Asking a question about performance of the game in my PC

[rushnurd]

I finally installed the Witcher again after a long time and patched it up to 1.5 and the directors cut.I remember when I first played it I had a Pentium4 and a nVidia egs8400(256mb), it wasn't pretty.But now with my OC'd E6600 c2d and OC'd GTX280, I couldn't wait to see how much it improved! I'm disappointed. Yes i've read that cut scenes lag more then they should and everything, but this is embarrassing. I'm running the game on high, with AA being the only varible, AA doesn't usually effect too many games I own at all (except crysis, which is exactly how this game runs).Also I know game is a hog, but my GPU temps never go past 55c while playing the game (even with wow they will at least be 60-ish, crysis obviously maxes it) is this because there isn't enough going on to tax it that high? Seems strange to me, because the way it runs you would think it would be pushing my GPU, but it really feels like it isn't. I avg 30-70fps ingame (29-39 in complex scenes) and at worst 14-20fps in movies. Out my dual channeled 4gb of DRR2 800 ram, on 1.4Gb is being used by system before I start up the game.My computer runs Crysis at nearly max everything like it runs Witcher, so I think something HAS to be very wrong here. The game plays fine, it just feels like it's not fully taking advance of my hardware. Do you guys think the games overall engine and code are to blame for the "hoggy" performance?Any feedback will be most helpful Windows 7 64-bit (fully updated, defraged)Specs below:http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=25968

 

[Licaon_Kter]

hum thx, i didn't knew about the engine optimisation as i played neither of the NWN, it's a least one less lead i have to follow but what puzzle me, if the engine really can't use 2 GPU, how does my friend manage to make his SLI configuration do it ? I'm positive about the fact both his GPU were used nearly to their max with an average usage of 85% each, i checked myself with everest. is it forced by the driver itself in this case ?

i can only guess: better nVidia driverscan you change the rendering type?

DisadvantagesIf an OpenGL game does not have a CrossFire profile, the Catalyst AI system will set the rendering mode to Scissor by default, with no way to change it to a more suitable or faster mode, such as AFR. However, SLI allows the rendering mode to be set for each application manually, even for games which do not have an existing profile. It should be noted that setting Catalyst AI to 'Advanced' allows manual mode setting for Direct 3D games, but not OpenGL games, to AFR.

But now with my OC'd E6600 c2d and OC'd GTX280...Do you guys think the games overall engine and code are to blame for the "hoggy" performance?

first thing, you need to be logged in there to see your profile...that link is useless, read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed the game uses the Aurora engine ( made back in 2001 for Neverwinter Nights 1 ) with a DirectX9 renderer and it's not multicore/gpu awarewhat resolution ?

 

[rushnurd]

I just updated my nVida drivers to the latest Win7 patch. As is well there.My res is 1650X1050, sorry for the link. I included the absurdly lengthy Wizard report in the attachment. Have fun with that :'("it's not multicore/gpu aware" What a shame it would likely be much smoother if it could use two cores. But was do you mean not GPU aware? As in it doesn't use GPU acceleration to the most benefit?

 

[Licaon_Kter]

"it's not multicore/gpu aware" What a shame it would likely be much smoother if it could use two cores. But was do you mean not GPU aware? As in it doesn't use GPU acceleration to the most benefit?

you misunderstoodmulticpu / multigpu aware, as in does not know how to use them efficiently. using threads and such, it will work, but it will use only one CPU core, one GPU core...etc...given that Crossfire(X) and SLI have a tendency to depend on driver optimizations things get complicated... and not speedieralso read the PCWizard instructions again, i want a full report not just the Video section

 

[Licaon_Kter]

Hey all. Cutscenes are glitchy. This is my info through dxdiag. Card name: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series

this video card is below system requirements, that's the problemread: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed

 

[danielsupernova]

Unfourtanetelly,The Witcher IS TOO DEPENDENT of the clock of the CPU.So if you not overclock (i won´t), the problems of perfomance persists.It is ashame,since even the much less known Timeshift is optimized to dual core!

hum thx, i didn't knew about the engine optimisation as i played neither of the NWN, it's a least one less lead i have to follow but what puzzle me, if the engine really can't use 2 GPU, how does my friend manage to make his SLI configuration do it ? I'm positive about the fact both his GPU were used nearly to their max with an average usage of 85% each, i checked myself with everest. is it forced by the driver itself in this case ?

i can only guess: better nVidia driverscan you change the rendering type?

DisadvantagesIf an OpenGL game does not have a CrossFire profile, the Catalyst AI system will set the rendering mode to Scissor by default, with no way to change it to a more suitable or faster mode, such as AFR. However, SLI allows the rendering mode to be set for each application manually, even for games which do not have an existing profile. It should be noted that setting Catalyst AI to 'Advanced' allows manual mode setting for Direct 3D games, but not OpenGL games, to AFR.

