said, both 1.10 and 1.08 have issues...

 

[SigilFey]

Up to you. Your choices are:

1.08.4 -- Pretty severe pop-in of NPCs and buildings (possibly the worst it's ever been). Some quest bugs make progress problematic if they appear. Generally stable FPS. Can't use the most recent DLC. New Game+ is very issue-prone. Terrible stuttering that cannot seem to be rectified for some users. Some inventory issues reported. Most mods will work, though this will likely change as they are updated.

1.10 -- Additional DLC. Pop-in appears completely fixed, and graphics have been given a spit shine. Certain quest bugs fixed...new quest bugs introduced (including a few game-breakers, apparently.) Major FPS issues for some users, massive improvement for others. A new, -1 HP enemy bug that can make progress impossible as these enemies are invincible and non-interactive. Few mods will work for now.

 

[dejavu619]

Up to you. Your choices are:

1.08.4 -- Pretty severe pop-in of NPCs and buildings (possibly the worst it's ever been). Some quest bugs make progress problematic if they appear. Generally stable FPS. Can't use the most recent DLC. New Game+ is very issue-prone. Terrible stuttering that cannot seem to be rectified for some users. Some inventory issues reported. Most mods will work, though this will likely change as they are updated.

1.10 -- Additional DLC. Pop-in appears completely fixed, and graphics have been given a spit shine. Certain quest bugs fixed...new quest bugs introduced (including a few game-breakers, apparently.) Major FPS issues for some users, massive improvement for others. A new, -1 HP enemy bug that can make progress impossible as these enemies are invincible and non-interactive. Few mods will work for now.

Darn ! Do you suggest sticking to v1.07 till a better patch comes out? A better patch *is* gonna come out sooner or later, right? Or is there something I don't know? Hopefully 1.10 isn't the final patch...

 

[RageGT]

Huh.. I play with GOG Galaxy, 1.10 and HoS installed and haven't found any gamebreaking issues. Sure, there's a crystal missing but a careful drop to a cave exit let us loot the diagrams the crystal would open a portal to and there's the mane missing on Black Roach if HoS is installed while it is ok on Brown Roach and Geralt switches between them depending which region he's at. But overall performance has improved for me, lots of issues have been fixed - check the 1.10 change log and take your time to read 14 pages of listed fixes - (with the right NVidia drivers i/o the latest and a few tweaks as per the Sticky PC performance guide right here in the forum).

PS.: AFAIK, most of issues mentioned as possible gamebreaking occur only in NG+ DLC's and I think they already have been fixed by an update in the DLC available from GOG Galaxy as well.

 

[SigilFey]

Darn ! Do you suggest sticking to v1.07 till a better patch comes out? A better patch *is* gonna come out sooner or later, right? Or is there something I don't know? Hopefully 1.10 isn't the final patch...

Personally, I would go with the latest version. It can be wonky, but everything seems quite playable here. I was mentioning worst-case scenarios. (Let me put it this way: I've finished the game twice.) And, yes, there will be another series of patches, most likely.

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Huh.. I play with GOG Galaxy, 1.10 and HoS installed and haven't found any gamebreaking issues. Sure, there's a crystal missing but a careful drop to a cave exit let us loot the diagrams the crystal would open a portal to and there's the mane missing on Black Roach if HoS is installed while it is ok on Brown Roach and Geralt switches between them depending which region he's at. But overall performance has improved for me, lots of issues have been fixed - check the 1.10 change log and take your time to read 14 pages of listed fixes - (with the right NVidia drivers i/o the latest and a few tweaks as per the Sticky PC performance guide right here in the forum).

PS.: AFAIK, most of issues mentioned as possible gamebreaking occur only in NG+ DLC's and I think they already have been fixed by an update in the DLC available from GOG Galaxy as well.

