I think it could have also be condensed into more chaotic responses or actual evil V. Which is missing.
so it's CyberCut2077 or CyberJudy2077? that's the dilemma :/
Yes. It's the same idea. However, since Shadowrun takes a more metaphysical approach to it, the logical arguments that are cropping up in this thread about Humanity don't apply to Essence. (Mages and Shaman's NEVER get chromed if they can help it. Each drop in Essence reduces their magical ability. But sometimes bad shit happens, the Mage/Shaman gets critically wounded, and has to get implants to function. There is an actual character archetype for this called the "Burned out Mage".)Is humanity the equivalent of the essence from shadowrun which determine how much of your body is left naturally to be able to use magic?
For fuck sakes! One cant even think without hurting sensibilities.I've read it was cut because it was deemed offensive to people that need prosthetics IRL, ie. it doesn't make them any less human. I think that mecanic was removed in the newest edition of the TTRPG, too. Also, once you go into cyberpsychosis it's game over, so no point in including that system I guess.
Nothing more cyber than boning in a mech. PreemCyberPanam2077, who cares about Judy lol, we simping Panam.
Or more like NonCyberPanam2077 because she has no visible cyberware? :Thonking:
I thought they said their would be consequences for having too much cyberware? I have every slot filled lol
Hell witcher 3 had some of that stuff.Yep, just like the NPCs were supposed to have a life, the cops were supposed to be individuals who could possibly be bribed, different dialogue options were supposed to change the outcome of quests and the overall story. Oblivion did all of those things 15 years ago but somehow they can't pull it off today.
Hell witcher 3 had some of that stuff.
LOL i just saw this one reddit, what a broken ass game.. Seems like the radio DJs in the car are voiced by V.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kxp4p6
Common CP2020 house rule was that if player lost limb or whatnot in accident/fight or so, replacing it with cyber one would not have a high humanity cost (or any at all). For 2077 this could just been added to the world lore and everyone would be OK with it.For fuck sakes! One cant even think without hurting sensibilities.
What has to do a prostatic leg with a frontal cortex reflexes enhancer? I can miss a leg and also understand that if you remove 99% of your body for chrome, you are more machine than human...
Jeez, what a fucking world...
Is humanity the equivalent of the essence from shadowrun wich determine how much of your body is left naturally to be able to use magic?
Common CP2020 house rule was that if player lost limb or whatnot in accident/fight or so, replacing it with cyber one would not have a high humanity cost (or any at all). For 2077 this could just been added to the world lore and everyone would be OK with it.
We counted all of the metal, after all it still is replacing meat. Think about how people with prosthetics can have emotional problems even today. If you don't want to go down the cyberpsychosis hole, get a replacement arm covered in RealSkin and don't add blades, monowire, and a machinegun to it!
There was a post earlier in this thread about how we can't have nice things because it insults someone. Well, maybe it wouldn't had to be so if there weren't people who first mix science with magic and then start projecting that magical garbage IRL.
"Emotional problem". People with or without prosthetics can go through periods of depression, like any other people, for same reasons as any other people. Depression then, it has nothing to do with anyone's humanity. There's no system in the western world at least, that somehow measures depressed people, having somehow less humanity, than any other people.
Even if person scores high, lets say ADHD on DMS/ICD, still a human. Cyberpunk 2077 way, is actually the high route.
These examples about "humanity cost" describes symptoms people on autism spectra may have, having side effects from medication (not necessarily even for psychiatric purposes) and these "emotional problems".
Essentially if you drop below 1 Essence, your dancing with death. Magic heal spells will almost never work on you (unless the caster is extremely skilled), and even normal healing takes a hit. Dropping to 0 Essence means your dead, so technically your character can exist at 0.1 Essence. But I sure wouldn't want to play a character at that level. The first time you got messed up in a firefight would be your last.It was not only about magic, even in Shadowrun 0 Essence would mean cyberzobie od death as far as i remember.
No, you are trying weasel your way around associating real life symptoms with what is "humanity cost".You're right, getting your legs blown off on a battlefield or having an arm ripped off by machinery would not contribute to emotional or psychological issues at all. None at all. Back to sunshine and puppy dogs right away.
I never said only people with prosthetics would have depression or problems. What I said was that getting a piece of your body removed and replacing it with a mechanical appendage would likely lead to emotional issues, which could be part of the basis for how cyberpsychosis manifests. Which is basically what Pondsmith said in the pen & paper RPG. All of this is in the context of a GAME, not real life.
Lighten up, Francis.