But now with my OC'd E6600 c2d and OC'd GTX280...Do you guys think the games overall engine and code are to blame for the "hoggy" performance?

first thing, you need to be logged in there to see your profile...that link is useless, read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed the game uses the Aurora engine ( made back in 2001 for Neverwinter Nights 1 ) with a DirectX9 renderer and it's not multicore/gpu awarewhat resolution ?

 

[Licaon_Kter]

Unfourtanetelly,The Witcher IS TOO DEPENDENT of the clock of the CPU.So if you not overclock (i won´t), the problems of perfomance persists.It is ashame,since even the much less known Timeshift is optimized to dual core!

it has a newer engine, back in 2001 a dual core system was rare

 

[56236]

I CANNOT believe that I have to finally post in a In-game Tech section with a problem. I guess my time has come.I hope this is the right thread... :whatthe:Okay, my Problem: The Witcher PC game, updated to... well, everything to latest on Enhanced & also with Texturen Mod & my own Black Edition Mod, needs a good systemto run smoothly and efficiently. But, now my system runs perfectly on Hi-res (max settings & screen res), but when I turn down to Low/Medium res & settings... here's it is:

• The game sometimes crashes upon applying new settings or exiting menu.
• Pixel ration of the game is seen super-sized which more than blurs game-play
• Geralt and NPC's fall through the ground, I think center-points are moved and it's just what I see.
• Colors are mis-matched and almost like a rainbow, only muddy.

The above is nothing to joke about as sometimes RAM can overload and I like to revert my settings for faster game-play, but am stuck on High.So, here's the Performance specs of the new PC I tried the game on. It works fine on a laptop, but the new PC is a different matter as shown above...

• CPU - Intel® CoreTM i7 975 3.33GHz (8MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
• OS - Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-Bit (Wondering, is this another thread :hmmm
• Video Card - Dual 1.8GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260 192 Core1 - SLI® Enabled
• Memory - 6GB and 12GB Triple-Channel 1600MHz DDR3
• Cooling - AlienwareTM High-Performance Liquid Cooling

I hope that's enough information. If not, I'll gladly edit & add more...Like I said, the game works fine on Highest of High settings and I'm even Over-clocking to ensure Max performance, but it's not enough. :wall:How do I play the game on normal settings or is this just the trick of the trade forcing people to constantly update & upgrade to meet the markets demand? ???

 

[Licaon_Kter]

• The game sometimes crashes upon applying new settings or exiting menu.
• Pixel ration of the game is seen super-sized which more than blurs game-play
• Geralt and NPC's fall through the ground, I think center-points are moved and it's just what I see.
• Colors are mis-matched and almost like a rainbow, only muddy.

read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed do attach the file ERRLOG.TXT from The Witcher/System folder ( if the game crashed )

 

[56236]

read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed do attach the file ERRLOG.TXT from The Witcher/System folder ( if the game crashed )

No need. Problem solved... {Solution} for all Lower Settings errors received...Solutions pertaining to my specific problem (And tested on 2 machines to check settings with or without Options stated) :...

• If computer has an Overclocking Chipset ... switch it off.
• If computer is Overclocking without Chipset... install one.
• If computer is not Overclocking... time you get to know it.

This may seem like a never-ending loop, but the problem surrounds the over-lapping files when RAM reads them multiple times to save temps for faster use.It's almost like Ready-Boost for RAM, but a bit more direct. So, I did Option 1 and the computer is still Overclocking without the Automatic options of the Chip.Hope this helps anyone experiencing this... Thanks again... eace:

 

[gutted666]

