Camera Stutter Master Thread - Share your info
UPDATE: ACCORDING TO REPORTS IT HAS BEEN FIXED ON PC WITH 1.05 AND PS4 WITH 1.04. XBOX ONE WILL STILL HAVE TO WAIT A BIT FOR THE PATCH, UNFORTUNATELY
JUNE 5 2015
SHORT SUMMARY:
- When turning the camera (slowly) a lot of people see a stutter effect that is not present when turning the camera quickly - or if the camera is only moved vertically.
- This is not the "Horse Stutter", although it might exacerbate the horse stutter.
- This issue has been reported on ALL PLATFORMS.
- But the issue might not affect all players.
- The stuttering camera is most noticeable when slowly turning the camera MANUALLY.
- It's possible people might not notice it if they always turn the camera quickly.
- Even Mouse and Keyboard users are affected.
- It is (most likely) NOT a frame rate issue (or at least not a performance frame rate issue) as multiple PC testers have confirmed it still happens at a solid 60 FPS.
UPDATE: 2nd of June.
According to a released patch overview, the upcoming patches will "improve" the camera. I can only hope that means "fix" but is coached in plausible deniability terms.
PC patch 1.05 coming this week, consoles' 1.04 more than likely about 10 days away.
UPDATE: According to posts by Marcin Momot, RED Community manager, Console patch 1.04 (expected in 7 to 10 days from May 30th) will fix the camera stutter on PS4 and Xbox One, while 1.05 will fix it for PC (expected now during the week of June 1st to June 7th).
Momot specifically wrote:
"As far as the camera stutter for PS4 we have a fix coming for this in 1.04."
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...re-your-info?p=1726350&viewfull=1#post1726350
Then added:
"Yes, 1.05 for PC, 1.04 for consoles."
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...re-your-info?p=1726408&viewfull=1#post1726408
UPDATE: Marcin Momot, RED Community Manager tweeted on may 30th:
"We're hoping to address the stuttering issue in patch 1.04" [for consoles], answering to a question from an apparent Xbox One user.
https://twitter.com/Marcin360/status/604555451523559424
Since PC already is on 1.04 and expecting 1.05 on Monday, hopes are now high for 1.05 to bring an improvement to the camera for PC.
When asked when PS4 (and most likely Xbox One) users could expect 1.04 Momot tweeted:
"We're hoping it's a matter of a week, a week and a half or so."
https://twitter.com/Marcin360/status/604590067835908097
It's unclear if that is the date of release or the date of submitting it to Sony/Microsoft for certification (a process that can take up to 7 days itself). It might be people get it as early as the next weekend or just in two and a half weeks.
UPDATE:
Patch 1.03 for Xbox One might have cut the camera stutter in half. Apparently it now only happens when decelerating a turning camera, and slowly panning seems stable, see here:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/danwarb/video/2749197/embed
Patches 1.03 and 1.04 are out for PC and have NOT fixed the camera stutter issue.
Patch 1.03 is out for PS4 and has NOT fixed the camera stutter issue.
UPDATE:
The issue has been reported on twitter, steam, neogaf, Witcher forums, youtube and other places, starting mere hours after the midnight digital release on May 19th.
To date, there was only a single mention of "stuttering issues" in the press (and that is the whole quote) - not a single review mentioned it at all.
On Monday, May 25th, CD P RED officially acknowledged the issue, saying they are "investigating". No further information on progress has been made available.
ORIGINAL STORY
By now, a lot of people will be familiar with the camera stutter that happens when slowly turning the camera.
I know there are a lot of threads and videos about it popping up (of which I have collected a few below), and I also know that Projekt Red has not responded to or acknowledged the issue at all. Neither has it been mentioned in ANY reviews or news outlet reports.
So, instead of spreading this to many threads, maybe we can gather the info here in one, with
Platform: PS4
Version: 1.03
Medium: Digital Download UK PSN Store
Issue:
The camera stuttering happens most severly when slowly turning the camera manually in a horizontal direction.
