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[Books Spoilers] Auberon, King of the Alders

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Metalunatic

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#1
Aug 8, 2015
[Books Spoilers] Auberon, King of the Alders

In the book, The Lady of the Lake, Eredin apparently gave Auberon poison or aphrodisiacs, which the king overdosed, but acts surprised when Ciri mentions that he's dead. In TW3 on the other hand, Eredin is seen having an active hand in poisoning Auberon and even gives a sinister line while picking up the container, which fell from the king's hand when he died. In the book, only Ciri was with Auberon when he passed away and it's definately not clearly stated that Eredin wanted to murder Auberon.

Is this just a (careless) retcon or what? Can't say I'm too happy when facts from the books are not respected.
 
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Paprikamann

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#2
Aug 8, 2015
Yes, it is a (careless) retcon. Unfortunately.
 
Shavod

Shavod

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#3
Aug 10, 2015
Metalunatic said:
In the book, The Lady of the Lake, Eredin apparently gave Auberon poison or aphrodisiacs, which the king overdosed, but acts surprised when Ciri mentions that he's dead. In TW3 on the other hand, Eredin is seen having an active hand in poisoning Auberon and even gives a sinister line while picking up the container, which fell from the king's hand when he died. In the book, only Ciri was with Auberon when he passed away and it's definately not clearly stated that Eredin wanted to murder Auberon.

Is this just a (careless) retcon or what? Can't say I'm too happy when facts from the books are not respected.
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Well, it's hard to say, because there was a lot of discussion about what exactly that scene meant. Some saw it as an accident, other as an intentional poisoning on Eredin's or Avallac'h part. Remember that Ciri appeared unannounced in Auberon's chambers right before she left and only because of that she witnessed his death. Eredin's surprised reaction may be interpreted as a shock, because he didn't know about his death, or him being surprised that Ciri already knows about it. The fact that he gets over it instantly seems to support the latter, but the case can be made for both, so RED's choosed the one interpretation, which they liked better.
 
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Lieste

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#4
Aug 10, 2015
I wasn't convinced that Oneiromancy was "unfakeable" too. Remember that Sarah was influencing the dreamer when we first met... Could have been a mild prodding from Avall'ach and his quite subtle and powerful magical abilities and known predilection for misdirection (fake human cave paintings guarding a much older ancient elvish mausoleum for instance)...

Maybe Ge'els is ambitious too and didn't need much incentive to rid himself of Eredin for the co-operation of Avall'ach in the future (and thus more susceptible to suggestion and interpretation which favours this).
 
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Systlin

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#5
Aug 11, 2015
Lieste said:
I wasn't convinced that Oneiromancy was "unfakeable" too. Remember that Sarah was influencing the dreamer when we first met... Could have been a mild prodding from Avall'ach and his quite subtle and powerful magical abilities and known predilection for misdirection (fake human cave paintings guarding a much older ancient elvish mausoleum for instance)...

Maybe Ge'els is ambitious too and didn't need much incentive to rid himself of Eredin for the co-operation of Avall'ach in the future (and thus more susceptible to suggestion and interpretation which favours this).
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I tend to agree that Ge'els didn't exactly need much prodding to turn on Eredin. I think that Eredin did intend to poison Auberon, personally, and then take his place both as King and as the father of the child of Ciri's they wanted so badly.
 
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