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(Books Spoilers) Geralts Hansa

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glorfindeil

Senior user
#1
Jan 29, 2013
(Books Spoilers) Geralts Hansa

Ok sorry if its Offtop, i do not know where to post but i had question bout storyline in witcher books and witchery pc game

in the witcher 1 during quest an old friend of mine dandelion says to geralt he saw his death, when propably ''cirila'' saved his and jenifers lifes. he says all his friends, zoltan, cahir, milva, angoulema sawed it too, so they where in rivia what means they where alive. he also mentioned the vampire Regis who died fighting for geralt. now in the last book the Lady of the Lake all geralts companions died assaulting Stygga castle to save ciriael and kill Vilgefortz. so if they died there how where they able to see geralt dieng after some years?
is just a little missunderstooding between game and book? or i missed something? pls help. i just try to find a reason to belive that geralts or ciri or someone else found a way to get them back to life so we will have chance to meet them in the witcher 3 :)
 
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Darth_Orzech.794

Forum veteran
#2
Jan 29, 2013
glorfindeil said:
now in the last book the Lady of the Lake all geralts companions died assaulting Stygga castle to save ciriael and kill Vilgefortz. so if they died there how where they able to see geralt dieng after some years?/>
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It seems that you still need to finish the Lady of the Lake :)/> At the end you will find your answer :)/> but do not hold much hope for a miracle.

However, in one interview, Andrzej Sapkowski admitted that Regis is alive :)/>
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#3
Jan 29, 2013
DarthOrzech said:
However, in one interview, Andrzej Sapkowski admitted that Regis is alive :)
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Oh, good! I quite like Regis. Do you have a link to that interview?
 
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nvid

Senior user
#4
Jan 29, 2013
Its Jennifer in the English translation? Are you kidding me? :eek:

And, spoiler alert, Yenna didn't die, now did she?
 
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AsTheDeath

Senior user
#5
Jan 29, 2013
It's Yennefer, I think... why, what is it in the original?
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#6
Jan 29, 2013
nVid said:
Its Jennifer in the English translation? Are you kidding me? :eek:
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No, it's not; the OP just misremembered the spelling. ;)
 
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glorfindeil

Senior user
#7
Jan 29, 2013
sorry bout yen;) no she did not dies how witcher 2 show, letto says shes alive. but in rivia it looks like both of them geralt and yen died, and before games reincarnated them there where many discussions about what it means that ciri toke them in other world, cause it can be seeng as death.

but thanks, i have no hope bout regis(he was to good for our world;)) but for others.. will read whole night to finish that book


However, in one interview, Andrzej Sapkowski admitted that Regis is alive- can u give me some link?

yep shes yennifer and not jennifer:) i was just in hurry to get answers:))
 
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nvid

Senior user
#8
Jan 30, 2013
Yennefer didn't die in the books buddy. Just read it and then come with more questions :D Because you will come back, I assure you.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#9
Jan 30, 2013
Please clarify what you mean by "didn't die in the books", because Yennefer and Geralt are quite dead at the end of Lady of the Lake.
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#10
Jan 30, 2013
GuyN said:
Please clarify what you mean by "didn't die in the books", because Yennefer and Geralt are quite dead at the end of Lady of the Lake.
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Geralt died definitely, but it isn't really clear, whether Yennefer died too, it is possible she just passed out due overusing her healing skills to rescue Geralt.

Anyway Ciri revived Geralt with help of an unicorn and brought Geralt and Yennefer to a lonely spot, where they should live forever.

So no, they aren't dead by the end of the novels.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#11
Jan 30, 2013
Kallelinski said:
Geralt died definitely, but it isn't really clear, whether Yennefer died too, it is possible she just passed out due overusing her healing skills to rescue Geralt.

Anyway Ciri revived Geralt with help of an unicorn and brought Geralt and Yennefer to a lonely spot, where they should live forever.

So no, they aren't dead by the end of the novels.
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I would not describe what Ciri did for them as "revived". I suppose it's open to interpretation, but it's clear enough on my reading that she transported them to a place of the dead. This is why Ciri grieved that she had no magic to save Geralt, why she dismissed Triss by telling her she did not know what she asked, why Yennefer described the place as one where she would never leave him, and why Ciri cried as she finished her story. Also, the story of Geralt's wedding is not canon (nor are the games) and cannot be used to support an interpretation that they are still alive.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#12
Jan 30, 2013
But OP's question is different:

glorfindeil said:
in the witcher 1 during quest an old friend of mine dandelion says to geralt he saw his death, when propably ''cirila'' saved his and jenifers lifes. he says all his friends, zoltan, cahir, milva, angoulema sawed it too, so they where in rivia what means they where alive. he also mentioned the vampire Regis who died fighting for geralt. now in the last book the Lady of the Lake all geralts companions died assaulting Stygga castle to save ciriael and kill Vilgefortz. so if they died there how where they able to see geralt dieng after some years?
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In "Old friend of mine" Zoltan is telling you all this informations, and it's obvious that he didn't die neither at Stygga Castle, nor in Rivia.
Actually, I don't remember Zoltan mentioning Cahir, Milva and Angouleme in the game. He says something like "your old friends". Neither he ever mentions Yennefer. So all these assumptions are yours :)

Zoltan and Dandelion didn't die at Stygga but were in Rivia when Geralt and Yen died.

