(Bookreaders) Your opinion about book-Ciri and game-Ciri

[hedop]

I'm not trying to justify it.

Just being funny.

If nothing else, she could have picked up something after she was in Kaer Morhen.

Video Games, eh.

Hell she could have said: Dad can I have your jacket? My nipples have been hard for like 5 years nonstop now.
Or: Mom can I borrow one of your jackets?

They had time and the brain to give her a fucking fur lining on her collar once she boards the ship to Skellige but they didn't have the means, times or brains to close the fucking front of her shirt at the same time? How infuriatingly stupid is that? Bra showing but at least she's got a fucking fur collar... great job.

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Male Renaissance fencers did wear heels too... as for the rest: I dunno? Maybe she likes the outfit? Maybe she's merely used to it? There are many possibilities... forced fan-service is not the first that comes to mind for me, to be honest.



So Ves is stupid idealist... she's fighting a lost cause and her commander is holding her back by being overly protective. Considering her background, I can imagine it.

You are talking about friggin salon fencers... people who met in ballrooms and did a bit of fancy sword work. None of them did go into battle like that furthermore... stop with the fencing... she is wearing a friggin two-hander on her back. You don't fence with a two-hander you sword fight.

Just so we are on the same page:

This is a two-handed bastard sword. It's not a Greatsword like Geralt's but it's basically the size of Jon Snow's Longclaw which is a mix between a longsword and a greatsword. You do NOT fence with that and most of Ciri's strikes are performed twohanded. It's not fencing.

Why couldn't they have her look like this? (outfitwise):

That's a pretty sensible outfit with no high heels and still femine.

 

[warbaby2]

Hell she could have said: Dad can I have your jacket? My nipples have been hard for like 5 years nonstop now.
Or: Mom can I borrow one of your jackets?

They had time and the brain to give her a fucking fur lining on her collar once she boards the ship to Skellige but they didn't have the means, times or brains to close the fucking front of her shirt at the same time? How infuriatingly stupid is that? Bra showing but at least she's got a fucking fur collar... great job.

...keeping ones tonsils and voice box warm IS important...

...sorry, I can't stay serious anymore. With all the small problems the game has, this is one of the mot negligible. I still find it more infuriating that she wears panties in the sauna, to be honest. You ever did that? It's f*cking icky!

That's a pretty sensible outfit with no high heels and still femine.

Yup, sensible, and really boring... it's still a fantasy game.

...and she uses a very thin, light longsword, 4 lbs max. That's no two hander. She just fights two handed, like most longsword fighters do, for maximum blade control.

 

[hedop]

...keeping ones tonsils and voice box warm IS important...

...sorry, I can't stay serious anymore. With all the small problems the game has, this is one of the mot negligible. I still find it more infuriating that she wears panties in the sauna, to be honest. You ever did that? It's f*cking icky!

Nope I didn't but then it's weird that they just wear panties. Even back in the days in Finnland and sauna countries people would use some form of cloth to sit upon to not sweat all over the wood. They do that till this day. Given that they didn't have towels it would have made sense for them to be nude but sit on some form of cloth.

 

[Willowhugger]

Guys, I have my own perfect explanation for it.

This asshat is telling the story.

"And then Ves arrived. Oh God, Ves had this BEAUTIFUL set of....and she was...yeah...oooo."

Geralt will be less than pleased when he finds out how much attention he paid to Ciri's bra strap and butt in his ballads.

 

[Sakai88]

I don't get it, why people are so hung up about Ciri's outfit? I mean, i played through an entire game and only noticed her bra after someone made a video about how problematic it is. I feel like the problem here is not what Ciri's wearing, but the society's expectation of what people should wear. "You can see her bra, engage the moral panic!" Well, why? Also, about what makes sense and what isn't, Geralt's wearing any armor whatsoever makes zero sense. Yet no one's complaining about him jumping around like a show dancer in plate armor, but Ciri's outfit is an issue? How come?

Why couldn't they have her look like this?

Because what she wears is not just an outfit, its a represantation of her character since that's the only thing she wears throughout the whole game.

