Braindance porn genuinely curious how people view this

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Should there be brain dance porn in the game.

  • Yes

    Votes: 158 60.8%
  • Yes but not hardcore only softcore

    Votes: 45 17.3%
  • No this is a christian game.

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • No, but other braindance types yes.

    Votes: 42 16.2%
  • Yes, but censored.

    Votes: 4 1.5%

  • Total voters
    260
What i wonder is, how is it CDPR's responsibility to watch out that kids dont watch or play stuff like this. Its the responsibility of parents, yet companies get punished for including such things.

Exactly!

Well maybe I'm just so out of sync with what's "generally acceptable" and have such weird warped views on morals and what's okay/not okay or something like that xD
 
So, I dunno if I get that right, please correct me.

In this game, Cyberpunk, where we talk about adding back and not cutting out the sexual topic and include the exploration of sex as a topic in various ways.
This very game is already rated as being M or something like that in the US (or elsewhere), right? (so it's for an audience of above 18 or 21?)
So please educate me, how this would affect the rating or the impact on minors or anything if they would include said topics?

Tl;Dr:
It's a game for adults (18+), so why are there still censorships happening?!
It doesn't make any sense - at all -

These is how the two ratings, M and AO, are described per esrb.org:

M Rating is 17+
"Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language."

AO Rating is 18+
"Content suitable for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.

The degree to which sexual content is used in a game is what separates a M from a AO rating in this case.

So if porn was added to the game the rating would change to AO for obvious reasons.
 
These is how the two rating M and AO are described per esrb.org:

M Rating is 17+
"Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language."

AO Rating is 18+
"Content suitable for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.

So if porn was added to the game the rating would change to AO for obvious reasons.

Thanks :)
 
What i wonder is, how is it CDPR's responsibility to watch out that kids dont watch or play stuff like this. Its the responsibility of parents, yet companies get punished for including such things.

It's not CDPR responsibility, however, if something bad happens like a parent getting arrested or a company gets sued for selling the game accidently/intentionally to a minor the company who made the game will suffer blowback for it whether they deserve it or not and when they do a risk assessment of making a AO game of that kind it's usually just not worth it.
 
i think sexual thing is over, we had our fun with Witcher 2 and 3, its going down from here. I'm talking about AAA games. Even Witcher 4 will have less sex scenes than CP2077. Because big companies dont do that. Sexual gaming will start thriving from indie games until one of the indies make it and become viral.
 
You can choose to go carnage on people or incapacitate them by "setting them on fire" for instance.
You should be able to choose to see them titties or not if you so desire.

You can watch porn on the internet, but you can also go watch any combat movie there.
Going full Saw on others is perfectly fine, yet some titties bring out the pitchforks.

Add those BD's in any form or fashion you like. Just keep it optional and not mandatory. Reason is that you could go through the game without killing anyone and that is an option too.
 
The reason for this is because....

You can choose to go carnage on people or incapacitate them by "setting them on fire" for instance.

This is mostly self regulated by the media industry. Laws don't really touch on this to much in the United States at least.

You should be able to choose to see them titties or not if you so desire.

This is heavily regulated by laws and the media industry will do what ever it takes to not run afoul of them.

Going full Saw on others is perfectly fine, yet some titties bring out the pitchforks.

Not pitchforks, handcuffs. The former is only really regulated by the media industry while the latter is regulated by laws. Most gamers I would wager don't care if there are titties, as you put it, or not all that much but the law really does care who is seeing them.

Add those BD's in any form or fashion you like. Just keep it optional and not mandatory. Reason is that you could go through the game without killing anyone and that is an option too.

The problem with this is that if CDPR where to add BDs that where considered "porn" no one under the age of 18 (in the United States at least) would be able to touch this game, doesn't even matter if they never use the BDs, with out fear of getting in legal trouble or getting whoever gave them the game in legal trouble. Even a remote chance of a minor playing the game if it had this kind of content in it is why CDPR will never add porn BDs to CP. Now it is possible, as said in previous posts in this thread, for CDPR to add erotic BDs that don't cross the line into porn but it is a very fine line so I doubt they will risk it. Besides modders will do it eventually so don't worry you will have your porn BDs at some point in the future.

