Now THAT os what I call nitpicking.
Hahahahahahahah. I see you're being sarcastic tough, thanks for the laugh man.
Hahahahahahahah. I see you're being sarcastic tough, thanks for the laugh man.
...and again: It's the fault of the marketing. CDPR gave people the impression this would be a non-defined main character RPG like Skyrim, all that really appeared to be fixed was their name: V.
Well, wrong. V is their own character pretty much from the start... not to the level of, say, Geralt, but enough so that actual roleplaying would, of course, be limited.
EDIT: Not to mention that the rest of the game's narrative and gameplay even further locks in V's character into place, through the absence of any meaningful choices or consequences...
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This is going off topic quite fast, but oh well.
I would argue that even Skyrim is not free from being main-character centered rpg. True, the game did not give you a name to roll with, but you are a dragonborn and shit gets only done when the Dragonborn steps in. People remember you as one, call you one and rarely really care what all else you have done. You are Dragonborn.
But yes, marketing was really over its head, you are right.
Still, my point is that what rpg videogame people refer to when they compare CP2077 and its rpg elements? Only game I can think of that has almost complete freedom over your character and its decisions is Sims.
True rpg experience can only be found from tabletop rpgs and those elements are, so far, quite impossible to fully implement into a videogame.
It is not possible to roleplay this game as a hard core non-smoker. Whether V wants it or not, Johnny is a smoker, so V is a smoker. Johnny obviously smokes in V's apartment, if V doesn't. There is a used ashtray right there on the desk.
Yes, on rails. Many "RPG games" seem to do this, some of them almost to the point of being not much more than travel between long cut scenes. However, pertinent to this thread, Johnny prevents total freedom over the character. Some of the actions of the main character are out of the control of the player, conciously or unconciously. Johnny is an influencer and V is totally helpless against that. Working with that is part of how this game has to be role played.
Though it is an insignificant request. I know how you feel. I roleplay my V as Straight-edge. It's actually pretty cool that dum dum mentions this when you refuse his drugs lol.
Even though i have no problem with the scene, it can ruin your character for you and thats all that matters.
I originally played V as a straight up lass as much as i could, never drank and never smoked, even after the incident with the chip she never turned to anything but herself to deal with it all, then when she meet judy she started falling for someone an helped them best she could, even refused to be responsible for her taking up smoking again but alas it wasnt her choice so she passed them over, then they got close and well the inevitable happens.
Now you need to realise that before that scene V had made there thoughts on smoking very clear, she thought it was disgusting, made ppl stinking and was for posers ontop of possibly thinking if she gave in she was giving more of herself away to the demon in her head Johnny.
Ppl say it doesn't matter but to the player in control of his/her character it matters alot, much like how in Assassins Creed: Odyssey yoy can play your Kassandra as gay but then the game forces a hetero relationship and a baby on you forcing V into the simple act of smoking without player input can ultimately kill that character for the player.
When i first seen the scene my first thought was "fuck johnny took over", i mean thats no a very good thought now is it.
It might seem petty to some, and giving the host of other problems i'd consider it low tier, but it most definitely is a problem, potentially big, for alot of ppl
I originally played V as a straight up lass as much as i could, never drank and never smoked, even after the incident with the chip she never turned to anything but herself to deal with it all, then when she meet judy she started falling for someone an helped them best she could, even refused to be responsible for her taking up smoking again but alas it wasnt her choice so she passed them over, then they got close and well the inevitable happens.
Now you need to realise that before that scene V had made there thoughts on smoking very clear, she thought it was disgusting, made ppl stinking and was for posers ontop of possibly thinking if she gave in she was giving more of herself away to the demon in her head Johnny.
Ppl say it doesn't matter but to the player in control of his/her character it matters alot, much like how in Assassins Creed: Odyssey yoy can play your Kassandra as gay but then the game forces a hetero relationship and a baby on you forcing V into the simple act of smoking without player input can ultimately kill that character for the player.
When i first seen the scene my first thought was "fuck johnny took over", i mean thats no a very good thought now is it.
It might seem petty to some, and giving the host of other problems i'd consider it low tier, but it most definitely is a problem, potentially big, for alot of ppl
Given current socio-political climate in Night City, NCPD would like to point out that even a forced rare smoke is trivial in comparison to daily threats present in areas of the city, some consumer goods and lifestyle choices.
so you saying smoking is bad, but you have no problems blasting heads off, decapitating legs and arms, murder, vandalism, destroying property, stealing stuff ?
It's fine that you dislike smoking so intensely that you'd skip a major cut scene - that's up to you. It feels strange that you would then make a forum thread just to highlight that you don't like it.
There is little functional difference between this and someone demanding a non swearing or vegan version of the game. I'd personally prefer the developer effort was spent on more meaningful gameplay changes and new content that everyone will benefit from than cutting trivial things because of a strong opinion voiced by a single user.
There is little functional difference between this and someone demanding a non swearing or vegan version of the game. I'd personally prefer the developer effort was spent on more meaningful gameplay changes and new content that everyone will benefit from than cutting trivial things because of a strong opinion voiced by a single user.
If there is smoke pouring out of your monitor ----- RUN.
Why not also suggest alcohol, drugs or are they alright in the real world or is it more a matter of what one will tolerate when one chooses to indulge?
The oddest one in real life is those who sit with their foot on a gas pedal in a traffic queue and believe no one is been harmed by it because they are seemingly purifying the air.
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V breaths in the polluted air of Nightcity every day, has various enchantments, including lungs and has Johnny's years of smoking experience. V coughing or not is trivial. Imo. Or her forced smoking also. I mean really, 1 smoke for a piece of Judy. Not a bad deal and something many ppl are willing to make. At least I would, tho I'm a smoker myself so..
Yes. Which requestion the need for a character creator in the first place ?
The answer to all those questions is always the same: It was in the marketing...
