Didn't spot this topic until now, but someone had posted a warning about these drivers earlier, so I never installed them anyway. I'm also one of those who switched from ATI to Nvidia, and will never look back. Unfortunately, we've had some weird releases lately, and the mere possibility, that many people are reporting, that it actually lowers performance while increasing temperature build-ups, is enough for me to avoid these new drivers altogether. I did a complete driver wipe the other night, made absolutely sure there was no trace left of anything related to my GPU, and then installed the good old 270.61 drivers which I started with when TW2 was released, and never had any issues with. I also have 275.33 ready for install, if I feel like it (or if it helps TW2 in some way). I've disabled the updater completely, and I won't touch any other drivers again. Well, unless they release a version that becomes vastly approved of, and that significantly increases the performance in TW2.
Anyway, great topic, and I voted in approval of these sort of informative topics, in the poll. Much appreciated. : )
Anyway, great topic, and I voted in approval of these sort of informative topics, in the poll. Much appreciated. : )
I advice you to install the latest driver, i for example i have about 7 fps loss on the 270 driver compared with the 280 drivers. Maybe the OP has some problems with the driver, but it's a isolate case, you should try the 280 driver, and see if it's ok for you. Don't worry nvidia isn't sleeping, the 280 driver doesn't destroy your gpu, lol.
An overheating gpu can be damaged and a driver can lead to overheating. lolCalinRO said:
It's okay to try though, you're right in this point. Just watch the temperatures and gpu load to see if it works okay or not.
Seriously, you need to re-read the original post. It's not an isolated case, as there are several reports of varying degrees of problems occurring with this driver version; but the purpose of the topic is to simply provide us with information on this, so that people are aware of it before updating, in order to make a more informed decision whether to install the update, or not. Of course it's not going to happen to everyone - the majority will not experience any issues at all - but when there's a certain number of reports on the contrary, it's very good to inform others on this, just as a pre-caution.CalinRO said:
Completely fine for me. Amd ph ii x4 945 c3 @3ghz, gtx 4601gb, 1920x1080, same performance.
With all due respect, I'm not misleading anyone into thinking that these drivers will cause a total system meltdown. I simply communicated my experience with a relatively modern and stable system, and provided a link for all to review about a general consensus that these drivers have issues. If you recall, in-fact, it was sometime in March 2010 that nvidia even had to pull a WHQL driver within days of release because of heating issues - do you remember that - do you recall they officially reverted back to the previous driver because of problems? It happens. It's not the end of the world. You are more than welcome to provide constructive feedback, but how about you drop the "OP is blah blah". In fact, I would bet on the fact that your card did increase its temperature (and your original "argument" would support my assumption), and that your performance did not increase. Nobody, not one single person on any forum is reporting any performance increases with the Witcher 2, but there's plenty to the contrary - and I can tell you that the two or so hours of benchmarking I did when I did the install (clean install), there was not one extra frame per second increase. Not one! But I invite you to do a comparison benchmark instead of just dismissing my experience on my post. You may have gained performance as an inherent consequence of installing clean drivers or a clean system, but I guarantee that the driver is not running the game's engine 1% more efficiently than in the previous release. But that's not the point.CalinRO said:
Never bothered to install the newest drivers cause I had a bad experience with the Beta 280.19. When clicking a link in Mozilla the screen would go blak for a few seconds and then come back, went back to 275.50 and everything is fine.
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k for a few seconds and then come back, went back to 275.50 and everything is fine.(2500K+Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3, MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Twin Frozr II OC, Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB 1600Mhz cl9, Corsair Force Series F60 60GB, Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB 32MB, Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750W V2, Cooler Master HAF 922)
I'm actually sorry you have to defend yourself like that against users, who don't have half of your community spirit to offer (they didn't want to help, but inform everyone that they're right). But no good deed goes unpunished, they say.BlaiddGwyn said:
Please don't be discouraged to contribute to the community in the future.
Man chill out, no need to write novelsBlaiddGwyn said:
If you have problems, ok, i don't blame you. I advised that user to TRY the driver, and see if it's running better than the 275 of worst, and if it's running worst, to back down the driver, no big deal. Maybe this problem you are experiencing, some of you is because of different rigs configurations, maybe the 280 driver in witcher 2 is running a little better than the 275 probably i don't see the heat increase because of my good cooling system in the gpu, or users with a 500 nvidia video card and a intel cpu, maybe !
So man, i advice all users who saw this thread, to try the driver, not saying NO in the first place, try it, and if the driver is junk, to back down to a driver that is good for them. I don't force anyone to "install this driver, it's the best one in the world".
Ok, now enough of this useless fight, we both are the victims here, not the witcher 2, not us users, not cd projekt. The nvidia staff guy at nvidia official forums, said that in the 280 driver they will work to improve performance and stability with cd projekt, i personally asked him. And when the driver came out, this whole promise was a lie. And i think even on 285 driver will be the same.