 

[hedop]

Dandelion is a wanker anyway... I wish Geralt would punch his lights out every time he has stupid idea.

 

[Willowhugger]

Dandelion is a wanker anyway... I wish Geralt would punch his lights out every time he has stupid idea.

Then he would be punching him all the time!

Not that I object.

 

[warbaby2]

Then he would be punching him all the time!

Not that I object.

Not in the least...

 

[hedop]

I don't get it, why people are so hung up about Ciri's outfit? I mean, i played through an entire game and only noticed her bra after someone made a video about how problematic it is. I feel like the problem here is not what Ciri's wearing, but the society's expectation of what people should wear. "You can see her bra, engage the moral panic!" Well, why? Also, about what makes sense and what isn't, Geralt's wearing any armor whatsoever makes zero sense. Yet no one's complaining about him jumping around like a show dancer in plate armor, but Ciri's outfit is an issue? How come?

Because it's stupid and it serves no purpose. Obviously plate armor is dumb for Geralt and for any witcher and I believe that has been adressed loads of times in other threads. But her bra showing is just pure and simply dumb. It serves no purpose and there are plenty of women in the world wearing a similar linen blouse who apparently have no difficulty whatsoever buttoning it properly. Furthermore it makes no sense that she would be wearing highheels given that she knows she will have to fight. Because of that knowledge it also makes no sense that she doesn't wear any form of protective clothing whatsoever.

If I was Geralt the first thing I'd do would be to take Ciri to Novigrad and get her a tailored leather jacket with attachable hood and some proper leather armguards.

Funny things is... she wears gloves and leather trousers so obviously she is concerned about the weather and the protection those clothes offer...

 

[Willowhugger]

Because it's stupid and it serves no purpose. Obviously plate armor is dumb for Geralt and for any witcher and I believe that has been adressed loads of times in other threads. But her bra showing is just pure and simply dumb. It serves no purpose and there are plenty of women in the world wearing a similar linen blouse who apparently have no difficulty whatsoever buttoning it properly. Furthermore it makes no sense that she would be wearing highheels given that she knows she will have to fight. Because of that knowledge it also makes no sense that she doesn't wear any form of protective clothing whatsoever.

If I was Geralt the first thing I'd do would be to take Ciri to Novigrad and get her a tailored leather jacket with attachable hood and some proper leather armguards.

Funny things is... she wears gloves and leather trousers so obviously she is concerned about the weather and the protection those clothes offer...

I think the oddity of it all is that it's not like Ciri wouldn't be attractive in a more practical outfit.

 

[Sakai88]

Funny things is... she wears gloves and leather trousers so obviously she is concerned about the weather and the protection those clothes offer...

Gloves and leather trousers offer no protecation whatsoever. Just as anything else made of leather. Wearing leather jacket or not would be much more of a fashion choice than anything else. And if i was Geralt, i wouldn't care one bit.

 

[hedop]

Gloves and leather trousers offer no protecation whatsoever. Just as anything else made of leather. Wearing leather jacket or not would be much more of a fashion choice than anything else. And if i was Geralt, i wouldn't care one bit.

Wow... you really have no clue. Of course boilt leather offers protection. It offers protection against piercing damage from knives as most knives can not pentrate a layer of hardened aka boiled leather and if they can their force is significantly slowed down and because you add a layer of thick leather probably around 3 centimeters or more chances are that the knive, unless it is fairly long, will not penetrate any vital organs. Furthermore Swords are mainly blunt instruments. Even good ones barely hold a proper edge and to actually slice through any body part your need to hit extremely well with the edge and with considerable force. Again: boiled leather stops the cut, it dampens the impact. Obviously it won't hold out but we are talking about protection against mainly glancing blows not direct hits. Boiled and hardened leather is an extremely potent and lightweight armor. Why on earth do you think the Japanese samurai wore leather armors even in their heyday? if Ciri would put a padding jacket under the the leather jacket she would even be able to withstand a longbow attack.