Yes, my gameplay is pretty much bug-free as well, and always has been. Others have experienced nothing but game-breaking bugs since release. If 100 issues are resolved for some systems, other systems will continue experiencing them plus 100 new issues. The game still has a long way to go before its bugs and performance are sorted for everyone.

Point in case -- the 353.30 drivers still give me the best overall performance to this day. Other people report horrific stuttering. I need to use the 355.82 drivers, however, or I get regular crashing with Mad Max -- which runs flawlessly for pretty much everyone else. 355.82 is said to create massive FPS issues for other 980 ti users. Perfectly smooth here. And on and on it goes... It's all a matter of your particular hardware on your particular system with your particular configuration.

 

[dejavu619]

Personally, I would go with the latest version. It can be wonky, but everything seems quite playable here. I was mentioning worst-case scenarios. (Let me put it this way: I've finished the game twice.) And, yes, there will be another series of patches, most likely.

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Yes, my gameplay is pretty much bug-free as well, and always has been. Others have experienced nothing but game-breaking bugs since release. If 100 issues are resolved for some systems, other systems will continue experiencing them plus 100 new issues. The game still has a long way to go before its bugs and performance are sorted for everyone.

Point in case -- the 353.30 drivers still give me the best overall performance to this day. Other people report horrific stuttering. I need to use the 355.82 drivers, however, or I get regular crashing with Mad Max -- which runs flawlessly for pretty much everyone else. 355.82 is said to create massive FPS issues for other 980 ti users. Perfectly smooth here. And on and on it goes... It's all a matter of your particular hardware on your particular system with your particular configuration.

Hey, I just wanted to ask if I should install the DLC (523 MB) first or the 1.10 patch (10 GB) first? The confusion is because the patch notes for 1.10 mention some DLC related bugs which have been fixed. So this would mean that DLC is to be installed BEFORE patch 1.10 but the DLCs were released in phases so suppose a DLC is released after patch 1.07, it'll be relying on 1.07 to already be installed but if I install all DLCs first, I'm basically installing them to an unpatched game (apart from day one patch) which I'm not sure is the correct way to do it?

Also is patch 1.11 only for people who bought Hearts of Stone Expansion? If not, then that would mean I can install it before I install HoS expansion, right? But if I do that, won't the bugs/errors related to HoS go unpatched?

Please tell me what to do... I uninstalled the game because I was facing a bug and I'm confused as to the order in which I should install various components...

 

[SigilFey]

You should just download everything available and install in order. I recommend against using Galaxy -- it's not necessary and creates a lot of issues with the game. If you download and try to install something that you can't use, the installer will inform you that you're using the wrong version of the game.

Patch 1.11 is universal, not just for Hearts of Stone.


EDIT: To do the above, log into GOG through your browser, download all of the files (game, patches, and DLC). Put them all in the same folder. Right click in the folder and select "Sort-->By type". This will arrange the files in the order you need to install. Just run them one at a time, from top to bottom.

GOG uses a very logical and simple decimal interval system that keeps all of their files neat and tidy, but looking at so many decimal points seems to overwhelm people, for some reason. You can always simply rename the files to include version numbers if you wish.

 

[dejavu619]

You should just download everything available and install in order. I recommend against using Galaxy -- it's not necessary and creates a lot of issues with the game. If you download and try to install something that you can't use, the installer will inform you that you're using the wrong version of the game.

Patch 1.11 is universal, not just for Hearts of Stone.

But suppose I install patch 1.11 now and Hearts of Stone later, won't that be a problem? Because 1.11 is responsible for fixing a couple of issues in HoS...

 

[SigilFey]

But suppose I install patch 1.11 now and Hearts of Stone later, won't that be a problem? Because 1.11 is responsible for fixing a couple of issues in HoS...

See my edit above, if you haven't.

Should be irrelevant. The core installation of Hearts of Stone should now be updated with the changes introduced by v1.11. If not, it should automatically search for and install the more recent v1.11 files on your system, or let you know to re-install v1.11. Either way, you can install it in any order.