No harm done. I'm at work and I'm bored, so writing a novel was inevitable. I'm with you regarding the fact that trying it out is a good idea - only thing is, as someone mentioned it already, it's best to get the heads up so that a) there's no placebo effect in thinking that the game runs better, andCalinRO said:Man chill out, no need to write novels
If you have problems, ok, i don't blame you. I advised that user to TRY the driver, and see if it's running better than the 275 of worst, and if it's running worst, to back down the driver, no big deal. Maybe this problem you are experiencing, some of you is because of different rigs configurations, maybe the 280 driver in witcher 2 is running a little better than the 275 probably i don't see the heat increase because of my good cooling system in the gpu, or users with a 500 nvidia video card and a intel cpu, maybe !
So man, i advice all users who saw this thread, to try the driver, not saying NO in the first place, try it, and if the driver is junk, to back down to a driver that is good for them. I don't force anyone to "install this driver, it's the best one in the world".
Ok, now enough of this useless fight, we both are the victims here, not the witcher 2, not us users, not cd projekt. The nvidia staff guy at nvidia official forums, said that in the 280 driver they will work to improve performance and stability with cd projekt, i personally asked him. And when the driver came out, this whole promise was a lie. And i think even on 285 driver will be the same.
you can monitor the temps and see how it is. I still stand by my words that this driver release is truly garbage, but as we all agree, that happens. Without a doubt, the same driver does not provide the same performance on different systems - but there's such a thing as a broken driver and a poorly optimized driver. In this case it's probably the latter, but I'm sorry, 15C temp increases is a no-no in most cases. My GPU never goes above 55C on max load overclocked at 830Mhz, but with this driver, it was running close to 65C, which is not relatively high, but it's an uneccaptable variance going from one driver to the next. That's all. Ok already in novel mode so I'll stop!Yeah man it's a nasty increase in heat for you, but you need to report this issue in the nvidia forums, to make proof as well, running the game with the driver that is ok, and running it again with the heat-problem driver.
And the 280 driver it could be garbage to you, to me as well in a small proportion, but i'm not playing only Witcher 2. Bad Company 2 runs much better with this 280 driver, i get solid 99% gpu usage and solid frame rate. So, maybe in your first post in this thread you was a little misunderstood, you adviced all the users to stay away for this driver.I think the best post was something like, i have big issues with this driver, ON this configuration, on this OS. I advice you if you install this new driver to monitor the temperatures first when you play the game, and the performance you gain, and then decide that is a good driver for you or isn't. I advice you this new driver is ain't a "plug and play" driver it could give you problems, monitor first the temps and overall stability in Witcher 2, and then decide, what and where.
And the 280 driver it could be garbage to you, to me as well in a small proportion, but i'm not playing only Witcher 2. Bad Company 2 runs much better with this 280 driver, i get solid 99% gpu usage and solid frame rate. So, maybe in your first post in this thread you was a little misunderstood, you adviced all the users to stay away for this driver.I think the best post was something like, i have big issues with this driver, ON this configuration, on this OS. I advice you if you install this new driver to monitor the temperatures first when you play the game, and the performance you gain, and then decide that is a good driver for you or isn't. I advice you this new driver is ain't a "plug and play" driver it could give you problems, monitor first the temps and overall stability in Witcher 2, and then decide, what and where.
Hmmm, I think my original post was fair. Wrong title, but fair content. Just a warning. Maybe you haven't read it yet in it's full form? I'm starting to think you haven't. Nobody seems to have misunderstood what I wrote, or the motive behind it. Anyways, I appreciate your suggestions.CalinRO said:Yeah man it's a nasty increase in heat for you, but you need to report this issue in the nvidia forums, to make proof as well, running the game with the driver that is ok, and running it again with the heat-problem driver.
And the 280 driver it could be garbage to you, to me as well in a small proportion, but i'm not playing only Witcher 2. Bad Company 2 runs much better with this 280 driver, i get solid 99% gpu usage and solid frame rate. So, maybe in your first post in this thread you was a little misunderstood, you adviced all the users to stay away for this driver.I think the best post was something like, i have big issues with this driver, ON this configuration, on this OS. I advice you if you install this new driver to monitor the temperatures first when you play the game, and the performance you gain, and then decide that is a good driver for you or isn't. I advice you this new driver is ain't a "plug and play" driver it could give you problems, monitor first the temps and overall stability in Witcher 2, and then decide, what and where.
The title was the big "problem". But you should make a nvidia forum thread there and explain the problem, is very nasty what you are getting there. I have a thread there with the windows 7 boot logo artefact, and the staff guy there said that the issue will be fixed in September 285.xx driver.
UPDATEyayodeanno said:Never bothered to install the newest drivers cause I had a bad experience with the Beta 280.19. When clicking a link in Mozilla the screen would go bla
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I installed 280.26 and same issues as above started to occur with "nvidia kernel mode driver not responding and has recovered" messages. I suspect it has to do with factory overclocking of my card, as somebody in Nvidia forums has suggested. Anyways, I'm back to 275.50 which work fine.
I jumped from 280.19 to 280.28 ( OpenGL 4.2.0 beta / 280_19 branch ) without issues.