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adarb

Senior user
#221
Aug 17, 2008
I have a Core 2 Duo, XP Pro, 4 GB of Ram, Geforce 9800 GTX..But if I run the game with everything on highest it doesn't run smooth.. and if I'm in thge Swamp it barely moves at all..I have to lower the graphics quality to low in order for it to run smooth.. how come !?Thanks.
 
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xuereb

Senior user
#222
Aug 17, 2008
I was thinking about this. Even though I don't have a high end machine, in Act III, in the Trade Quarter, it really slows down during the day, must be because of all those NPCs.The swamp is OK though.But yes I've been thinking about this.
 
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adarb

Senior user
#223
Aug 17, 2008
xuerebx said:
I was thinking about this. Even though I don't have a high end machine, in Act III, in the Trade Quarter, it really slows down during the day, must be because of all those NPCs.The swamp is OK though.But yes I've been thinking about this.
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Well I do have a high-end machine.. Crysis runs fine on Very High for me !The sceneries in this game don't contain much and the NPC's should not even tickle my hardware.. :wall:
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#224
Aug 17, 2008
read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report here as instructeddefrag, update all drivers and Windows, make the swapfile 4096Mb, what game settings ?
 
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adarb

Senior user
#225
Aug 18, 2008
LicaonKter said:
read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report here as instructeddefrag, update all drivers and Windows, make the swapfile 4096Mb, what game settings ?
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What do you mean by "make the swapfile 4096Mb"?, I can't play the game on the highest setting with it to run smooth.. in the Swamp I need to have the lowest settings actually.I couldn't find a way to have a quick summary with PC Wizard, only to have each category very detailed.. so I added a dxdiag instead, should contain the same.Thanks ! :D
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#226
Aug 18, 2008
adarb said:
What do you mean by "make the swapfile 4096Mb"?
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My computer -> properties -> Advanced ( or something ) -> Page File size Minimum 4096 / Maximum 4096 -> OK -> OK
adarb said:
I couldn't find a way to have a quick summary with PC Wizard, only to have each category very detailed..
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that's the idea actually, do post the detailed log, as instructed ;)
 
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adarb

Senior user
#227
Aug 18, 2008
My computer -> properties -> Advanced ( or something ) -> Page File size Minimum 4096 / Maximum 4096 -> OK -> OK
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You mean Virtual Memmory?
that's the idea actually, do post the detailed log, as instructed ;)
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I mean, each category is in a different file.. I can't get a summary of them all in 1, won't let me.
 
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xuereb

Senior user
#228
Aug 18, 2008
Yes the virtual memory mate.
 
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adarb

Senior user
#229
Aug 19, 2008
xuerebx said:
Yes the virtual memory mate.
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Already at the max :-\
 
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bad213boy

Senior user
#230
Aug 19, 2008
First thing you should do is set you virtual memory to 1.5 your RAM. If you have 4 gig, thats technically 4092 MB. You should put 6138 MB or let windows configure it for you. Windows does a damn good job allocating vitual memory. Here's a nifty little windows xp optimization guide. This guy's spent many years testing different configurations to optimize windows. Here is the link.http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks1.htmFollow this guys recommendations and you definitely notice an improvement. Your next step is to overclock your grahpics card. You can use nTune by Nvidia or Rivatuner. You can usually find these downloads at www.guru3d.com. I'm not sure if your g-card comes with a shader frequency to adjust like the lastest g-cards. If it doesn't, you'll want to search the web for your cards core delta (between 40 to 50). This means that no matter how high you overclock the core on your g-card, you may not notice any improvement after a certain number. There is a hidden optimized setting that will give you the greatest performance boost. For example, I owned a 7800GS card. Default settings were like 400MHz/1350MHz. I could overclock the card to 540MHz/1450Mhz, but the card had a delta 40MHz. Which means it needed an extra 40MHz available to use for the shader frequency. So by overclocking my card to 500MHz/1450MHz, I was able to utilize the cards full capabilities.If this still doesn't help, try overclocking your computer. I recommend going to xtremesystems and search for you mobo there and find out what kind of overclocking you can do on it. Make sure you definitely read up on this before tinkering around with your stuff.You can also try downloading Tuneup Utilities 2008 from download.com. They give you a 30 day trial period. It will optimize your computer, registry, and internet connections for you.Another thing you should do is make sure all your drivers are up to date. Things like Adobe Flash, Adobe Air, Adobe Shockwave, and Microsofts Silverlight are also important. Uninstall your old Frameworks drivers and install the new 3.5 version. It the 3.5 version includes everththing that's needed.The game runs perfect for me, however I have the new Geforce 260 card and the XFX 790i with a Q6700 processor. I'm also running my computer at default settings.CPUCore Speed: 1600MHzMultiplier: x6Bus Speed: 267MHzRated FSB: 1067MHzMemoryDRAM Frequency: 667MHzFSB:DRAM: 4:10CL: 9tRCD: 9tRP: 9tRAS: 24tRC: 34CR: 1T
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#231
Aug 19, 2008
Bad213Boy said:
First thing you should do is set you virtual memory to 1.5 your RAM. If you have 4 gig, thats technically 4092 MB. You should put 6138 MB or let windows configure it for you. Windows does a damn good job allocating vitual memory.
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the 1.5Gb thingie is a myth, Windows does not work it out so nicely either, a fixed swapfile size gets you a free from fragmentation swapfile ( usually )also, cause The Wither uses only 1.5gb more of ram makes the swapfile useless, but Windows decides stupidly to allocate it anyway...this is a long discussion, that has be rehashed so many times :(
 