I'm nearing the end of the prologue, and having a few issues.The game 'seems' to run fine while going around and fighting etc.But during some cutscenes... the video will hang at times. The sound is still going, but the video starts to stutter and hang. After the cutscene is finally over with, I'm usually greeted with some horrible texture problems. Sometimes, it's like im looking at the actual texture image in memory. Other times it just strange textures overlay on my screen. I have to exit the game at this point.As i said though, it seems to work just fine running around the keep etc. but on some cutscenes this problem starts happening. At start of Act I, i cant get through the long cutscene without a problem.My graphics card is only a few months old, so it can't be a dying graphics card. I dont have this issue while playing Dragon Age.my specs:Windows XP 32 bitAsus Crosshair MoboAMD 4800+ dual core (AM2)nVidia GeForce GTS 250 (1GB RAM) - latest drivers ARE installed.2GB System RamUsing the crosshair's onboard sound, as its actually pretty good.My witcher game is the original release (i packed it away when i first bought it because my PC couldn't handle it at the time).I patched it up to 1.4 with the EE update. Then patched it to 1.5,Then added the Director's Cut./LE:the 8500GT in all these threads is just a coincidence.I'm having the exact same problem and i have a GTS 250 with 1GB ram. i'm starting to suspect its a sound problem (beause it happens during converations).. more specifically an onboard sound issue. I can play the game just fine at ridiculous high settings, but when i go in a conversation it starts stuttering and hanging when people speak. After i finally fumble my way through the cutscene.. the textures are porked.i'm currently reinstalling and patching, and if that doesn't fix my problem.. i will first turn down sound acceleration in wondows.. and if still problems i will disable my onboard sound and install my old audigy 2 zs platinum.will report on my findings later on./LE:think i solved my problem.onboard sound was the culprit. Disabled it and installed my old Audigy 2 zs soundcard and not having the problem anymore.after combing through this thread with people who had similar problems, i started to see a trend that they all had onboard sound (like me):http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=4725.0ironically everyone in that thread had an 8500GT video card, so everyone thought THAT was the problem. but seeing as the problem only happens in cutscenese/dialog.. i figured it was a sound issue.possibly some kind of IRQ sharing between the onboard sound and video card? i dunno, but i never had this problem with any other game. Figure the witcher's sound code just stinks.but so far since going to a real sound card i've not had the problem./LE:as i suspected... i fixed my issue.with onboard sound enabled, i couldn't get past the long cutscene between prologue and act 1 without massive video stutters during the talking and the inevitable texture garbage'ing afterwards.disabled onboard sound and installed my Audigy 2 ZS card, and haven't had any issues so far. i did get a very minor jerk here and there through the whole custscene, but they were VERY short and quick and also very far apart, and never completely hanging. gonna turn down sound acceleration a notch to see if it fixes those minor jitters.anyone with this problem who is using onboard sound... it's something to consider. i've had numerous conversations after i did that and haven't seen the problem yet.[MOD]Use the MODIFY button[/MOD]

 

[Licaon_Kter]

my specs:...AMD 4800+ dual core (AM2)...

and you do have the AMD processor Driver: http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/dynamicDetails.aspx?ListID=c5cd2c08-1432-4756-aafa-4d9dc646342f&ItemID=173and the AMD Dual Core Optimizer: http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/dynamicDetails.aspx?ListID=c5cd2c08-1432-4756-aafa-4d9dc646342f&ItemID=153right?

 

[quintonir]

Sooo.....no graphic card advice? I trust you guys waaaaay more than I'd trust PC World.No, seriously. Last time I went there, the guy wouldn't shut up about how awesome his PC was and how he played CoDMW all the time as a sniper. And he could see people from miles away, and had absolutely no lag. His tag is C4_Miles, if anybody's wondering. Yeah, he told me this. I didn't ask. Nor did I mention CoD, guns, FPS, his life, his computer, or anything that could in any way lead to this topic, except the vague link that is my being in PC World. I want a graphics card, man, not a new £600 PC. Oh, I just said that to your face but you'll just choose to ignore it then? Yeah, great customer services. Gragh. /rant

 

[Licaon_Kter]

Sooo.....no graphic card advice? I trust you guys waaaaay more than I'd trust PC World.

read: Getting tech help on the forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed what PSU do you have? how much money do you want to invest into the video card? from which stores ?

 

[quintonir]

PCWizard report is unnecessary for this problem. PSU is 350W. It's an old PC. I'm not going to be buying a new PC, though, nor can I be bothered rewiring everything by getting a new PSU. I'm only looking at mid-range cards, to be honest. As long as the game runs smoothly. And I'm not fussed about a store, as long as it's available in England.

 

[Licaon_Kter]

PCWizard report is unnecessary for this problem. PSU is 350W. It's an old PC. I'm not going to be buying a new PC, though, nor can I be bothered rewiring everything by getting a new PSU. I'm only looking at mid-range cards, to be honest. As long as the game runs smoothly.

a PCWizard report informs me on your platform, i can't recommend stuff at random that even can't be connected to your systemand since it's an old PC maybe the PSU will not be able to handle the video card, giving you Windows errors, game errors, surprise reboots and suchand what budget ?

 

[quintonir]

Ahh c'est vrai. I'll throw one up now.......................Haha, just found out I'd already made a report but hadn't attached it!

 

[Licaon_Kter]

Ahh c'est vrai. I'll throw one up now.......................Haha, just found out I'd already made a report but hadn't attached it!

read those PCWizard instructions againi want a full report not just the video section10x

 

[quintonir]

But it told me to go to video. *kills self*

 

[Licaon_Kter]

But it told me to go to video.

Next, press the Video icon and then choose File → Save As → check the radio button "Select Category", check the "With detailed information" and "With drivers information" then Press OK

this is your motherboard: http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/200506/MSIRS480M2IL_full.jpg ? what PSU did you say you have ? how much money can you invest in this ?