Building a gaming PC

[ImPeakingIt]

Speaking of, finally got my CPU, mobo and SSD.

hey mate, have you got the 750ti setup as a dedicated physx card? I have been pondering the idea of getting another card for physx. I have a single 980 and 3770k and was wondering if getting dedicated physx card like a 750ti would be worth it? Reason i'm considering it is to be able to run W3 at ultra 60fps with Nvidia hair physx. But according to Gopher that wont be possible, as with the nvidia hair physx on the fps drops considerably.

 

[Lieste]

He didn't "get" a 750 for physx... rather it is the result of upgrading the old 750 with a 970, and then ending up with a physx card.

As for frame rate drop with Hairworks.. recall they were using a slightly older build that may have had debug code still running, and also the current (or beta) NVIDIA drivers, and were recording. All of which could result in much larger impact of higher end graphical features than in the release version with game ready drivers.

 

[ImPeakingIt]

As for frame rate drop with Hairworks.. recall they were using a slightly older build that may have had debug code still running, and also the current (or beta) NVIDIA drivers, and were recording. All of which could result in much larger impact of higher end graphical features than in the release version with game ready drivers.

ah, yes. Good point. I suppose with more optimization, latest drivers and no impact of video recording the fps drop may not be as severe and 60fps could still be possible. I will have to wait and see.

 

[sidspyker]

hey mate, have you got the 750ti setup as a dedicated physx card? I have been pondering the idea of getting another card for physx. I have a single 980 and 3770k and was wondering if getting dedicated physx card like a 750ti would be worth it? Reason i'm considering it is to be able to run W3 at ultra 60fps with Nvidia hair physx. But according to Gopher that wont be possible, as with the nvidia hair physx on the fps drops considerably.

Ooh, long story. It's not worth it, it's just a 'side-effect' of having 2 PCs and getting rid of the older one. The GPU in that died after many many years so I replaced it with the 750Ti which is a small low power magic beast and doesn't need power connectors... then a few months later the whole thing decided to die.

So I took the GPU and put it in my newer rig, which had a 5770 at that moment but the plan was always to get a 770(at the time) but I was waiting to get close to TW3 release and then the 9 series came out so I finally jumped ship. Now I use the 750Ti for Dedi Physx, driving my 2nd monitor and if there's a game that's not too demanding and I feel the 970 would be a waste on it, I just push it to the 2nd monitor

Also HairWorks is DirectCompute not PhysX, so the card wouldn't do anything.

 

[ImPeakingIt]

Also HairWorks is DirectCompute not PhysX, so the card wouldn't do anything.

oh really, well that certainly throws my whole idea and plan out the window. cheers.

 

[EliHarel]

:ermm: So maybe that stuff was overkill and they hoodwinked me there, but I decided to all out. Also upgraded to a 2 TB hard drive. Anyhow, it's a done deal and now I just need to settle on a monitor.

I was wondering about that myself, and I actually considered lowering my 1 TB to half, or something. Maybe it's because I didn't have a desktop since I was a kid, but I just can't imagine how I'll come near to using so much space.

 

[Lieste]

You'll use it.

I have 2 500GB drives both stuffed full, and I am always struggling to find space to work in, or for a new data source. My main use is GIS datasets and their workspaces, but video editing, photos, more variety of modern games etc will all do the same.

Now I also have a 1TB drive, so have some room to dedicate at least one drive to GIS working spaces, which will keep it off the others. Hate housekeeping though so I'm putting it off for now. Needs to be done before the 18th though

 

[Mow2345]

Hi guys! Finally got my new desktop and I couldn't be happier. So thanks again for everyone who helped me. Everything is fine except for one thing that worries me. I downloaded SpeedFan to know the temps of my components and I got these results :

GPU : 35C
System : 114C
CPU : 34C
Auxtin0 : 29C
Auxtin1 : 107C
Auxtin2 : 105C
Auxtin3 : 104C
HD1 : 31C
HD0 : 28C

I don't know what System and Auxtin are related to but they seem too high. Especially for a new desktop and I haven't even started playing with it. Someone please give me some advice. Please :/

 

[GuyNwah]

Sounds like misread sensors. You'd be in thermal shutdown if those temperatures were real. It's very hard to say exactly which sensors correspond to which line, because documentation of such things is either unavailable or atrocious, and even if you had the documentation, sensor calibration is almost never actually done.