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adarb

Senior user
#232
Aug 19, 2008
Thank for the very long and invested post..However, it's really not reasonable.. ???I have a high end PC with a high end graphics card (9800 GTX) and you're telling me I should overclock it?It's extremely not recommended to overclock a graphics card, they tend to get ruined quickly.. besides, why would one want to overclock a high end graphics card that the game should not even bother it even a bit, that card runs Crysis on very high without sweating.About overclocking the computer, there is not way to overclock Intel computer parts.. also, the computer is surely strong enough to run such a game without overclocking it..Those are not reasonable options..
 
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nbio

Senior user
#233
Aug 22, 2008
Hi,my english is bad but,i will try...The main problem with The Witcher on faster systems and quality settings at the maximum is, the "FPS Drop",i think. I can play Crysis at High settings @ 1280x1024 very smooth.But i have only 52 FPS as maximum and 32 FPS as minimum.In The Witcher i have over a 100 fps as maximum and 37 FPS as minimum.(Outdoor)I´am looking to south,less objects,there are over a 100 FPS.Then i turn the mouse and i´am looking to north,more objects,it drops down to 37 FPS.And it feels like a lag.You can set the graphics to the maximum,but there´s one setting you should set to medium.Range of Vision.And it should be ok. If there would be a Frame Limiter,this problem could be solved. :)
 
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bad213boy

Senior user
#234
Aug 22, 2008
LicaonKter said:
LicaonKter said:
First thing you should do is set you virtual memory to 1.5 your RAM. If you have 4 gig, thats technically 4092 MB. You should put 6138 MB or let windows configure it for you. Windows does a damn good job allocating vitual memory.
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the 1.5Gb thingie is a myth, Windows does not work it out so nicely either, a fixed swapfile size gets you a free from fragmentation swapfile ( usually )also, cause The Wither uses only 1.5gb more of ram makes the swapfile useless, but Windows decides stupidly to allocate it anyway...this is a long discussion, that has be rehashed so many times :(
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Everything uses virutal mem, everything. Once mroe RAM is needed, it spills into VMem. Every where you look for optimizing Windows XP you'll find the recommended Vmem is x1.5 your RAM, thats fact. I'm only using 2gig of RAM, a quad processor, and virual mem 1.5 x my RAM. I have absolutely no problems running any part of this game.
 
