[BUG] Letho missing from playthrough

[avantegardener]

Bump, this was a total bummer, I was so looking forward to having Letho in the game, should have been some sort of choices confirmation or even just a import W2 save successful, are you happy with your choices? 50 hours in, and already passed the The Fall of The House of Reardon quest.

 

[grogmcgee]

My suspicion is that it's not that there's a bug it's actually that we all imported incomplete W2 saves because you have to manually choose the save (which is bloody dumb, I shouldn't be able to import a save that doesn't have each of the relevent choices made).

 

[blackbishop86]

@grogmcgee
Completely agree.

In my first playthough I didn't have Letho and I let him live, because I picked up the wrong savegame, but at first I thought it was a bug. So I downloaded the Witcher 2 to confirm than the savegame was correct, and it was. But then I created a new game in Witcher 3 importing the savegame of the witcher 2 once more and then this time I noticed than the savegame I picked up first was an incomplete one, so I went to the Witcher 2 savegames folder and deleted all of them but the "good" one... you know, the only way to be sure.

And then I found Letho where he was supposed to be. I was almost at the end of Chapter 2 but having Letho around was worth starting over. I guess the way Roche treat me (like a friend), it is because it was an incomplete save because I didn't pick his side in W2.

 

[lif_andi]

This happened to me at second playthrough, and the reason for it was rather strange:

It seems that if you kill the wraiths outside the manor before you go in to look for Letho, that is if you finish the quest before entering the manor, Letho will not appear. Now on my third playthrough and took care to not kill anything before going inside the manor walls, and sure enough Letho was there this time. So it's not a bug per say, although I'm not sure if this is intended or not.

 

[skeletonbow]

This happened to me at second playthrough, and the reason for it was rather strange:

It seems that if you kill the wraiths outside the manor before you go in to look for Letho, that is if you finish the quest before entering the manor, Letho will not appear. Now on my third playthrough and took care to not kill anything before going inside the manor walls, and sure enough Letho was there this time. So it's not a bug per say, although I'm not sure if this is intended or not.

I have not tested this first-hand but I found a web page that stated all of the various dialogue choices there are in the game and all of the different changes to the story and end-game results you obtain based on the choices you make, as well as the way Witcher 2 save games affect the game. I do not have the link handy (didn't bookmark it) but there are allegedly 2 ways for Letho to appear in the game.

1) By importing a Witcher 2 save game in which Letho lives, and you are actually importing the *correct* save game from the end of the game.

2) By choosing the Witcher 2 save game simulation mode, and then when you're in Vizima palace getting a shave, answering the questions you're asked properly as that determines the Witcher 2 simulated save game state which will determine whether Letho shows up as an option later on among other things.

I did not get to see Letho because I did not load a savegame nor choose the simulate option. As far as I'm aware from what I read online, there is no bug regarding Letho - he only shows up if you meet the specific conditions for him to be alive and present based on your choices either in The Witcher 2 and using a correct save game file, or in the simulation dialogue choices.

If anyone else knows of another way I'm sure they'll share it as well though.

 

[lif_andi]

Well the thing is, with my first and second playthrough (got Letho on first, not second) I am 100% sure I imported the same save both times. There was a thread about this very thing in GD and someone pointed this possibility out for me, and sure enough, now on my 3rd playthrough, and Letho appeared and I took care not killing the wraiths before I went into the manor yard. So it makes sense that this is the reason, as it during my first playthrough I went straight into the yard expecting to find the monsters there. Found the traps instead.