If it does seem like things are wonky, for whatever reason, just run the patch again after installing HoS.

 

[dejavu619]

See my edit above, if you haven't.

Should be irrelevant. The core installation of Hearts of Stone should now be updated with the changes introduced by v1.11. If not, it should automatically search for and install the more recent v1.11 files on your system, or let you know to re-install v1.11. Either way, you can install it in any order.

If it does seem like things are wonky, for whatever reason, just run the patch again after installing HoS.

I had an issue with a DLC quest when I was on version 1.10 and I had heard that patch 1.11 fixed the problem. Now I had two options:

1. Download this patch: -- link removed --
2. Download the new DLC files from GOG

I did the first and it didn't resolve the issue although it updated my game from 1.10 to 1.11. So I followed the 2nd option and then the quest issue was resolved. So I guess DLCs need to be patched separately and the normal patch only fixes the base game and does not address DLC bugs.

 

[SigilFey]

Not sure what gamepressure.com is. Everything you need for the game you can get directly through GOG.

Seems like the first one could be a community patch. All good, usually, but no guarantees. (And I don't speak whatever language that patch is in.)

 

[dragonbird]

While gamepressure is a well-known site, they aren't the official source for patches, so there is absolutely NO guarantee that what you're getting there is up-to-date. Looking at the list of patches, some at least appear to have mods included, which means they didn't originate from CDPR, so downloading them is risky to say the least.

If you're not running the Steam version, you should be downloading from Gog, either direct or through Galaxy. The Steam version should, of course, come from Steam.

I believe that Origin also provides updates, for customers who got the game through there.

As others have pointed out, if you download direct from Gog, the game, DLC and, where relevant, HoS updates are in separate files and all need to be downloaded and installed. I'm not sure if it matters, but I'd recommend running the game patch install first.

 

[jonesmalaco]

So is there any way to roll back patches? I'm on GOG version...

I was on patch 1.08.04, and everything was working smooth. Had VERY few problems and crashes... After 1.10 (and 1.11), script mods doesn't work anymore ('cause CDPR changed the scripts completely, not sure why... Maybe because of "Hearts of Stone", but I'm not sure). I won't be updating it anymore until all these are solved. As I'm aware CDPR won't change back the scripts (probably impossible), I guess I'll have to wait for the mod authors to update their mods to work with current game versions.

'Till then, I'll roll back to 1.08.04. Is it possible? If not (if I have to completely reinstall the game), I want to know which is the shortest patching order for me to get to 1.08.04, PLEASE?!?!

 

[dragonbird]

If you wish to discuss the impact of mods, please check the modding subforum. There are discussions in there already on this issue.

 

[SigilFey]

So is there any way to roll back patches? I'm on GOG version...I want to know which is the shortest patching order for me to get to 1.08.04, PLEASE?!?!

To roll back you need to re-install and patch only up to the version you want. There is no way to "undo" a patch, as far as I know.

 

[dejavu619]

So is there any way to roll back patches? I'm on GOG version...

I was on patch 1.08.04, and everything was working smooth. Had VERY few problems and crashes... After 1.10 (and 1.11), script mods doesn't work anymore ('cause CDPR changed the scripts completely, not sure why... Maybe because of "Hearts of Stone", but I'm not sure). I won't be updating it anymore until all these are solved. As I'm aware CDPR won't change back the scripts (probably impossible), I guess I'll have to wait for the mod authors to update their mods to work with current game versions.

'Till then, I'll roll back to 1.08.04. Is it possible? If not (if I have to completely reinstall the game), I want to know which is the shortest patching order for me to get to 1.08.04, PLEASE?!?!

To roll back you need to re-install and patch only up to the version you want. There is no way to "undo" a patch, as far as I know.

I thought GOG now allows you to rollback?

Source: http://www.gog.com/news/gog_galaxy_first_major_update_available_now