Bombs, and other things that were not in the books..Or were they?

[parabola000]

Bombs, and other things that were not in the books..Or were they?

Speaking English and all I am unlucky enough to only be able to read 2 of the books that are available in my language. In those 2 books I don't remember Geralt ever using anything close to any of the bombs i'm seeing in these videos. Also he wasn't good with magic, just knew a few simple signs. Anyways I'm just wondering if in that later books these things are used, and he gets more proficient with magic? Just seems like the combat looks nothing like its described in the books, they never described it as him rolling around all over the place and shooting spells and throwing bombs.Also I'm sure its been asked but are we ever going to get the entire series of books in English? I almost wish I never read blood of Elves because it just leaves you hanging with nowhere to go and seemingly no hope for any new additions being translated to English. I really hope they are because the 2 books are awesome. And i feel like I'm getting left out on the story of the games by not knowing what happened with Ciri and everything.One more things I wanted to add, the description on the back of the book The Last Wish of Geralt... WTF is that all about , hes not a cunning assassin he even explains in the book how he dislikes being taken as such. Hes also not a sorcerer...The description on the back of the books is everything he is not lol, am I right?Anyways sorry in advance tot he first 3 posters who will tell me to use the search bar or to post somewhere else or some other such things.

 

[archaven.84]

I didn't read the books but it sounds interesting to know that in books they didn't describe of using bombs. So by definitions from the fan..atics should we remove them?

 

[soldiergeralt]

in the books, geralt is dead.hehe

 

[parabola000]

Yeah, maybe he learned how to make bombs int he afterlife I guess lol.

 

[Devils4dvocate]

OK, many questions, I will make my little contribution.About magic. It is true that Geralt mainly uses signs, that are simple spells, almost intuitive ones and combat focused. I assume that this is the same for other witchers, although, anyway it seems that the innate talents of each recruit are important, and that there are different witcher schools, that stress different aspects of the proffession. For example, the master of Gerald is a swordman instructor, and it is stated somewhere in the books that his pupils have limited potion knowledge (regarding mutagens, I think). Said that, I like the specialization tree that has been announced in TW2, because I think it is fathful to the spirit of the books in this matter.Coming back to the signs, there are ones used in the books and the game (Aard, Igni, Axii), others exclusively in the books (Heliotrop) or the game (Yrden). Besides, there are other simple magic tricks without name that Geralt uses in the books, always as an additional combact tactic. In any case, I wouldnt say that the Geralt-from-TW2 is particulary proficient in the use of the magic. He cannot compare in any case with the real magic users of the lore, the sorcerers, as far as we know.About the bombs. As I recall, Geralt doesn't use anything similar to a bomb or petard in the books.About the acrobatics in the combat. The witcher fighting style in the books is described as acrobatic. In one ocasion, after a fight a character is asked if he works in a circus. As little realistic this could seems, the combats animation in TW1 are quite faithful to the books. The rolling-thing in TW2 is not as spectacular as the former movements, but it is OK for me.And, yeah, I havent got the english edition, but Geralt is anything but a killer without moral.

 

[Miko19]

Some time has passed since the last book and the Witcher game, many new things were probably invented, and Geralt, now played by -You- can learn some new magic tricks. For a guy that's more than 100 years old he seems to still catch up with the newest trends, doesn't he?

 

[Palka]

As for signs - DevilsAdvocate is partially right. You mentioned Heliotrop sign - remember it protected Geralt from getting knocked on wall? PROTECTED! So, in TW and TW 2 it will be called a Quen sign, simple. And you say that Yrden is exclusively for game? Well, to remind you how Geralt was saving Adda: he locked himself in a tomb, and used some kind of sign to keep her off coffin. It was described like some trap in the book. Here u have Yrden!As for the bombs - Witcher never used them, he relied on sword and Aard, but I recall a moment from the book, perhaps from moment of Gors Velen... well, there was mentioned that merchant from Zerrikania has some things like bombs and so on. As for acrobatics - did ANYBODY read the book? Ciri learning in Kaer Morhen- "Jump, pirouette, somersault, stab, cut, ok, you can wear the band off from your eyes."

 

[Devils4dvocate]

As for signs - DevilsAdvocate is partially right. You mentioned Heliotrop sign - remember it protected Geralt from getting knocked on wall? PROTECTED! So, in TW and TW 2 it will be called a Quen sign, simple. And you say that Yrden is exclusively for game? Well, to remind you how Geralt was saving Adda: he locked himself in a tomb, and used some kind of sign to keep her off coffin. It was described like some trap in the book. Here u have Yrden!

Wow, I suppose you're right... I always thought that the spell on the coffin were some kinf of repulsive one, but yeah, anyway not too far form Yrden concept. Thanks for your notes, very insightful, man.

 

[DelighfulMcCoy]

Some time has passed since the last book and the Witcher game, many new things were probably invented, and Geralt, now played by -You- can learn some new magic tricks. For a guy that's more than 100 years old he seems to still catch up with the newest trends, doesn't he?

I take it you have read more books than we in original Polish, right? So, did you come across his real age in one of those books? We only know that he is older than he looks, but not how much older.°~°~°And another thing I find kind of weird is the issue of the night sight. It's not even exclusively in the books, it's right there in the game, Eskel explains to Geralt in Kaer Morhen, how witchers can see in the dark. And hey, cat eyes right there, he is supposed to see in the dark. Yet he still needs to take a potion even in TW2, only there he also gets an orange see through walls effect on top of the night sight. The DeVries potion from TW1 did that just fine (and I never used it). I used the stuff mod in TW1 to have permanent night sight and that felt perfectly normal to me.