It gets worse when adding a vertical angle, but is NOT present when just looking straight up or down.
Using Witcher sense also seems to make it worse at times.
The faster you turn the camera, the less it happens, but there usually is a short stutter when the camera motion starts.
It's also a lot less severe if the game takes control of the camera (riding or walking or swimming in a circle without moving the camera manually) and is almost imperceptible when you're auto-riding (holding canter/sprint button on horseback) and follow a turning road.
Most people that have reported it seem to be using a game-pad or controller on their platform, but mouse and keyboard users have reported it, too, albeit less noticeable due to mouse turning speed being quicker than a controller.
Many have tried different things (most of them obviously on PC), but the issue remains.
On my end, I tried doing a full re-download, tried it without the 1.01 patch (PS4), tried it with different Display settings, different Sensitivity Settings and different System settings.
I tried different screen resolution outputs from the PS4.
I tried different controllers (DS4, DS3 via Dongle, PS Vita via Remoteplay), nothing made a difference.
It's also present on the PS Vita screen during remote play.
Here are several videos:
PS4: v. 1.00 - 1.02
https://youtu.be/93nhRjhEo0I
https://youtu.be/ROndJlnoRTw
https://youtu.be/g8LAT_h34-w
https://youtu.be/8sGJLWO57Gc
https://youtu.be/8NSLCWKTnlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NSLCWKTnlA
PS4: v. 1.03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZrtXXeJb6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkvmQijlJlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmEqdWrECA
PC:
https://youtu.be/b5mgQyQlCA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40i92-eKA0w&hd=1
XBOX ONE:
http://gameclipscontent-d2006.xboxl..._=1432172622_57e29291324f5bbca8fba002c3a29448
And a few threads:
XBOX ONE:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/37542-XBOX-ONE-Camera-is-twitching-when-moving-pad-slowly
Multiple platforms:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/36828-Severe-camera-problems
UPDATE: ACCORDING TO REPORTS IT HAS BEEN FIXED ON PC WITH 1.05 AND PS4 WITH 1.04. XBOX ONE WILL STILL HAVE TO WAIT A BIT FOR THE PATCH, UNFORTUNATELY
JUNE 5 2015
SHORT SUMMARY:
- When turning the camera (slowly) a lot of people see a stutter effect that is not present when turning the camera quickly - or if the camera is only moved vertically.
- This is not the "Horse Stutter", although it might exacerbate the horse stutter.
- This issue has been reported on ALL PLATFORMS.
- But the issue might not affect all players.
- The stuttering camera is most noticeable when slowly turning the camera MANUALLY.
- It's possible people might not notice it if they always turn the camera quickly.
- Even Mouse and Keyboard users are affected.
- It is (most likely) NOT a frame rate issue (or at least not a performance frame rate issue) as multiple PC testers have confirmed it still happens at a solid 60 FPS.
UPDATE: 2nd of June.
According to a released patch overview, the upcoming patches will "improve" the camera. I can only hope that means "fix" but is coached in plausible deniability terms.
PC patch 1.05 coming this week, consoles' 1.04 more than likely about 10 days away.
UPDATE: According to posts by Marcin Momot, RED Community manager, Console patch 1.04 (expected in 7 to 10 days from May 30th) will fix the camera stutter on PS4 and Xbox One, while 1.05 will fix it for PC (expected now during the week of June 1st to June 7th).
Momot specifically wrote:
"As far as the camera stutter for PS4 we have a fix coming for this in 1.04."
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...re-your-info?p=1726350&viewfull=1#post1726350
Then added:
"Yes, 1.05 for PC, 1.04 for consoles."