Just please remember that both games are a so called "spin-off" of Sapkowski's original work.
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#13
Jan 30, 2013
GuyN said:
I would not describe what Ciri did for them as "revived". I suppose it's open to interpretation, but it's clear enough on my reading that she transported them to a place of the dead. This is why Ciri grieved that she had no magic to save Geralt, why she dismissed Triss by telling her she did not know what she asked, why Yennefer described the place as one where she would never leave him, and why Ciri cried as she finished her story. Also, the story of Geralt's wedding is not canon (nor are the games) and cannot be used to support an interpretation that they are still alive.
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I don't think there is much room for interpretation, Ciri used magic to heal/revive him:
The unicorn came closer, neighing again and digging his hooves into the hard
cobblestones. He lowered his head, the horn which sprang from his head suddenly blazed
with light, with a sheen that dispelled the fog.
Ciri touched the horn.
Triss gasped loudly when she saw the girl's eyes filled with white heat and her head
enveloped in a halo. Ciri did not hear her, did not hear anyone. With one hand she touched
the unicorn's horn, with the other she touched the witcher. From her fingers drifted a ribbon
of flickering light.
What else did she if not trying to revive him?


If Geralt is dead, why does he feel pain? Why are his wounds badaged?
He felt the delicate touch of fingers on his temple and his cheek. Fingers he knew. He
loved her so much that it hurt. His stomach, chest and ribs aches, and a corset of tight
bandages convinced him completely that the pitchfork in the city of Rivia had not been a
nightmare.

Ya, i know the wedding isn't canon, it was a present to 2 friends.


GuyN said:
Ok sorry if its Offtop, i do not know where to post but i had question bout storyline in witcher books and witchery pc game

in the witcher 1 during quest an old friend of mine dandelion says to geralt he saw his death, when propably ''cirila'' saved his and jenifers lifes. he says all his friends, zoltan, cahir, milva, angoulema sawed it too, so they where in rivia what means they where alive. he also mentioned the vampire Regis who died fighting for geralt. now in the last book the Lady of the Lake all geralts companions died assaulting Stygga castle to save ciriael and kill Vilgefortz. so if they died there how where they able to see geralt dieng after some years?
is just a little missunderstooding between game and book? or i missed something? pls help. i just try to find a reason to belive that geralts or ciri or someone else found a way to get them back to life so we will have chance to meet them in the witcher 3
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Spoiler from the end of Lady of the Lake.
At first no one knew what the girl wanted help with. The poet was the first to understand.
Perhaps because he knew the legend that he frequently lectured on and sang its verses. In his
arms he picked up Yennefer. He marvelled at how small and light she was. He would have
sworn that someone helped him lift her. He would have sworn that he felt Cahir's arms
helping. That he caught a glimpse of Milva's braid. He would have sworn that when he took
the sorceress to the boat, he saw Angouleme's little had holding it steady.
 
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glorfindeil

Senior user
#14
Jan 30, 2013
i already done reading, just 5 mins ago:) but still lots of questions. hope the witcher 3 will give more answers. if geralt died (at last in his world) and all his companions, or friends of them who died where there to help them bring geralt and yen in boot. and after ciri tells to galahat about wedding(i have no much hope it was truth) where geralts companions where all there(beside Regis who was not human and went to other place after death, or just need time to get back to life after another 1k years). i can understand that like
after time when all of geralts still alive friends die they met at avalaone so they where able to join the wedding party :)/>. so it means that members of geralts hansa where already at avalone before geralt and yennifer. so they can come back to the world somehow, i dont belive in that las one but would love to met them in the Witcher 3 :)/> something ends and something begins i know but anyway im not ready yet for that:)

secondchildren said:
But OP's question is different:



In "Old friend of mine" Zoltan is telling you all this informations, and it's obvious that he didn't die neither at Stygga Castle, nor in Rivia.
Actually, I don't remember Zoltan mentioning Cahir, Milva and Angouleme in the game. He says something like "your old friends". Neither he ever mentions Yennefer. So all these assumptions are yours :)/>/>

Zoltan and Dandelion didn't die at Stygga but were in Rivia when Geralt and Yen died.

Just please remember that both games are a so called "spin-off" of Sapkowski's original work.
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zoltan was not an styyga, and the information where told by mr bard

damn i feel like empty now, got no book for tonight
 
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Kallelinski

Forum veteran
#15
Jan 30, 2013
The wedding is not "official", Sapkowski made this short story as a present for 2 fans who got married. It has nothing to do with the original story, he even insists on this in the prologue of this chapter.
 
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glorfindeil

Senior user
#16
Jan 31, 2013
i mean he wedding mentioned by ciri at end of lady of lake
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#17
Jan 31, 2013
glorfindeil said:
i mean he wedding mentioned by ciri at end of lady of lake
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That is the wedding that is not canon. The reference at the end of Lady of the Lake is to that wedding. The reference does not convert it to canon.
 
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Kodaemon5924

Forum veteran
#18
Feb 1, 2013
Galahad just couldn't believe Ciri's story ended the way it did, so she made up that impossible wedding.
 
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