 

[Devils4dvocate]

Some time has passed since the last book and the Witcher game, many new things were probably invented, and Geralt, now played by -You- can learn some new magic tricks. For a guy that's more than 100 years old he seems to still catch up with the newest trends, doesn't he?

I take it you have read more books than we in original Polish, right? So, did you come across his real age in one of those books? We only know that he is older than he looks, but not how much older.°~°~°And another thing I find kind of weird is the issue of the night sight. It's not even exclusively in the books, it's right there in the game, Eskel explains to Geralt in Kaer Morhen, how witchers can see in the dark. And hey, cat eyes right there, he is supposed to see in the dark. Yet he still needs to take a potion even in TW2, only there he also gets an orange see through walls effect on top of the night sight. The DeVries potion from TW1 did that just fine (and I never used it). I used the stuff mod in TW1 to have permanent night sight and that felt perfectly normal to me.

I think it has been mended in TW2 the way it has been done. In my understand now the cat potion allows not to see in darkness but to see heat (like body heat) like a infrared camera, an air-to-air missile or some animals. To me, that's different.

 

[DelighfulMcCoy]

I think it has been mended in TW2 the way it has been done. In my understand now the cat potion allows not to see in darkness but to see heat (like body heat) like a infrared camera, an air-to-air missile or some animals. To me, that's different.

And here I thought, cats saw grey by night. If that't right and Geralt can see by night and only needs the potion for the infrared, then I am very satisfied.

 

[Devils4dvocate]

I think it has been mended in TW2 the way it has been done. In my understand now the cat potion allows not to see in darkness but to see heat (like body heat) like a infrared camera, an air-to-air missile or some animals. To me, that's different.

And here I thought, cats saw grey by night. If that't right and Geralt can see by night and only needs the potion for the infrared, then I am very satisfied.

xD Maybe they will change the potion name from cat to cat-with-militar-infrared-googles

 

[ammadim]

Also I'm sure its been asked but are we ever going to get the entire series of books in English? I almost wish I never read blood of Elves because it just leaves you hanging with nowhere to go and seemingly no hope for any new additions being translated to English. I really hope they are because the 2 books are awesome. And i feel like I'm getting left out on the story of the games by not knowing what happened with Ciri and everything.

Oh Parabola,I can sympathize.I Just finished Blood of elves like a week ago and I'm still incredibly annoyed that there seems to be no real plans to publish the rest of the books in english -.-.As for getting rest of the series in english...Well,Amazon has Times of Contempt release date for May 2012.Make of that what you will.Perhaps if TW2 is a big commercial success some bigname publisher will get to it (I can dream,can't I ._.).

 

[freakie1one]

And another thing I find kind of weird is the issue of the night sight. It's not even exclusively in the books, it's right there in the game, Eskel explains to Geralt in Kaer Morhen, how witchers can see in the dark. And hey, cat eyes right there, he is supposed to see in the dark. Yet he still needs to take a potion even in TW2, only there he also gets an orange see through walls effect on top of the night sight. The DeVries potion from TW1 did that just fine (and I never used it). I used the stuff mod in TW1 to have permanent night sight and that felt perfectly normal to me.

Actually this is explained in the books as well. Geralt can intentionally adjust his pupils to let in more/less light, but it's not total night vision.

Spoiler

In the book Blood of Elves there is a scene where Geralt takes an elixir that enhances his vision (allowing him to see everything in tones of grey, improving his night vision) and also enhances his hearing. It's the scene where Rience tries to kill Geralt in an alley with a group of hired assassins.

 

[zax19]

Considering that there are no silver vs. steel swords in the books I think bombs are acceptable. Also I don't think at all that Triss is some kind of evil vixen, such profile fits Philippa Eilhart more. So I just hope they won't mix up the story much, I'm already afraid about the creatures like dragons and golems...

 

[Kodaemon5924]

The books very definitely mention witchers using steel (actuallly "meteoric iron") and silver swords. As for petards, I do seem to recall at least one instance of a petard being used in the books, I think by Squirrels in Tower of the Swallow. So, they do exist in the witcherverse. Geralt was never shown using them, but his amnesia in the game can justify a change in habits.

 

[zax19]

I don't have time to read through all the books again so I'll put it this way: Geralt used one sword and didn't need a silver one specifically against monsters. That's what I was trying to explain. Since we have that in game, bombs don't really make such a huge difference plus there are the 5 years of unknown.

 

[Kodaemon5924]

But Geralt *does* carry the two swords whenever he can, and they *are* effective against different types of monsters.

 

[freakie1one]

I don't have time to read through all the books again so I'll put it this way: Geralt used one sword and didn't need a silver one specifically against monsters. That's what I was trying to explain. Since we have that in game, bombs don't really make such a huge difference plus there are the 5 years of unknown.

As Kodaemon said, Geralt does carry multiple swords. He describes one as being made from meteorite metal and another being forged from silver. Usually he keeps the silver sword wrapped up in a cloth, separate from the meteorite sword.

 

[zax19]

I know it's mentioned that silver swords are good against ghouls and so on, but in what I consider the core story of Geralt (the five books) he uses just one sword to kill both humans and creatures alike.It's possible that in the short stories he specifically carries an extra silver sword, but in the 5 books he had no problem killing without it - it's not a necessity (which the game presents it as).So that's why I didn't really think this was canon. But no need to argue, the use of silver sword is not contradictory, I can accept it being a necessity in the game.