 

[Willowhugger]

Both practical and sexy, our redheaded sorceress displays the form-fitting attire of a woman on the go. While Triss Merrigold has advantages over most women in the method of removing excess clothing for a night of hot passion in a underground elven grotto, the "Witch's Wrap" is the perfect attire for the adventuress out for both a Flotsam Brawl or on the road to Kaedwin. The bustier for this delightful piece of Faux-Medieval gear is a secret our favorite girl is keeping to herself but clearly provides much support.

 

[hedop]

Both practical and sexy, our redheaded sorceress displays the form-fitting attire of a woman on the go.

This! Why on earth couldn't they bring this back maybe with an added cloak and in some more earthy colours? That was a great outfit for Triss and would have been really cool for Novigrad.

 

[lwp]

This! Why on earth couldn't they bring this back maybe with an added cloak and in some more earthy colours? That was a great outfit for Triss and would have been really cool for Novigrad.

I know right? I love this outfit. Much better than a certain *cough* alternate look dlc.

 

[warbaby2]

Gloves and leather trousers offer no protecation whatsoever. Just as anything else made of leather. Wearing leather jacket or not would be much more of a fashion choice than anything else. And if i was Geralt, i wouldn't care one bit.

True, the most a studded leather jacket (Geralt's only "armor" in the books) would protect of would be a short cutting blade... any serious form of piercing or cutting weapon would go right through... not to mention a blunt weapon like a hammer or flail. Witcher's wear leather because it's convenient, not protective.

In the game, however, they wear thick, padded leather, chain, and/or plates of boiled hide and steel... it's a design choice, but not really "canon".

 

[Willowhugger]

I know right? I love this outfit. Much better than a certain *cough* alternate look dlc.

In the Star Wars Expanded universe novels, they kind of made fun of this attitude.

"Jaina had grabbed a jumpsuit which was two sizes too small and as a result, could not be zipped up the entire way as well as stuck a little too tight--exactly the wrong sort of thing for not drawing attention on a secret mission."

 

[Sakai88]

Wow... you really have no clue. Of course boilt leather offers protection. It offers protection against piercing damage from knives as most knives can not pentrate a layer of hardened aka boiled leather and if they can their force is significantly slowed down and because you add a layer of thick leather probably around 3 centimeters or more chances are that the knive, unless it is fairly long, will not penetrate any vital organs. Furthermore Swords are mainly blunt instruments. Even good ones barely hold a proper edge and to actually slice through any body part your need to hit extremely well with the edge and with considerable force. Again: boiled leather stops the cut, it dampens the impact. Obviously it won't hold out but we are talking about protection against mainly glancing blows not direct hits. Boiled and hardened leather is an extremely potent and lightweight armor. Why on earth do you think the Japanese samurai wore leather armors even in their heyday? if Ciri would put a padding jacket under the the leather jacket she would even be able to withstand a longbow attack.

I'm guessing there's a difference between a simple leather jacket and a proper military-grade armor. In the books, Geralt himself not wearing any armor at all, so how is it makes sense for Ciri to be some kind of female samurai? She wears something what a person in her situation (on the run and without money) would wear. Simple, basic, something you can throw on and off quickly.

 

[warbaby2]

In the Star Wars Expanded universe novels, they kind of made fun of this attitude.

"Jaina had grabbed a jumpsuit which was two sizes too small and as a result, could not be zipped up the entire way as well as stuck a little too tight--exactly the wrong sort of thing for not drawing attention on a secret mission."

Hehe... yea, the alternate outfit really is a tad too much for anything else then an elven dance party.

I mean, who wear something that is low cut in the front AND the back!? Who? Only a sorceress, because you'd need magic to keep it where it's supposed to be!

 

[Willowhugger]

Hehe... yea, the alternate outfit really is a tad too much for anything else then an elven dance party.

I mean, who wear something that is low cut in the front AND the back!? Who? Only a sorceress, because you'd need magic to keep it where it's supposed to be!

Spell-o-tape.

Lots and lots of spell-o-tape.

And where are the Ciri alternate outfits, gosh darni it!

I'd also love a Ciri skin for playing as Geralt!