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...re-your-info?p=1726408&viewfull=1#post1726408
UPDATE: Marcin Momot, RED Community Manager tweeted on may 30th:
"We're hoping to address the stuttering issue in patch 1.04" [for consoles], answering to a question from an apparent Xbox One user.
https://twitter.com/Marcin360/status/604555451523559424
Since PC already is on 1.04 and expecting 1.05 on Monday, hopes are now high for 1.05 to bring an improvement to the camera for PC.
When asked when PS4 (and most likely Xbox One) users could expect 1.04 Momot tweeted:
"We're hoping it's a matter of a week, a week and a half or so."
https://twitter.com/Marcin360/status/604590067835908097
It's unclear if that is the date of release or the date of submitting it to Sony/Microsoft for certification (a process that can take up to 7 days itself). It might be people get it as early as the next weekend or just in two and a half weeks.
UPDATE:
Patch 1.03 for Xbox One might have cut the camera stutter in half. Apparently it now only happens when decelerating a turning camera, and slowly panning seems stable, see here:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/danwarb/video/2749197/embed
Patches 1.03 and 1.04 are out for PC and have NOT fixed the camera stutter issue.
Patch 1.03 is out for PS4 and has NOT fixed the camera stutter issue.
UPDATE:
The issue has been reported on twitter, steam, neogaf, Witcher forums, youtube and other places, starting mere hours after the midnight digital release on May 19th.
To date, there was only a single mention of "stuttering issues" in the press (and that is the whole quote) - not a single review mentioned it at all.
On Monday, May 25th, CD P RED officially acknowledged the issue, saying they are "investigating". No further information on progress has been made available.
ORIGINAL STORY
By now, a lot of people will be familiar with the camera stutter that happens when slowly turning the camera.
I know there are a lot of threads and videos about it popping up (of which I have collected a few below), and I also know that Projekt Red has not responded to or acknowledged the issue at all. Neither has it been mentioned in ANY reviews or news outlet reports.
So, instead of spreading this to many threads, maybe we can gather the info here in one, with
Platform: PS4
Version: 1.03
Medium: Digital Download UK PSN Store
Issue:
The camera stuttering happens most severly when slowly turning the camera manually in a horizontal direction.
It gets worse when adding a vertical angle, but is NOT present when just looking straight up or down.
Using Witcher sense also seems to make it worse at times.
The faster you turn the camera, the less it happens, but there usually is a short stutter when the camera motion starts.
It's also a lot less severe if the game takes control of the camera (riding or walking or swimming in a circle without moving the camera manually) and is almost imperceptible when you're auto-riding (holding canter/sprint button on horseback) and follow a turning road.
Most people that have reported it seem to be using a game-pad or controller on their platform, but mouse and keyboard users have reported it, too, albeit less noticeable due to mouse turning speed being quicker than a controller.
Many have tried different things (most of them obviously on PC), but the issue remains.
On my end, I tried doing a full re-download, tried it without the 1.01 patch (PS4), tried it with different Display settings, different Sensitivity Settings and different System settings.
I tried different screen resolution outputs from the PS4.
I tried different controllers (DS4, DS3 via Dongle, PS Vita via Remoteplay), nothing made a difference.
It's also present on the PS Vita screen during remote play.
Here are several videos:
PS4: v. 1.00 - 1.02
https://youtu.be/93nhRjhEo0I
https://youtu.be/ROndJlnoRTw
https://youtu.be/g8LAT_h34-w
https://youtu.be/8sGJLWO57Gc
https://youtu.be/8NSLCWKTnlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NSLCWKTnlA
PS4: v. 1.03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZrtXXeJb6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkvmQijlJlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmEqdWrECA
PC:
https://youtu.be/b5mgQyQlCA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40i92-eKA0w&hd=1
XBOX ONE:
http://gameclipscontent-d2006.xboxl..._=1432172622_57e29291324f5bbca8fba002c3a29448
And a few threads:
XBOX ONE:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/37542-XBOX-ONE-Camera-is-twitching-when-moving-pad-slowly
Multiple platforms:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/36828-Severe-camera-problems
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