Try HWMonitor for a comparison. You get it from the same folks who make CPU-Z, http://www.cpuid.com/

 

[Mow2345]

Thank you @GuyNwah

Here's the results using HWMonitor :

Motherboard :
TMPIN0 = 114C
TZ01 = 30C
CPU = 40C
TMPIN3 = 40C

Processor :
Core0 = 31C
Core1 = 33C
Core2 = 37C
Core3 = 36C
Package = 38C

HDD :
Assembly = 31C
Air Flow = 31C

SSD :
Air Flow = 29C

Graphic Card :
TMPIN0 : 34C

There's still that 114C that worries me. Everything else is cool I think, right ? Thanks again for your help.

 

[GuyNwah]

All motherboards have various anomalies in their sensor readouts. Asus H97 and Z97 boards seem to have a bogus reading on the TMPIN0 channel. Sometimes this is actually interference between ASUS Suite and another monitoring program; other times, it's because there's not a calibrated sensor on that channel. Ignore it unless you start seeing performance problems (particularly the CPU downclocking under load).

 

[Mow2345]

It doesn't even move at all, every other numbers change but this temp stays at 114C. The anomaly makes sense. Thank you very much as always. Iam relieved. You should be called The Wise Man instead of GuyNwah

 

[GuyNwah]

It doesn't even move at all, every other numbers change but this temp stays at 114C. The anomaly makes sense. Thank you very much as always. Iam relieved. You should be called The Wise Man instead of GuyNwah

"...one man is trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions. Guy Noir, private eye."

 

[sidspyker]

Yeah don't worry about that temperature it's BS, the system would shutdown if it really had reached even 105.

 

[Riven-Twain]

Well, I must say, this was the last place in the World I expected to run into Guy Noir! And, all this time, I thought your name was a reference to The Elder Scrolls.

"...one man is trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions. Guy Noir, private eye."

 

[EliHarel]

My computer is arriving this week, and since it's virtually my first desktop, I'm wondering about any maintenance tips you guys have - whether physical or digital (one specific thing I'm wondering about, and I don't know if it's naive or not, is if people buy anti-virus programs or just settle with whatever it is Windows 8.1 has?).

 

[Eruvadhor]

The default software, Windows Defender, works pretty well. There are third party applications that technically have higher detection rates, and it usually ends up as a point of debate. Microsoft has improved in this respect over the years. More critical would be just to keep software updated and not install shady software (like random freeware).

 

[Cyrex13]

I'm considering to buy a new gaming rig.. But lately my eye catch some cool ASUS ROG laptops! It's 17,3", 1920x1080 IPS AG LED, Intel Core i7 4720HQ, 2,60GHz (Core 4, Cache : 6MB, turbo : 3.6GHz), 24GB DDR3 1600 MHz (3x8GB, 4 slota), SSD 250GB Samsung EVO + HDD 1TB GB 5400rpm hybrid + 8GB SSD Cache, Free DOS, NVIDIA GeForce GTX970M 3GB GDDR5 with USB, HDMI, Thunderbolt connections... In my country it costs around 1850 dollars, so my question is would this laptop will be enough to play W3 on high FHD settings?

 

[GuyNwah]

The 970M is between the desktop 960 and 970. Well above the recommended spec, though short of what we've been believing is needed for full performance. You will get some satisfactory combination of frame rate and eye candy.

 

[Sardukhar]

My computer is arriving this week, and since it's virtually my first desktop, I'm wondering about any maintenance tips you guys have - whether physical or digital (one specific thing I'm wondering about, and I don't know if it's naive or not, is if people buy anti-virus programs or just settle with whatever it is Windows 8.1 has?).

I currently use Panda Free Antivirus. It seems to have less conflicts than AVG, Avast or Avira have had over the years, although all have worked well. I also use Glary Utilities to keep my registry and drive issues in-line. I keep my most load-intensive games on my SSDs and WIndows 8.1 on the SATA. Oh, I run Ivosoft Classic Start Menu as well, which is -quite- nice and fixes Windows 8 Start button crap. Make sure you have minimal programs starting up, which you can set by right-clicking on your taskbar, select Task Manager and then the Startup tab.

You should just be starting with your antivirals, your Start Menu addon if you run one and then only audio or video applications if you access those a lot. I also run Speedfan to customize my fan speeds for silence and currently MSI Afterburner so I can see how hot my GPUs are getting and when they stutter.