Now don't get me wrong I get where you are coming from. A 15 year old can blow digital peoples limbs off but they can't see more then X amount of titty. Looked at objectively it doesn't make a lot of sense but the reason for this is, like I said, one is regulated by law and the other isn't. Though there has been some push in the United States at least to make is so any games with any amount violence or sexual content are illegal to be bought/played by minors. So M rated would become 18+ basically. But they haven't been very successful thus far.
 
Hello Aedus Amaterasu, thank you for the reply.
I am aware that there are laws for one thing and not for the other. A few huge countries ( big gaming markets ) have different laws for various things.
Though while for some markets the products get adjusted for said market, it seems the same wont be done for other huge markets.
If, as you point out, in the United States the nudity is heavy regulated by law then there would also be the option to cut that content from the game for that particular market but leave it available for the rest. As is done for various things for any big market ( country ).

Dont get me wrong though, i am not advocating on behalf of more nudity content. I am advocating for freedom of choice.
Personally i dont give a hoop toot about nudity content. I just get riled up when personal choice and responsabillity gets taken away.
 
I prefer short nudity and sex scenes ala the Joytoys for actual sex in the game.

However, I feel like we should pick up braindances that AREN'T porn in the game or the ones that are will "fade to black" like this:

BRAINDANCE 1#:

*V puts on braindance*

*finds himself in hospital room*

Sexy Nurse: Hello, Doctor Studd, are you ready to put your implant to use?

Sexy Doctor: Or maybe you want to go with me?

*end braindance*

BRAINDANCE 2#

*you appear in Witcher 3# esque throne room*

Woman: I know you're my sibling but I want you!

V: No, we must think of Nilfgaard's invasion! I'm also a monk.

*vaguely game of thrones music plays*

*end scene*

Do it a little humorously so we know what the "porn" is about.
 
I'm "yes"- whether you want to watch it or not is another questions. Let's make this game adult as it's supposed to be. Game was advertised as having strip clubs, prostitutes and so on. Hell, it should have drugs as well. We're taking dystopian here. And still you can't officially take off your pants. So much for being adult. It's not about needing to have all this stuff- it's about being true.
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I'd love to have a few recreational brain dances, I'd like if they weren't all sex/strippers, but I'd like a couple of those too
There is one quest, where zen monk is meditating with V. Check this one out :).
 
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I think it would be cool for immersion (along with lap dances) but would be very low on my list of asks.
 
You can choose to go carnage on people or incapacitate them by "setting them on fire" for instance.
You should be able to choose to see them titties or not if you so desire.

You can watch porn on the internet, but you can also go watch any combat movie there.
Going full Saw on others is perfectly fine, yet some titties bring out the pitchforks.

Add those BD's in any form or fashion you like. Just keep it optional and not mandatory. Reason is that you could go through the game without killing anyone and that is an option too.

To be fair you can still see titties in the game (if you turn nudity on). Female nudity is more "acceptable" than male nudity. In the first mission where you save Sandra, you can see her completely bare but not the dude who was next to her because oh my god manbutt! Naked men are nowhere in the game. Meanwhile you can see Alt completely bare as well.
Double standards and all.
 
I don't think anything should be left out! this is their art, their showcase and should be presented the way it was intended.
 
Braindances are shared experiences, and obviously the game deals with not only porn, but some pretty dark and even horrific experiences that people monetize.

You do see some pretty messed up braindances in the game, and others which are much worse are referenced.

It's an interesting subject to explore, as virtual experiences become more immersive what types of experiences will be available, and what will the cost of those experiences be for example the human cost in being able to experience a crime in a braindance.

I think that's an awesome subject to go into, and the medium should serve the exploration. But having porn for porn sake is a waste of time.
 
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