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bad213boy

Senior user
#235
Aug 22, 2008
adarb said:
Thank for the very long and invested post..However, it's really not reasonable.. ???I have a high end PC with a high end graphics card (9800 GTX) and you're telling me I should overclock it?It's extremely not recommended to overclock a graphics card, they tend to get ruined quickly.. besides, why would one want to overclock a high end graphics card that the game should not even bother it even a bit, that card runs Crysis on very high without sweating.About overclocking the computer, there is not way to overclock Intel computer parts.. also, the computer is surely strong enough to run such a game without overclocking it..Those are not reasonable options..
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That 9800 GTX is kinda out of date now. Also, why are you using Nvidia when your mobo is an Intel? Your northbridge chip is compatible with ATI, not Nvidia. That could be one reason why you're getting crappy results. You should be using ATI for the cheap crossfire technology.I'm running the 260 series and have no problem. The only thing that runs faster than the 200 series are the 2 in 1 cards. Remember, it also amounts to how much FSB you have. If your FSB is lower than mine, you should look to overclock it. If its close, you should definitely look to overclocking your vid card then. You can find out your FSB by downloading CPU-Z, detail info on your entire computer.Your card is excellent for overclocking. You can't ruin a video card buddy. It's really hard. Most programs that allow you to overclock the card by running a sample test to see if it will run at that speed first, thus not ruining your card. It's not going to allow you to run a speed that will ruin the card. You'll just want to make sure your temps never go over 70 degrees fahrenheit (it maybe higher now - I havne't done much testing on the new gpu's). You can either use nTunes from Nvidia or Rivatuner, both will show you temps. Run a game and minimize back to your desktop and find out the temps. Thats finding the load temp, otherwise sitting on your desktop is called idle load. Going over 70 wont kill the card either, as long as you don't run it for more than a few minutes. Do a simple google of your card and find out the best speeds. Then you can play around with the speed using 5MHz incraments. Almost everything built now is made to be overclocked.As far as your Intel, you need to do some serious research on your mobo and processer, even Intel Pentium 4's (Which is worse than a Athlon 64). EVERY computer can be overclocked. I have an old Athlon 64 3400+ that overclocked from 2.4 to 3.0. Let me tell you, it was a major pain because my memory and PCI bandwidths were locked and couldn't be adjusted individually. As long as the processor is cooled, overclocking everything is simple, just dont go over 70 degree. You just need to find the right program to that with. Try googling Xtremesystems, they help you.The hardest game to play right now is Crysis. However, it is first person view. I bet if you played The Witcher in first person, you wont have as many problems. In The Witcher outside views, you see more, there's more animation, textures, shaders, shadows, water, etc... It requires more RAM from your video card, which is another good reason to overclock your vid card to render and process. Increasing the bandwidth (overclocking) will help. 512MB isn't gonna cut it anymore unless you have the new ATI DDR5 video cards.
 
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lordofskulls

Senior user
#236
Aug 22, 2008
Okay hey guys first post here... REALLY want to try this game out... and play it ;)I was wondering what laptop would i have to buy to be able to run The Witcher?While I know... what proccessor, and how much ram and all that stuff3GB of Ram and 2.0 Duo at least should be enough...I was wondering which graphic cards that are for Laptops will be able to run Witcher at... Low-Medium... I dont mind visuals being low and stuff like that as long as i be able to play the game.... (i play video games mostly for story and violence + sexuality is a +)So i was wondering what Laptop's Graphic cards would support it mostly? please answer as soon as possible since i be making purchas very soon so i know what to look for ^_^ thank you...PS-- dont just name the top laptop graphic card but let me know the lowest graphic cards also ;) thank you
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#237
Aug 22, 2008
nVidia 7600 or better ( meaning 8600 or 9600 or even possibly 9500 )
 
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lordofskulls

Senior user
#238
Aug 22, 2008
o_O apparently my topic got moved... but I need version... not graphic card i am talking aboutfor example:Nvidia Geforce Go7150MI need it in that kind of type so i know exactly what graphic card i need on the laptop.....just a list of stuff like...Low setting Graphic cards, Medium, and High....So i can decied which fits best with my budget and i might find good laptop for not alot of money with perfect medium card... ;) i be waiting for replay ;)
 
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billyo_72

Senior user
#239
Aug 22, 2008
Just awaiting a new computer to turn up, will be wanting to play the Witcher...will this spec be able to cope? Processor Intel Centrino 2® Core™ 2 Duo (P7350 - 2.0 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 3MB) Screen 15.4" (Superclear gloss LCD TFT 1280 X 800 WXGA+) Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium Edition RAM HIGH (4096MB 4GB) Hard Drive 250GB Optical Drive DVD Rewriter (Records DVDs 8x & CDs 24x & Dual Layer Super Multi) Graphics Dedicated (NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GS with 256MB MemoryThankyou in advanceG
 
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blakafrika

Senior user
#240
Aug 22, 2008
billyo72 said:
Just awaiting a new computer to turn up, will be wanting to play the Witcher...will this spec be able to cope? Processor Intel Centrino 2® Core™ 2 Duo (P7350 - 2.0 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 3MB) Screen 15.4" (Superclear gloss LCD TFT 1280 X 800 WXGA+) Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium Edition RAM HIGH (4096MB 4GB) Hard Drive 250GB Optical Drive DVD Rewriter (Records DVDs 8x & CDs 24x & Dual Layer Super Multi) Graphics Dedicated (NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GS with 256MB MemoryThankyou in advanceG
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It should run it pretty easy to say the least. Personnaly I'd get a bigger hard-drive but that's because of the amount of stuff I've got. Right now I've got two Hdd's One 750Gig and the others 150Gig. Little envious to be honest!!! ;)
 
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